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Jonsi
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30 May 2011, 8:59 pm

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No. I'm myself. I don't believe in lying as a way to fit in. What if you get caught in that lie? You only end up hurting yourself.


you cant have aspergers then

if you are being yourself you wouldnt even talk to people really.

I dont lie. I fake. fake conversations, fake bieng social. the alternative is too be mute
Just because I'm HFA doesn't mean I don't have it. I still have like zero friends in real life. I understand social situations but I still miss social cues. I still have a lot of trouble connecting to people. I have far above average intelligence. I stim. I have special interests. I was the aspie poster child until recently. I don't make eye contact, not because of no confidence, but because it's overwhelming. I have the associated hypersensitivities to certain smells, sights and feelings. I'm terribly clumsy and awkward. I'm even professionally diagnosed.

I'm happy with who I am, I'm positive and I love everyone I meet. That's how I work around my difficulties.

Just because I function normally as myself doesn't mean I'm not autistic.



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30 May 2011, 9:04 pm

This is one of those those things that I don't realize I do until I think about it. It's amazing just how often I steal people's phrases and not even notice it.


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31 May 2011, 3:03 am

I am a dirty sex robot.



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31 May 2011, 5:06 am

Yes I do a lot of copycat stuff. If somebody else has said it and it sounded authentic or seemed to work for them, I'll often say it too, if I can detect the right context. And sometimes I use their old words in a new context, to create a different effect.

But I'm also capable of original speech too, and sometimes I can't help but use it.....often I don't know where the driving force is coming from.

I think we have to remember that copying is common in NTs too. They're always quoting each other and borrowing each other's phrases and mantras. Personally I usually repeat their mantras in a sarcastic way to expose them as deceptive, and there's often more than a touch of irony when I repeat their phrases, though not always.



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31 May 2011, 5:21 am

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Personally I usually repeat their mantras in a sarcastic way to expose them as deceptive, and there's often more than a touch of irony when I repeat their phrases, though not always.


I TOTALLY RELATE 2 THIS, DAWG.



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31 May 2011, 5:53 am

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Personally I usually repeat their mantras in a sarcastic way to expose them as deceptive, and there's often more than a touch of irony when I repeat their phrases, though not always.
I hope you don't use Aspergers as an excuse when people call you an a**hole.



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31 May 2011, 8:40 am

Jonsi wrote:
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Personally I usually repeat their mantras in a sarcastic way to expose them as deceptive, and there's often more than a touch of irony when I repeat their phrases, though not always.
I hope you don't use Aspergers as an excuse when people call you an a**hole.

No, I just say it takes one to know one.

MotownDangerPants wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
Personally I usually repeat their mantras in a sarcastic way to expose them as deceptive, and there's often more than a touch of irony when I repeat their phrases, though not always.

I TOTALLY RELATE 2 THIS, DAWG.


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31 May 2011, 10:32 am

I actually AM an actor. I'm much more comfortable on stage performing than when I'm off, because I have a memorized script to go by, and I can release much pent-up passion. It also helps that I've been doing it since I was 6 years old.

It's very confusing to people that I'm so "introverted" when I'm the exact opposite on stage. Heck, once I'm out of character, I have a hard time accepting compliments for a performance I gave just 5 minutes earlier!



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31 May 2011, 10:41 am

Jonsi wrote:
No. I'm myself. I don't believe in lying as a way to fit in. What if you get caught in that lie? You only end up hurting yourself.


It's not "lying" - that's not an apt comparison. There's nothing to get "caught" in. A better way to phrase it is that social interaction takes a lot of conscious effort, an so one develops stereotyped phrases to represent different thoughts or feelings to deal with that. The reason someone jumped on you is because the mimicry is involuntary - it's not conscious 'lying' at all. Stereotyped behavior is a reflex, not a pretense.



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01 Jun 2011, 1:04 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
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Personally I usually repeat their mantras in a sarcastic way to expose them as deceptive, and there's often more than a touch of irony when I repeat their phrases, though not always.
I hope you don't use Aspergers as an excuse when people call you an a**hole.

No, I just say it takes one to know one.

Coming from the one going around trying to prove people are liars.



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01 Jun 2011, 5:24 pm

My current job is telesales. I'm an actress there. Everyone there is though, to some extent, the difference is that even basic things that everyone else starts doing immediately when they get the job, like making the script sound natural, and sounding (often falsely) interested and calm, didn't come naturally to me and I didn't even see how important they were and how bad I sounded.

I had to learn EVERYTHING from scratch, I was terrible for a while. Then I went to the other extreme and sounded so over-enthusiastic that one person I called actually made fun of me about it.

I'm not great now, mostly because I don't think of the best responses to what people say quickly enough, but I've kept the job for over a year, because I listened carefully to my colleagues and with trial and error I gradually cobbled together the tone and conversational style and phrases that I'm most comfortable with and can pull off.

It's been a very helpful experience in many ways, but I will be happy to go to university and turn my back on sales and customer service. I'm not cut out for them.



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02 Jun 2011, 3:38 am

Jonsi wrote:
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Jonsi wrote:
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Personally I usually repeat their mantras in a sarcastic way to expose them as deceptive, and there's often more than a touch of irony when I repeat their phrases, though not always.
I hope you don't use Aspergers as an excuse when people call you an a**hole.

No, I just say it takes one to know one.

Coming from the one going around trying to prove people are liars.

Do stop trolling, Jonsi.



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02 Jun 2011, 5:34 am

I'm kinda a mixture depending on the situation... But I do things in quite a robotic, calculated way. However the way I act depends on my feelings most of the time.



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02 Jun 2011, 5:58 am

Nah, I don't do this. I can understand why people do though. I'm not quite as impaired socially as I used to be. Back in the day, I would even deliberately attempt to create my own fashions, trends, slang and all of that. No one ever followed them though :lol:

I do tend to try and use the language of the people I am talking to to some extent, just keywords really. It helps build rapport.

A lot of the common memes and themes that people pick up from the media are damaging, and I'd rather not spread them around.


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02 Jun 2011, 7:08 am

For me, I'm terrified that if I mimic I will use the wrong phrase or slang or reference. So it's easier for me to be a robot than an actress, but even as a robot I'm more like a roomba: quietly skirting around the room minding my own business.



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02 Jun 2011, 10:19 am

Well, yes, I do. Why else do I have the nickname?


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