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02 Feb 2011, 1:06 am

I like the multicoloured infinity symbol.


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02 Feb 2011, 1:14 am

Either you forgot to have the infinity symbol go through the Moebius strip, or that symbol is not an impossible figure. :P I could easily recreate that with two rubber bands and a pen.

EDIT: Yep, I just did it and it looks exactly like it. :lol:



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02 Feb 2011, 1:29 am

dunbots wrote:
Either you forgot to have the infinity symbol go through the Moebius strip, or that symbol is not an impossible figure. :P I could easily recreate that with two rubber bands and a pen.

EDIT: Yep, I just did it and it looks exactly like it. :lol:


The bar does not pass through the infinity symbol correctly - it simply goes behind it. There is an error on the Mobius strip as well, the edge does not flow correctly. I need to work it out now that I have the basic idea.

edit: If the mobius strip is inflexible, it cannot both pass behind the bar and in front of the infinity symbol. But since a mobius strip is usually seen as a ribbon, this is not a very good illusion.


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02 Feb 2011, 1:40 am

I assumed it was cloth or paper, which means it's not an impossible figure.


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02 Feb 2011, 1:42 am

I took it as inflexible.

But yeah, I see what y'all mean.



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02 Feb 2011, 1:49 am

wavefreak58 wrote:
The bar does not pass through the infinity symbol correctly - it simply goes behind it. There is an error on the Mobius strip as well, the edge does not flow correctly. I need to work it out now that I have the basic idea.

edit: If the mobius strip is inflexible, it cannot both pass behind the bar and in front of the infinity symbol. But since a mobius strip is usually seen as a ribbon, this is not a very good illusion.


Well first off I didn't know there were correct and incorrect ways for the rod to pass through it, and since a Moebius strip is made out of paper (or ribbon I guess as you said) I didn't even think that it would be inflexible. :P I understand what you mean though, if one assumes that the figures aren't flexible.



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02 Feb 2011, 3:33 am

It's a good start.

Make the moebius strip shiny and give it thickness in the final version, and that should give the impression that it's inflexible metal.



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02 Feb 2011, 10:35 am

How about for a catch phrase "Active, Aware, Able, Autistic" placed in the four corners around the symbol?


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02 Feb 2011, 7:50 pm

I actually have a möbius strip out of wood hanging in my kitchen. Hanging from it is a 3d representation of a Klein bottle. So I've definitely seen inflexible möbius strips.


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02 Feb 2011, 9:34 pm

anbuend wrote:
I actually have a möbius strip out of wood hanging in my kitchen. Hanging from it is a 3d representation of a Klein bottle. So I've definitely seen inflexible möbius strips.


I used to make Klein bottles out of silly putty and stuff. They're cool.


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03 Feb 2011, 1:12 pm

For a tattoo, I'd probably just get lettering done "AUTISM". Simple and unmistakable. The puzzle piece is universally recognized as Autism, but the rainbow and the ribbon are "borrowed" from other causes. The rainbow is universally a Gay rights symbol, and the ribbon is universally known as cancer awareness. I like the uniqueness of the puzzle piece as not easy to misconstrue, but if someone doesn't care for the puzzle piece, then certainly a tattoo of it would be a mistake.

I do have an autism tattoo on my left shoulder: It's a scene with two of my special interests, done up like a jigsaw puzzle with one piece out.

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03 Feb 2011, 1:18 pm

Very interesting idea. Thanks for sharing :)



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03 Feb 2011, 1:19 pm

kx250rider wrote:
For a tattoo, I'd probably just get lettering done "AUTISM". Simple and unmistakable. The puzzle piece is universally recognized as Autism, but the rainbow and the ribbon are "borrowed" from other causes. The rainbow is universally a Gay rights symbol, and the ribbon is universally known as cancer awareness. I like the uniqueness of the puzzle piece as not easy to misconstrue, but if someone doesn't care for the puzzle piece, then certainly a tattoo of it would be a mistake.

I do have an autism tattoo on my left shoulder: It's a scene with two of my special interests, done up like a jigsaw puzzle with one piece out.

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The puzzle piece seems to have a split perception. Some on the spectrum are offended ("I AM NOT A PUZZLE"). Some think it fits well. I sort of like it. I hae always been an enigma wrapped in a riddle inside a conundrum and the puzzle piece fits well. Sort of saying "figure me out if you dare ..."

I don't like the ribbon thing. It sooooo cliche nowadays. I like the rainbow since autism is a spectrum. I'm thinking a mobius band made of rainbow puzzle pieces would work.


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06 Feb 2011, 2:58 pm

Waddya think?

[img][800:638]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e378/x_wavefreak_x/AutismSymbol3.jpg[/img]


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06 Feb 2011, 4:07 pm

I do like it.



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06 Feb 2011, 9:14 pm

Just be aware the person (I know her) who originated the mobius symbol really hated the puzzle symbol and used the mobius as an alternative to that, not something to be made into a new form of it. Also, she didn't borrow the rainbow from gay rights, but from the idea of "spectrum".

The main reason I personally don't like the puzzle symbol is because it makes it seem as if autism is just inherently puzzling, when it's no more puzzling than any other part of human nature. If autism can be represented by a puzzle symbol then every other kind of neurology ought to be as well. The only reason it is made into a puzzle symbol has to do with a long-standing tradition of us being described as inherently mysterious and hard to understand. When to ourselves, we're not. Nonautistic people seem just as mysterious to most autistic people, but because they're the norm, then they're not "inherently mysterious". It reads like an imbalance to me and I don't like it. Like nonautistic people think they don't understand us because of something innate to us, while we don't understand them because of something innate to us. Rather than being, we don't understand each other, because we're different from each other, and it goes both ways. So the puzzle thing has always occurred to me as a very one-way sort of understanding of us. (Then again I've studied the history of perception of autism more than almost anyone I know, and this idea of us as inherently mysterious goes all the way back to the psychoanalytic days, and explains many people's voyeurism towards us. There are very few other conditions seen as so mysterious, and that bothers me, because it's not like we understand those any better than we understand autism. The "mysterious" thing strikes me as a mirage, or a glamour (in the old magical sense of the word).)

But if you are going to use it, is there any chance you could tone down the primary colors a bit? I can't look at it without my eyes jumping away. I mean you can leave it alone if you want, I'm not trying to force you to change any of this, just giving my reactions.


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