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18 Apr 2011, 4:43 am

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All I can say to that is Benjamin Franklin must have been a happy drunk. Beer can conversely be proof that God wants us to have domestic violence and alcoholic-dementia.
Me, I don't get it. I conducted an experiment recently with a mate of mine and a very large bottle of Irish whiskey. Both of us downed a half each. My friend is a happy drunk, thus was characteristically happy. I'm exactly the same - which made her laugh hysterically. Me drunk is exactly the same to me sober. Same goes for high and stoned. Mystery.



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18 Apr 2011, 10:57 pm

Fact: You don't need alcohol to make friends or have a good time. You don't need alcohol to take the edge of stress.

If friends, family or acquittance put pressure on you to take drugs, tobacco or alcohol then politely say no. If they persist then ask them if they value your friendship over the drug. If the answer is no then...well you know....



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19 Apr 2011, 2:40 am

cyberdad wrote:
Fact: You don't need alcohol to make friends or have a good time.


No-one's saying that. It can enhance a good time, though. That said, it can also exacerbate depression.

It's very much a personal choice thing.



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19 Apr 2011, 5:40 am

Tequila wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Fact: You don't need alcohol to make friends or have a good time.
No-one's saying that. It can enhance a good time, though. That said, it can also exacerbate depression. It's very much a personal choice thing.


Peer/social pressure + Media + impressionable age = susceptibility to consuming something that is addictive and unnecessary



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19 Apr 2011, 5:45 am

cyberdad wrote:
Peer/social pressure + Media + impressionable age = susceptibility to consuming something that is addictive and unnecessary


Not necessarily. I drink alcohol because I like it. Simple as.

Lots of things are 'unnecessary' but we do them because we like them, because they're enjoyable and fun. What a drab, grey, authoritarian blancmange life would be if we didn't have many diversions and frivolities to pass the time. :)



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19 Apr 2011, 11:00 am

I think I'm pretty lucky in the sense that I'm capable of telling myself to stop drinking. I like a buzz, but not the feeling where I've drank even a little too much (I call it a "stale" feeling). So, I usually only drink 1 or 2 glasses of wine. Plus, alcohol makes me really tired. So, I usually only drink it when I've had a really stressful day at work. It loosens me up and then makes me tired, but I can see how it may make it easier for you to make friends...But to keep them? After drinking at college parties, I always found it hard to carry over that alcohol induced friendliness into sober daily life.



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19 Apr 2011, 7:29 pm

Light to moderate drinkers live longer than non drinkers



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19 Apr 2011, 7:34 pm

Tequila wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Peer/social pressure + Media + impressionable age = susceptibility to consuming something that is addictive and unnecessary


Not necessarily. I drink alcohol because I like it. Simple as.

Lots of things are 'unnecessary' but we do them because we like them, because they're enjoyable and fun. What a drab, grey, authoritarian blancmange life would be if we didn't have many diversions and frivolities to pass the time. :)


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Light to moderate drinkers live longer than non drinkers


I've never read much into it, but I suspect that the correlation may not be implying causation. Perhaps people who don't drink are statistically more likely to be the sort of people who are highly stressed, or depressed, or some other mechanism like that.


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19 Apr 2011, 10:04 pm

I'm scared of it. I'm only 16 and I can't drink yet, but I don't ever plan to drink! (Except maybe on special occasions) I have taken a couple sips of alcohol (just my parents' drinks to see what it was like) and I didn't like it at all. It made me feel dizzy on the first sip. (I either have zero alcohol tolerance or this is psychological).


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20 Apr 2011, 3:31 am

ocdgirl123 wrote:
I'm scared of it. I'm only 16 and I can't drink yet, but I don't ever plan to drink! (Except maybe on special occasions) I have taken a couple sips of alcohol (just my parents' drinks to see what it was like) and I didn't like it at all. It made me feel dizzy on the first sip. (I either have zero alcohol tolerance or this is psychological).


If it's strong, then it's no wonder. Try some different low-alcohol (not low-alcohol in genre, because they're sickly, tasteless crap, but low-alcohol in content) beers where you live and see what you think.

Whereabouts are you in Canada?



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20 Apr 2011, 7:33 pm

I'm not interested (or allowed to by law or house rules) to drink though.


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20 Apr 2011, 8:15 pm

If you can't see as good, and you can't stand up and walk straight, clearly part of your brain is impaired while drunk. If you're not drunk, why isn't it still impairing part of the brain? This is an improvement somehow? Oh, it's also a depressant. Worry about social failure wouldn't be part of your problem would it?



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20 Apr 2011, 8:23 pm

Ah, OK. I'll just sit here nursing one of these then.

Pint of Oakham Citra, table outside The Crown Bar, off the High Street, Nantwich

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21 Apr 2011, 2:47 am

Southern Comfort is the USA's most important contribution to the advancement of civilization.



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21 Apr 2011, 4:49 am

I don't drink alcohol much, I don't like the flavour.
Having a glass of wine just makes me feel dizzy.



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21 Apr 2011, 2:08 pm

I gave it up over seven years ago. The one or two a day of 30 years ago became a 200 ml bottle of vodka and a six-pack of beer every day habit. Screwed me up big time. Gave me a pot belly and high blood pressure. Was drinking fun? In retrospect, nope. It wasn't. It was an amazing waste of time and money.