Judgement day! (a new study shows autistic adults judge)

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02 Feb 2011, 4:08 pm

I am guilty of being judgmental of others. That's why I "can't take a joke" - I take negative remarks at face value even if the other person was just playing around with me.



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02 Feb 2011, 4:36 pm

I was about to say I did not think I was judgemental at all until I seen this:

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In one example, someone intended to put sugar in a friend's coffee, but it turned out to be poison. In another, two friends are kayaking in jellyfish-infested ocean waters. One friend had just read that the jellyfish were harmless and suggested they go for a swim. But then the other was stung and died.


All I feel when reading an example like that is a bunch of bad emotions and horror so I think I would answer more judgementally. However, I put more emphasis in practice on people's intentions if I understand them.



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02 Feb 2011, 4:43 pm

I'm trying to find the original publication this article refers to. It says "The findings are reported in the Jan. 31 online issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences," but I went to the page for that journal, and it didn't have an issue for that date, and I couldn't find it by searching for the author either.



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02 Feb 2011, 5:00 pm

I am either surprised by someone's actions ( I tend to categorize or see someone's behavioral patterns in order to "see" and understand them better in order to relate to them) when they do something unusual, or I have predicted they might behave that way even when it isn't obvious that they would ( I call that perception.) I don't think I am judgmental as much as taking in information in order to react and adapt to them. So I think I am in the prediction and probability business more than actually reading somebody's mind, which I don't think I do, except maybe when I know them well enough to where things are more give and take.



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02 Feb 2011, 6:57 pm

Yeah very very judgmental. Self confessed b*****d right here.

Example: My mum got her laptop back from being repaired and I went on a long rant about taking better care of it. Turning it off over night and not eating near it because food got in the keys.

The next day she drops it and the screen cracks and the screen shows a distorted image that looks like a mountain pass with the northern lights. Basically, it's screwed.

I had one of my 'if you only listened to me' speeches.

I'm about to band the use of Facebook applications on my computer because one time I got an error screen after my mum used my computer. I rule my computer with an iron fist!

I wouldn't be harsh about the poison. I would be about the swimming because I'd probably warn against all the dangers in the ocean. And if you knew there were jelly fish in there you get what you deserve. Oh, I can see the point of the article now.


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02 Feb 2011, 6:58 pm

Here you guys go.

The source code to the article. :)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21282628



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02 Feb 2011, 7:13 pm

I'm probably more judgmental than I should be. I really don't know how much of that is due to an impaired theory of mind. Some of it is because a lot of people treated me very badly when I was growing up, and I developed a rather cynical attitude towards people. I don't think that my experiences are uncommon. I wonder if the researchers considered that effect.


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03 Feb 2011, 9:39 pm

I am generally really forgiving. i have trouble seeing the bad in people. it's only when I realize that someone could have a negative influence on me that I become very wary. I don't think I am capable of making generalizations in a judging way, though. I don't see people in black and white, as good or bad, I see them as a set of different traits that make one whole unique being.


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03 Feb 2011, 11:47 pm

I don't think I'm judgmental, but my dad says I am.

I don't understand the article. The kind of questions that come to mind for me are - where did the friend get the poison, and what made him think that it was sugar? Was he carrying poison around with him, or what? What book was he reading that told him the jellyfish were harmless (since obviously it was wrong)? Was it a reliable source of information, so that it is understandable that he believed it? Why on earth would a reliable source of information say something that was completely wrong on such an important point? And so on.

My first instinct was that anyone stupid enough to carry poison around with them and then forget it was poison and put it in someone's tea deserved some judgment, but it would depend on how much they knew; if a butler had put white granules of poison in the sugar bowl, then it wasn't really the friend's fault. There just isn't enough detail.



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04 Feb 2011, 1:36 am

In general I'm very forgiving and do give weight to good intentions, but those who choose to do something stupid, in the full knowledge that what they are doing is stupid, get harsher judgment. For example, when I was a very young child there was news on the TV about a huge flood in Bangladesh which had made thousands of people homeless. I also knew that the country was regularly flooded, and I remember thinking, "Well DUH! If they were stupid enough to build their house somewhere which floods often, then of course their house will be destroyed. BIG DEAL." Of course, I didn't know then that the people were forced to live there. If I had I would have been more sympathetic.



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04 Feb 2011, 1:58 am

I rarely judge anyone, because I'm always aware that I don't understand their intentions easily. Not judging can be a bad thing sometimes, though, because if someone does something I don't like I can't figure out how to feel about it because I'm unable to consider their meaning behind their actions... and I don't like making a decision without knowing details first.



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04 Feb 2011, 2:05 am

PangeLingua wrote:
I don't think I'm judgmental, but my dad says I am.

I don't understand the article. The kind of questions that come to mind for me are - where did the friend get the poison, and what made him think that it was sugar? Was he carrying poison around with him, or what? What book was he reading that told him the jellyfish were harmless (since obviously it was wrong)? Was it a reliable source of information, so that it is understandable that he believed it? Why on earth would a reliable source of information say something that was completely wrong on such an important point? And so on.

My first instinct was that anyone stupid enough to carry poison around with them and then forget it was poison and put it in someone's tea deserved some judgment, but it would depend on how much they knew; if a butler had put white granules of poison in the sugar bowl, then it wasn't really the friend's fault. There just isn't enough detail.



I was thinking someone poured poison in the sugar and the other person didn't know it when he poured it in the tea. The other one, just ignorance. If the person knew a lot about jellyfish, he would know his friend was wrong. As for the person telling him that, maybe he was told that information too and he believed that person.


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