Intelligence / Social Skills / Both / Neither??

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27 Mar 2011, 4:25 pm

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There are some threads in this forum that go way over my head. :lol:
Yes! And I was "smart" enough to go to an Ivy League college... :oops:



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06 May 2011, 11:21 am

I have it bad, because I'm neither clever nor sociable. I wish I were clever at something, but I'm not. I even struggle to grasp information with my special interests. But I think I will rank my social abilities higher than my intellectual abilities.


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06 May 2011, 11:31 am

I don't have social skills, and I am stupid and irrational (though, there was a time in my life when I believed I was, and I pretty much found out that if you believe you're smart, you can be smart and if you don't it's quite possible you aren't...that makes no sense perhaps, or mebbe it only applies to me, but when I thought I was intelligent, I could succeed at anything I put my mind into...really. Now I don't believe in myself and can't accomplish a thing. I wish I had that confidence still but it just doesn't work that way. My mind does not work in a very rational way, it seems.). My father is quite intelligent though, and he somehow claims I'm more intelligent than him...But I presume he just says that because I'm his daughter. A very easy way to tell I'm not intelligent is also the ridiculous way I communicate in here...I mean the way I type and my usage of words. It annoys me profusely, but if I don't type the way that I do, I feel I'm somehow 'wrong', and like I'm lying.
And yes, I'm obviously conflicted and contradictory. :?



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06 May 2011, 1:21 pm

When i was a kid, i was called the living encyclopedia, and does have a reasobly allround knowledge. Allround iq at 118 and iq veighted cognitive at 136.
Still i feel WERY low (outright stupid) functioning when it come to socialicing!



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06 May 2011, 3:27 pm

Unluckily I'm not smart. About my Q.I., i took an online test and i have low Q.I. (105 it seems).


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06 May 2011, 3:59 pm

Typeing seems more simple than speaking out loud for the majority of posters here, it seems. They're different skills to. I find it unfortunate that some people base intellegance off communication only though.

Edit: I sure need more grammar class, yeah? I wish the teachers could tell how much I struggle getting it to.



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06 May 2011, 9:00 pm

I have intelligence (going back to school for another Master's degree) and a decent set of social skills, though my social skills are not perfect. I can blend in and get along really well with certain groups of people, but if a girl is checking me out from across the room (or even across the table), I'll be completely oblivious to it - which really can be a problem because I'm still single and don't want it to stay that way.


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07 May 2011, 12:23 am

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I remember being told I was a genius all the time when I was younger, but I really don't think I am.

Yep, everyone thought I was a genius when I was reading before age 3 but my grades dropped off to C's in high school and now I'm just about average in intelligence, have no special skills, and have high trouble with higher math and science. My passions lie in the social sciences but in order to make a living out of something related, one has to have social skills......

My parents thought I'd become a successful doctor or scientist when I grew up and here I am underemployed and struggling my 30s.



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07 May 2011, 10:08 am

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Unluckily I'm not smart. About my Q.I., i took an online test and i have low Q.I. (105 it seems).


105? That's better than mine - mine's below 100. :oops:


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07 May 2011, 11:46 am

I never had an IQ test; don't see the point in it but I'm dyslexic & a very slow reader so it wouldn't surprise me if my results would be a lot lower if I take it by myself timed instead of having someone read it to me untimed. Considering how most would not be allowed accommodations like that; I feel my results would be a lot higher than they should be if I did have accommodations & considering the big difference accommodations can make; makes me question the credibility of those test in the 1st place. The stereotype online & in the media is that Aspies are geniuses with with things like match, science, computers, code ect but the downside is they have lots of social problems. I have all the social problems but I do not make up for it by having the genius intellect in fact my intelligence/skills/abilities in the stereotyped Aspie strengths are a lot worse than the average NT level which caused my classmates & others to assume I was mentally retorted; I think I'm smarter than that but I think I may be borderline or have some other kind of mental thing similar to AS or in addition to it. Ironically I couldn't get an official AS diagnoses because the so-called experts/specialist in my area seem to think the autism spectrum is kinda similar to mental retardation. IQ score has to be bellow the teen number rang; I think the number they told me was 17 or it was close to that. They also thought autistics were supposed to have extreme problems with verbal communication as well. So in answer to this post question~ I lack intelligence & social skills but I am considered too intelligent to be diagnosed with anything on the autism spectrum


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07 May 2011, 12:27 pm

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It seems to me that the case with a lot of Aspies is that they are insanely smart instead of having social skills, some are incredibly lucky and have both, NT's have Social Skills instead, and some of them also have both. I on the other hand feel as if I have neither. So I struggle very hard socially, but have no incredible 'Einstein-yness' to make up for it, except for having a good morale and kindness (I don't know, on here I could seem not so nice to some people but, IRL, I assure you I'm very kind). :)

This isn't a great big downer thread on myself, I'm glad about what I have that is good about me :), I'm just wondering if anyone else feels the same. Basically, "I don't have any social skills, so why don't I have amazing intelligence to make up for it like other people do?"


I have above average intellegence, but just like every other aspie it's not a "divine gift". It came because I'm far to much of a freak and can't leave unknowns alone :P I studied, and studied, and studied and spent extensive amount of time doing so. Also, aspies tend to remember alot of class lectures. My friends used to think I was crazy for never bringing a notebook to class with me. However I remember more than all of them. So thats how an aspie becomes smart, they wanna learn and they take a freakish amount of their time doing so.

As for social skills? I have friends, they think I'm weird :P but I have them. I'm not a social genius, I constantly interrupt people and my voice is very very loud. So..... yeah. I enjoy people though :)



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07 May 2011, 4:01 pm

I'm rather intelligent, but no genius (my IQ is around 144 according to online tests I've taken). I'm completely inept socially.

I have practically no friends and I'm not close to my family at all. I'm very socially isolated and have no idea how to make friends or socialize effectively.

My intelligence has its good and bad sides. On one hand it's convenient to be able to learn most things fast and easily, understand and solve complicated problems and have a lot of useful knowledge in my head for when I need it. On the other hand it means I very often have to slow down and wait for others to catch up or "get" things, I get negative reactions from some people for knowing too much or being nerdy or people feeling jealous or threatened by my intelligence, and I often need to "dumb myself down" to avoid negative reactions or to avoid making other people feel stupid.

It's also hard to get a chance to really use intelligence without much social skills. Employers put a huge emphasis on social skills. Social skills and social networks are often crucial to survive in a corporate environment/office politics and such and to get jobs or opportunities. It's even hard to get proper medical care and various services with such little social skills. Intelligence alone doesn't necessarily get you very far.



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07 May 2011, 9:39 pm

Nordlys wrote:
Unluckily I'm not smart. About my Q.I., i took an online test and i have low Q.I. (105 it seems).


105 is about mid normal. It isn't high, or high normal, but it isn't low either.

As for me, I tested high. I started out doing VERY well. Like anubend, I started out way ahead, and was improving faster, but I noticed that I started slowing down, and they didn't. In some ways, they started doing better in school. Of course, I did better ELSEWHERE.

As for social? I guess I did KIND of OK until about 6yo, and then did far worse.



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07 May 2011, 9:56 pm

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I remember being told I was a genius all the time when I was younger, but I really don't think I am. Everything I say or do is thoroughly planned out, I spend a lot of time thinking about things. I have come to notice that not everyone does this. Most people believe what they are told, and do not process the information or question it. I don't think I have some special intelligence that most people do not, I think I just use what I have more than the average person.

Then again, sometimes it just blows my mind how unbelievably stupid people can be. I just don't understand how people don't understand the simplest of things. Go ahead and call it egotistical sublime, but it is true.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that while I am surrounded by people everyday that are extremely dumb, I really don't think I'm the next Einstein by any means.

Maybe I really am that intelligent, and I'm just downplaying it, honestly I have no idea. At the same time, I can't help but think that I'm just full of myself, and I really do have average intelligence. I probably look like a basket case writing this, but it's true. There is no easy way to know if someone is gifted or not.


I've long suspected you're pretty gifted due to the way you use your abstract reasoning and the complexity thereof. Cognitive complexity is one of the defining criteria of "intelligence", according to the psychology community.



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07 May 2011, 10:00 pm

I personally test out rather high in IQ, but I get the feeling that I have memory deficits that are sabotaging my ability to use it effectively. My social skills? Meh. I get the feeling I'm too psycho to have "social skills" and I'm suspecting my verbal memory is too impoverished to have 'effective' communication skills, but for what it's worth, I can nod my head and smile! I'm hoping that gets me far, haha.



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08 May 2011, 12:33 pm

Intelligence - is average.
Social Skills - very low, sorry did not know I was annoying people for 35 years.
Persistence - Absolutely amazing, I think I scare people.
Eyesight - is poor, so processing college\work\people in real time is kinda hard.

It all adds up to make me Superman, I'm me. :D