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What % of autism would you guess you are?
100% - Never was alive just was a concept. 20%  20%  [ 6 ]
50% - Different and aware of differences. 67%  67%  [ 20 ]
1% - Total Bliss Unaware of Autism. 13%  13%  [ 4 ]
0% - You do not have autism. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 30

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29 Jan 2011, 7:31 am

Enough to make me stand out, here on WP but not enough to keep me from living an independent and productive life. Why do you ask? This is confusing.


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29 Jan 2011, 7:37 am

I must also add that we're a very unique breed of autistic that enjoys posting and socializing on a forum.


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29 Jan 2011, 7:40 am

Seems a very Zen question.

"Be" the ball".

"BE the autistic?"


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29 Jan 2011, 10:11 am

good question!! ! humm don't know about the video lol

I'm trying to think what part isn't encapsulated in it...thought about origin...naa probably in play at cell split..humm

Actually not much of my carbon footprint is excluded, it is in all of me, at atom level processing sensory and everything from genetic to tennis shoes to thoughts



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29 Jan 2011, 1:32 pm

ci wrote:
Not everyone with autism looks like (behaves) like people without autism. In fact the more autism there is the more the cup is full compared to the glass of whatever you have and have not filled or drank from.

You're twisting the meaning of my example. The lemonade (I'm assuming Sprite or something similar here) is colourless just like water and looks the same, but tastes completely different. Similarly, somebody with autism looks the same as someone without it, but thinks and acts differently.



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29 Jan 2011, 1:40 pm

Mr. Crinky,

That's not true all the time. Looks are an external appearance. It depends on the severity but yes autism can even show in a still photo. But the question to is philosophical for those high functioning and who can ponder this question.


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29 Jan 2011, 1:42 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
I must also add that we're a very unique breed of autistic that enjoys posting and socializing on a forum.


Unlike a % of people with autism we are aware we are of autism. However if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to see it fall does it make a sounds. These are some crazy hippie questions and I'm about to call in a redneck for some balance.

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29 Jan 2011, 1:45 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
Seems a very Zen question.

"Be" the ball".

"BE the autistic?"


Be you.

Be green.

Be organic.

Dude!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-7lUZPJjGw[/youtube]


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29 Jan 2011, 1:51 pm

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What about a heap of sand, from which grains are individually removed. Is it still a heap when only one grain remains? If not, when did it change from a heap to a non-heap?

Isn't then one grain of sand a "heap" of atoms?

How many atoms removed is a non-heap?

It's all a spectral illusion.


Will someone please explain what this person just said. What does autism have to do with light or color?


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29 Jan 2011, 3:02 pm

I accept the label for the same reason I accept any label. I want to be able to:

1. Refer to the qualities that separate me from NTs in one convenient word
2. Find others like me
3. Discuss with them the qualities we have in common
4. Find information about people like me
5. Communicate useful information to others like me

I'm all for us deciding to ignore the DSM, ignore psychiatry and call ourselves dandelions. But since no one else is, there is no information about us under the name "dandelion" and I cannot call myself a dandelion without being misunderstood. Others like me do not identify as dandelions. So I use the words they use.


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29 Jan 2011, 3:14 pm

Yes this is part of the adaptation framework. Also the high functioning that have social desire have social needs to fit in. I'm here more strictly for adaption needs and find it a distraction. Bottom line to me is people can believe anything they want but some ill constructive adaptive behavior is affecting those that do not understand, do not want to understand and have no relevent social needs \ desire. My some 800 posts here have been to influence you online folks whether or not you like flowers, snakes or autism philosophy.

This post is a key post and I will explain in some days what the intents were and what the statements mean.

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29 Jan 2011, 3:16 pm

Sorry. I'm just completely lost. I have no clue what the OP is trying to say or ask.


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29 Jan 2011, 3:17 pm

What is autism to you in day to day life as a concept and then who you are as a person.


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29 Jan 2011, 3:47 pm

A constructive adaptive behavior considered constructive for one may not be constructive for another, and may indeed have direct negative or positive consequences for others, intended or not intended.

But, who is to say that a constructive adaptive behavior is not necessary or ill-advised for the person that initiated it.

Who would suffer more if the adaptive behavior in question was eliminated? Can we measure this?

Are the "ill" advised constructive adaptative behaviors in question part of a game, intended or not?



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29 Jan 2011, 4:01 pm

ci wrote:
What is autism to you in day to day life as a concept and then who you are as a person.


Okay I get it. Perhaps my AS "literal thinking" is coming to play here. Autism isn't a concept to me. It's a reality. While I can think of several different analogies that might help others who don't have it understand it, none of the analogies you've posted make any sense at all to me.

Probably just a matter of perspective. I'm definitely not saying the analogies don't work. They just don't work for me.

I can only be literal when describing in in relation to myself, and that would practically amount to a book. Way too long for a forum.


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29 Jan 2011, 4:43 pm

As a concept in day-to-day life it's the thing that unites us. ("Us" here including only those of us who are actually on the spectrum. I do NOT include parents, friends or relatives. Some people like to define the "autism community" as parents united by their hatred of their children, but I don't.)

Who am I as a person? Too hard to sum up. I am DandelionFireworks.


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