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Do any of you notice a troll lying around somewhere. I think I just saw one in front of me. It had spiked green hair.

I am still reading your responses. Mind virus is the philosophy of calling myself the word autism (autistic) it irritates me. But the topic differs from the statement and the music video similarity. Autism as a disability is not a mind virus in the initial context.

You should watch the music video and image what it is like being called autism in how the singer sings.

Sorry. I tried to compose an answer but I found my political interests, peer pressures and honest inability to depersonalize the statements made it impossible for me to share. Gosh darnit.

I think that statement needs more pot.

How about you explain in honesty the following.

1. Political interest of yourself and autism.

2. Autism in context to peer pressure and you.

3. Depersonalize is not easily done. You can add to this if you want.

Share anything you want.

Well, you can't define yourself solely by autism. That's ridiculous--autistics are so diverse that just saying "I'm autistic" gives only a vague picture of what some of your traits might be. There is so much more to you than that.

But I prefer to call myself "autistic" rather than "a person with autism" simply because I think there is no shame in being autistic, and I don't feel that autism is something I need to distance myself from. It's part of me. When I say I'm "a woman", I'm not saying that I define myself entirely by being female--that everything about me is because I'm female. When I say I'm "an engineer", I'm not saying that I'm nothing but an engineer. Why should "I'm autistic" be any different? Since there's no shame in autism, and no need to distance myself from it, and no implication that autism defines who I am, I really prefer to avoid the awkward grammar in person-first language. Since autism isn't shameful, there's no reason to think that being identified with it is an insult.

It comes from Autism Speaks, whose business model goes:

1. Make autism sound awful.
2. Convince people to use their money for "cure" or "prevention" research.
3. Be there to take the ready money.
4. Don't let any pesky self-respecting autistics interfere.

I am a registered Democrat but a dedicated Moderate. I believe in gun rights with realistic restrictions, a separation of Church and State, I support the US Constitution as a living document and have read the Federalist, and believe in education and health care as human rights. I also think taxes are a good thing.

I don't know what Autism's political interests are.



My peers have never pressured me to have autism. Try pot and drink beer... but never to have autism. That must be a new thing kids are doing these days.



Depersonalizing is a specialty of aspies and auties. We can remove ourselves from a situation in order to analyze it to fine detail for greater understanding. It might not be easy for you to do, though. How does that make you feel?



I need to have a root canal or the back molar extracted. I'm really not looking forward to this at all. I mean, I feel better after it's done but just the anticipation of going to the dentist. I don't like that. I should've taken care of this long ago when the filling fell out. This is what happens when you put stuff off.

Uhh... sorry? I am pretty green. As in naive. If I am ineffective at 'depersonalizing' it is not because I am stoned.

It's kind of a vague statement... the sort of thing you might say while you were on pot. In other words: Needs more explanation.

Depersonalizing is a specialty of aspies and auties. We can remove ourselves from a situation in order to analyze it to fine detail for greater understanding. It might not be easy for you to do, though. How does that make you feel?


I don't get into the whole aspie thing as that is calling myself a label as well as it is derived and representing the label. I find person with autism over autistic the same sort of thing. I don't view autism in my life on a day to day basis to explain my behavior. I avoid this practice. This differs from online people least sometimes or many times and many people with autism in person I know do not talk about autism. I am wondering about why people do this beyond simply a social need to fit in and desire to socialize.

We talk about autism because we find it interesting. It does explain a lot about us, and helps us to solve problems that we face because of the disconnect between our brain wiring and the way the world works. I don't think that we really use autism to "explain our behavior" so much as to explain our differences in thinking, to find reasons for why we feel or experience or learn things the way we do. I think we all know that we act on our different (autistic-style) perceptions and cognition by making our own, free-willed decisions, and that everyone responds in his own way. Rejecting our differences would be counterproductive because those differences are a significant part of our lives.

Don't dismiss the idea of "desire to socialize" as inconsequential. Discussing similarities is one of the easiest ways to tie a social group together. Discussing autism is probably part of what created the online autistic community.

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This seems like a lot of word parsing.

Aspie MEANS something. Autistic MEANS something. We must have labels or there is no communication. Rejecting a word because it is a label only leaves a void to be filled with another word.

If aspie as a label does not communicate what you are thinking, then you need to come up with something that does. But it will still be words and words are nothing more than labels.

Yeah... we can't very well use telepathy...

That's why I use such precise language. The more precise, the better to get across an idea that is as close to what I am thinking as possible.

The need to talk about autism has a reason. Offline people with autism here in adaptive programs where I live have their needs met including socialization so there is a different focus in origination perhaps. Yet people here at times or more often then not and who have autism lead a inclusive life yet still come to autism groups online. Is there a goal for this? Does it come to fitting in with others of similarities and functioning in the world by means of this social adaptation?

I agree with your opinion on labels. Henceforth I have decided to only articulate my opinions through interpretative dance!