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03 Mar 2011, 9:15 am

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Yeah, I checked it too, and it's borked

Try this one http://www.web-us.com/brain/braindominance.htm

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You responded as a right brained person to 14 questions, and you responded as a left brained person to 4questions.

That makes more sense to me.

It wouldn't give me a score - just said "please answer all questions before scoring" - but I had done.

There's just 18 questions, right?

It did that to me. I just clicked them each one more time and it worked. I guess something hadn't registered.

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03 Mar 2011, 9:15 am

Well, I'm left-handed.

But most things people think about being "left brained" vs. "right brained" are more sort of pop psychology things than actual neurology. There are differences, but they're not between being "artistic" and "scientific", or anything like that. And not everyone has their brain lateralized in the same way. Some people have their hemispheres the reverse of normal. And some people have different combinations of skills lateralized in unusual ways. (Often this doesn't become apparent until the person has a stroke or brain surgery or something. People who don't have serious neurological issues use both sides of their brain. Oh and some of what used to be thought of as how brain lateralization worked was from someone's misinterpretation of what they saw happening in people with brain damage, too.)

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03 Mar 2011, 9:18 am

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But most things people think about being "left brained" vs. "right brained" are more sort of pop psychology things than actual neurology.

I think most people don't think of it as an actual neurological thing so much as a personality type. Or I could be projecting.

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03 Mar 2011, 9:22 am

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My thoughts seem to be purely conceptual too, unless I'm deliberately putting them into words. I suspect that most people think like this, in spite of the common belief that we mostly think in words or pictures. Main evidence for that? Most of us have had thoughts that we can't easily put into words. That couldn't happen if we thought purely in words. The moment you have an idea that you can't immediately express, you can see the pure, conceptual thought. What do see, pictures, words, or just hazy concepts? With me it's just a hazy concept, which might have a very blurred, dark image or two associated with it, but it's definitely not what I'd call pictures. It's pure, language-free thought.

I think in words a lot, but only as a secondary process to the basic conceptual thinking.

I simply can't "think in words" or "think in pictures". Can you? Can you produce a clear "mental image"? Picture a baby sitting on an alligator. Do you get a vivid, photo-quality picture in your mind? Or do you just think about the "concept"?

Most people can produce mental images, whether or not they represent their "standard" mode of thought.

Well, when I do think in words, if feels like concepts are the main thoughts and the words are constructed around those concepts....I'll try a sentence and then my brain will tell me whether that expresses the concept properly or not, then I might edit the words to get it clearer.

If I try to picture a baby on a crocodile, I don't see much more than a fleeting image of the baby from the Fairy Liquid logo and an fleeting image of a crocodile underneath. No way is it a clear, detailed picture. If I keep trying then I get something more detailed, and I start to add things like reins and the crocodile walking, but it's still nothing like photographic. It's much like my visual memory, that's not photographic either, more like icons, there are huge swathes of missing detail.

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03 Mar 2011, 9:23 am

Kaybee wrote:

ToughDiamond wrote:

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Yeah, I checked it too, and it's borked

Try this one http://www.web-us.com/brain/braindominance.htm

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You responded as a right brained person to 14 questions, and you responded as a left brained person to 4questions.

That makes more sense to me.

It wouldn't give me a score - just said "please answer all questions before scoring" - but I had done.

There's just 18 questions, right?

It did that to me. I just clicked them each one more time and it worked. I guess something hadn't registered.

You're not using Firefox with NoScript, by any chance?

Oh, OK it worked at last.......left 10, right 8. That's quite girly isn't it?

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03 Mar 2011, 9:30 am

ToughDiamond wrote:

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It wouldn't give me a score - just said "please answer all questions before scoring" - but I had done.

There's just 18 questions, right?

It did that to me. I just clicked them each one more time and it worked. I guess something hadn't registered.

You're not using Firefox with NoScript, by any chance?

Oh, OK it worked at last.......left 10, right 8. That's quite girly isn't it?

Firefox, yes. NoScript, no. I'm not sure what's girly about that. :?:

Aren't girls allegedly more right-brained?

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03 Mar 2011, 9:41 am

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But most things people think about being "left brained" vs. "right brained" are more sort of pop psychology things than actual neurology. There are differences, but they're not between being "artistic" and "scientific", or anything like that. And not everyone has their brain lateralized in the same way. Some people have their hemispheres the reverse of normal. And some people have different combinations of skills lateralized in unusual ways. (Often this doesn't become apparent until the person has a stroke or brain surgery or something. People who don't have serious neurological issues use both sides of their brain. Oh and some of what used to be thought of as how brain lateralization worked was from someone's misinterpretation of what they saw happening in people with brain damage, too.)

What you've said is true, but there's danger in saying things like, most things people think about being "left brained" vs. "right brained" are more sort of pop psychology things than actual neurology--it's not that the popular concepts regarding brain lateralization are simply devoid of value, they're just generalization that hint at things that are quite real.

It's a slippery slope. We want to strive for accuracy while acknowledging the truth in some generalities.

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03 Mar 2011, 9:43 am

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left 10, right 8. That's quite girly isn't it?

Firefox, yes. NoScript, no. I'm not sure what's girly about that. :?:

Aren't girls allegedly more right-brained?

Well, everybody else so far is getting a much lower score than me for right-brain, so I figured 8 out of 18 was relatively girly.

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03 Mar 2011, 9:47 am

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If I try to picture a baby on a crocodile, I don't see much more than a fleeting image of the baby from the Fairy Liquid logo and an fleeting image of a crocodile underneath. No way is it a clear, detailed picture. If I keep trying then I get something more detailed, and I start to add things like reins and the crocodile walking, but it's still nothing like photographic. It's much like my visual memory, that's not photographic either, more like icons, there are huge swathes of missing detail.

Well, I'd say you clearly have some visualization ability, but that it's rather impaired.

When people say things like, "think in pictures", I don't think they're saying they think exclusively in pictures--just that they tend to visualize as part of their normal cognitive processes.

Fascinating subject, and I never tire of hearing/reading explanations of various "levels" of visualization ability from people who have the powers of introspection necessary to convey their experience. Brains are cool!

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03 Mar 2011, 9:49 am

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left 10, right 8. That's quite girly isn't it?

Firefox, yes. NoScript, no. I'm not sure what's girly about that. :?:

Aren't girls allegedly more right-brained?

Well, everybody else so far is getting a much lower score than me for right-brain, so I figured 8 out of 18 was relatively girly.

If that's girly, Moog's 16 right-brained answers must make him the girliest man around. :lol:

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03 Mar 2011, 9:52 am

Kaybee wrote:

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Kaybee wrote:

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left 10, right 8. That's quite girly isn't it?

Firefox, yes. NoScript, no. I'm not sure what's girly about that. :?:

Aren't girls allegedly more right-brained?

Well, everybody else so far is getting a much lower score than me for right-brain, so I figured 8 out of 18 was relatively girly.

If that's girly, Moog's 16 right-brained answers must make him the girliest man around. :lol:

I'll refer you to this post http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp3421459.html#3421459

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03 Mar 2011, 10:22 am

Kaybee wrote:

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left 10, right 8. That's quite girly isn't it?

Firefox, yes. NoScript, no. I'm not sure what's girly about that. :?:

Aren't girls allegedly more right-brained?

Well, everybody else so far is getting a much lower score than me for right-brain, so I figured 8 out of 18 was relatively girly.

If that's girly, Moog's 16 right-brained answers must make him the girliest man around. :lol:

Ah, I read that back to front.

I can never remember which side is which, they should call them Roman and Celtic or something. But for a male Aspie, I still think I've got a girly score. I mean we should all be a lot more left than right-brained, shouldn't we, according to the theories?

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03 Mar 2011, 10:30 am

ToughDiamond wrote:

Kaybee wrote:

ToughDiamond wrote:

Kaybee wrote:

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left 10, right 8. That's quite girly isn't it?

Firefox, yes. NoScript, no. I'm not sure what's girly about that. :?:

Aren't girls allegedly more right-brained?

Well, everybody else so far is getting a much lower score than me for right-brain, so I figured 8 out of 18 was relatively girly.

If that's girly, Moog's 16 right-brained answers must make him the girliest man around. :lol:

Ah, I read that back to front.

Yes. This is one reason why I question my self diagnosis, and sometimes question the theories on this particular aspect of autism.

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03 Mar 2011, 10:43 am

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for a male Aspie, I still think I've got a girly score. I mean we should all be a lot more left than right-brained, shouldn't we, according to the theories?

Yes. This is one reason why I question my self diagnosis, and sometimes question the theories on this particular aspect of autism.

Well, the DSM never seemed too concerned with the maleness thing, if I remember right, so maybe it's just a theory that somebody added on without doing much research.

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03 Mar 2011, 11:03 am

I left my brain right where it does be the most good. Between my ears.

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03 Mar 2011, 11:31 am

Neuroscience is still working on this one...

But for arguments sake, I am extremely left handed and a very visual thinker with a BA in fine art. Make of it what you will.

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