IF you were neurotypical would you like or dislike aspies?

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24 Apr 2011, 2:00 am

Dasaniman wrote:
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I lack sufficient data to give you an answer with any meaning. For one I am not neurotypical and do not know what I would or would not like if I were. For another aspies are a diverse group not a monolithic collective that are all the same. Given point two it is likely that just as now I might enjoy the company of Aspie "A" while wanting to shove Aspie "B" out of the airlock of a space ship, but that brings us back to point one and me not being able to answer because I don't know what being neurotypical feels like or what it would do to my personality.



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24 Apr 2011, 2:58 am

As someone who is most likely neurotypical (Disregard my current diagnostic status -- I'm lying for the sake of "fitting in", a testament to my neurotypical status, lol.), there are quite a few AS females here who are fairly attractive to me. It's more the personality, though, than the physical traits associated with AS so I couldn't comment on the "real person" 's attractiveness. I don't imagine it would really matter, though.

Outside the romantic context, I tend to appreciate differences so I'd imagine I would have no reason to dislike aspies. But, that's probably because I am AS and I'm lying to myself about my neurotypical status to make me feel more optimistic about my future prospects, lol. (I'm actually thrilled about the idea of meeting a group of aspies face to face to see what they're really like 'in real life' and I wonder if I'm, at all, anything like them.)

Also, my sister is definitely neurotypical and finds this aspie guy at school "weird" to talk to(He doesn't understand sarcasm), but she doesn't 'dislike' him. The same with her boyfriend.



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24 Apr 2011, 3:11 am

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Talking online also avoids most of the things that would annoy me about autistic people in real life, like stimming, not making eye contact, having a monotone voice, poor personal hygiene, being in my personal space etc.

I don't do any of these things and I have asperger's.

OP: I suppose there would be some aspies I would like and some I wouldn't, just like now, because asperger's or autism isn't the only characteristic of someone's personality.



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24 Apr 2011, 3:52 am

Well, I doubt I'd be more understanding without an AS brain, so.. my opinion would be unchanged.

Naw, I kid. :wink:

Mostly.

I mean people with AS are still people, there's still gonna be people you dislike who have it as well as people you think are totally awesome. Heck, with how often that inability to see things from the other person's point of view happens, or even agreeing that the other person has any right to have an opinion of their own... Yeah, there's some people with AS I don't like to be around because every conversation WILL become an argument where everything I (or anyone who disagrees with them on anything) say is mere subjective emotional opinion and everything they say is absolute irrefutable cold hard fact. Even when speaking of unprovable subjects or just on likes or dislikes. It kind of lends itself to a lot of "oh for the love of.." facepalming moments and frustrations. If that irritates me now, I don't think that would change just by being an NT.

Sometimes, I can see the NT point of view so very very well when it comes to that mental rigidity. Heck, sometimes I'm thinking that "Oh for the love of..." thought about the NTs too - and not always when it comes to them dealing with AS but sometimes when it comes to other NTs. Yes, a lot of them are also really awful at putting themselves in one another's shoes! I respect trying though, even if people are absolute rubbish at it I respect being willing to make the effort because that's huge. I don't think that part would change by being an NT, that's something non-genetic I got from my parents.



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24 Apr 2011, 7:49 am

CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
Louise18 wrote:
Talking online also avoids most of the things that would annoy me about autistic people in real life, like stimming, not making eye contact, having a monotone voice, poor personal hygiene, being in my personal space etc.

I don't do any of these things and I have asperger's.

OP: I suppose there would be some aspies I would like and some I wouldn't, just like now, because asperger's or autism isn't the only characteristic of someone's personality.


Sure, I don't dislike all autistic people because they are autistic, but I would probably like less of them than I do NTs for those reasons (and I like very few NTs anyway)



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24 Apr 2011, 4:29 pm

KBerg wrote:
Well, I doubt I'd be more understanding without an AS brain, so.. my opinion would be unchanged.

Naw, I kid. :wink:

Mostly.

I mean people with AS are still people, there's still gonna be people you dislike who have it as well as people you think are totally awesome. Heck, with how often that inability to see things from the other person's point of view happens, or even agreeing that the other person has any right to have an opinion of their own... Yeah, there's some people with AS I don't like to be around because every conversation WILL become an argument where everything I (or anyone who disagrees with them on anything) say is mere subjective emotional opinion and everything they say is absolute irrefutable cold hard fact. Even when speaking of unprovable subjects or just on likes or dislikes. It kind of lends itself to a lot of "oh for the love of.." facepalming moments and frustrations. If that irritates me now, I don't think that would change just by being an NT.

Sometimes, I can see the NT point of view so very very well when it comes to that mental rigidity. Heck, sometimes I'm thinking that "Oh for the love of..." thought about the NTs too - and not always when it comes to them dealing with AS but sometimes when it comes to other NTs. Yes, a lot of them are also really awful at putting themselves in one another's shoes! I respect trying though, even if people are absolute rubbish at it I respect being willing to make the effort because that's huge. I don't think that part would change by being an NT, that's something non-genetic I got from my parents.

Here you make a point that has kept my brain occupied for long. (bolds mine) From time to time I wonder if we should establish a parameter of the above independently to other disability traits.

To the topic, If I meet a queer person usually I keep a distance and I try to be friendly with him, then when I have a deeper insight into him, I can decide if I like him or not. These queer persons also include auties.

Usually I like people who are seemingly righteous, forgiving, have good sense of give-and-take, and last but not least avoid being judgmental.



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24 Apr 2011, 5:42 pm

I don't even know how I feel about them in person as I am, because I don't know any.



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24 Apr 2011, 5:50 pm

I'd like to think that I'd be the same as I am now - to treat people individually, regardless of whatever labels they posess.
But in the broad sense of it all, it would probably depend on whether I by chance, met someone with it, or gained some understanding in it.


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24 Apr 2011, 6:11 pm

I don't know what I'd like as an NT so I don't know.


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25 Apr 2011, 12:01 am

This is like saying, "I am white, and I love/hate all black people". How can you say you will like ALL people. I am AS, and I like SOME NT people and SOME AS peple. Some NT and some AS people are jerks who I don't care to be around. It is not the NT or the AS label that matters, it is their individual personalities, and every individual has a different personality.



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25 Apr 2011, 12:53 am

I'm not NT and I dislike most people with AS, but then again, I dislike most people.


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25 Apr 2011, 1:36 am

If they were nice to me, I would like them.



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25 Apr 2011, 1:29 pm

The trick is, there's as much variation within people on the spectrum as within people not on the spectrum.

I'm a self-diagnosed Aspie. There are other people on the spectrum that I get along great with. There are other people on the spectrum that drive me nuts if they're in my presence for more than about 90 seconds. Same with NT's.