Do you like urbandictionary's take on aspergers syndrome?
Call me when you're 35 and can't keep a job for more than a year at a time and tell me then that AS is no big deal.
Please reread my post as I think you may be missing my point

Getting the diagnosis made me sit back and accept that I would have the maturity of a 17 year old for life. It wasn't meant to do that, but I was exhausted. I wanted a break and a way out and I took it for a year or two. But I want more out of life and to get it, I need to keep moving and keep trying because I know that I can learn.
I'm sorry you haven't had an easy time of things so far but I wasn't advocating letting kids with difficulties struggle on alone; I think there should be help for anyone who needs it and schools should aim to help all kids learn basic social skills. I just don't think telling a young person that they are not normal will help in the long term, but rather everyone should be encouraged to think of all people as differant (a lot of NTs I meet are surprisingly bad at guessing the meaning behind someone's behaviour if it doesn't match with their own group's). As I said, this is just my opinion
I won't try and waver you then

That is Asperger's syndrome.
Basically, some whiny teenage emo outcasts figured out that they kind of were autistic, but only just a teeny bit. Then they started making this BS movement for other whiny ~unique~ teenagers to join them. So that they could all meet together on the Internet and have a giant f***ing circlejerk about how ''UNIQUE'' and ''MISUNDERSTOOD'' they are. And got a few dips**t doctors to vouch for them.
Hey, it's cool that you're an emo freak of nature and you can't make eye contact, or stand tags on clothing. Lots of people have weird little quirks like that. In fact, everyone on Earth does. But when you claim it's a disorder and associate it with a REAL disorder like autism, and then have the nerve to prance around like your sh** don't stink, then you can just go f**k yourself. And then go back to your hug-box, ass pie.
I've read this before. I think he does have a point. I've met the 'dips**t' doctors and they've proudly announced in their lectures how if not for their medical certs, certain students conveniently dx'd with AS/ADHD/whatever right before their exams (and granted extra marks) would not have gotten into the competitive courses they did. Other students, each with their own difficulties but who'd put in the work and got better grades missed out as a result.
I'm also starting to seriously resent the medicalisation of what basically is, as this person writes, a set of personality quirks for a large amount of people. Whilst I am in complete favour of teaching social/coping skills to all children, I'm personally of the opinion that I don't think most children should know of their 'AS' label until adulthood. It's far too easy to opt out once you have an excuse; I was diagnosed as a semi-adult (22) and whilst it brought great relief for a time, it also made me give up trying because 'it's who I am'. Nobody is set in stone, certainly not for the first 30 years of their life.
I've recently gone back to trying and pick up where I left. I've decided that whilst I have a 'syndrome' of symptoms, and thus aspergers syndrome, I do not have aspergers disease; I can explain a lot of my social ineptness by my childhood experiences and the combination of my parent's personalities (not AS), and thus with hard work I can get over it to a reasonable extent. Obviously, it's harder for some than others and it does depend on many factors. I haven't ruled out the idea that there may be a 'gene' for AS or a cause in the future, just I don't think everyone displaying the collection of (really quite vague) symptoms should all be treated as the one condition and certainly not compared to autism. That just seems sloppy.
Note, I'm mainly talking about the 'mild AS' people, not folks who are classicly AS/borderline autistic. I still think labels are a bad idea though. They are like masks; you can hide behind them and they can protect you, but it's difficult to learn anything whilst hiding.
If my mother told me I had ADD or other labels as a kid, I would have started using them as an excuse in a heartbeat and refuse to take responsibility over my behavior because "I can't help it." Back then I thought special need kids had an excuse for everything and thought it was okay for them to do stuff because "They didn't know any better" so I thought they didn't need to learn because of their disability. But then at the same time I would have hated having them because it would meant I was different and not normal. That's how I felt about AS when my mother told me.
When I found out at 14 I actually had ADD, I started to use it as an excuse. I even started to use my AS as an excuse eventually once I found out what it was. I couldn't understand what's the point in having it if you can't get your way and have to do things like everyone else.
I got confused there though about when you said you were talking about mild AS. Did you mean people with mild AS should learn but not kids who are classic AS or borderline autistic? But then you mentioned in the middle of your post "all children" for learning social and coping skills.
I do think aspies can go from severe AS to mild AS if they get the help they need in their childhood and the therapies. Severely autistics kids have gone from severe to mild autism or to AS or to losing their autism diagnoses so I think it's possible. But every time an autistic child loses their autism label I am always skeptical about it because I wonder if they are just functioning at the AS level now.
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This bit made me laugh

Ah, sorry; I meant I was talking about mild AS when I said that kids shouldn't be told their diagnosis. If it's really severe AS/autism, I'm honestly not sure what the correct tactic is. I think schools should teach basic social skills to all kids, AS, HFA or NT. Even more severe autism might benefit too (but I think they may already get that in their classes). It would certainly be more long term use than geography

That's great news though (I think anyway). Even if they are AS now, they'll manage to accomplish more now. I know someone will probably flame me and say that life isn't about accomplishments but I know that if I were me now, and in the past I couldn't do half the things I could do now, I would want the help. It's real mine field territory though, and I admit I have no idea whether it is 'right' to try and help all kids become more normal. I'll save that for PPR

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... 20syndrome?
However, many NTs have learned to compensate for their disabilites and are able to communicate with those on the Autistic Spectrum succesfully.
Thats my favourite bit
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Hmm, when people start saying "using it as an excuse," I just tune them out.
The definition quoted in the OP is not insightful, accurate, clever, witty, or funny. It is simply someone fulminating about Asperger's Syndrome.
Also, count me as one of those who tried very hard to succeed and managed to get nowhere repeatedly without having a diagnosis. I did get called "stupid" and "lazy" a lot while I was growing up, however.
That urban dictionary entry was a rant, not a definition. The author's self loathing projected outwardly. Surely there's a disorder that defines that type of reaction to one's ailments?
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Knowing I have AS has made a big difference to me. It's helped me to better understand why I do what I do and navigate through rough waters more easily. If I had known sooner, I think I would have been better able to tell myself to take a step back during emotional outbursts and avoided certain bad consequences. It's also nice to have found people I can relate to which never would have happened otherwise. I didn't know where to look
I hate it. I find it altogether offensive. For openers, I am no "whiny, emo teenager." I am a grandmother, and I've known all my life there was something different about me that others didn't like.
I do agree that disorders can be overdiagnosed, and that the ovediagnosed illnesses can come in fad-like clusters. Once someone is discovered to have a disorder, and it explains EVERYTHING they've always wondered about themselves, there is a tendency to start looking for that same disorder in other people who might have some of the same signs.
And anything can be used as an excuse. As a child in second grade, it was discovered that repeated ear and throat infections had left me with a 50% hearing loss, which surgery ended up correcting to 20%. I now have trouble with discerning consonants from each other, and also with background noise--but then it turns out, the background noise thing is also part of AS.
In the meantime, did I use hearing loss as an excuse to ignore directions and then when confronted, say, "I didn't hear you"? Heck, yes. There were of course times when I did not hear, but there were others when I just played the hearing loss to my advantage.
The rage-a-holic here could have been misdiagnosed AS, all caught up in the flurry when his relative came up autistic, and was reacting to the bandwagon mentality.
He's still a jerk, though.
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It is satire. Not very good satire. But I can't take it too seriously. Especially since the Urban Dictionary tends towards the snarky anyway. The fact that emo kids would get together to "invent" aspieness sort of contradicts the whole social obliviousness thing.
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I understand that site is supposed to be funny, so it is not like I am offended or mad about the definition. I do not think it is funny though. I think it would have been funny if the author had decided to say something really stereotypical and silly like,
Cannot be bothered to define right now... too busy looking at lol cats.. or maybe trains or gears or traps or... oh.. how about I cannot define this now because my hands are too busy flapping? Some stereotype we are all supposed to have... I can be awful with humor, but I hope you all get the point.
I think they could have done a better job with the humor is what I mean.
I will shut up and move along now...
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