I HAVE CHARISMA.

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it was an accident. lol

okay, so all joking aside. I have been told a handful of times I was charismatic. like, a small handful of a baby fist. but it keeps ke positive that at least some people get me.

I think Swbluto is just being bitter. That someone on the spectrum can have more charisma is absolutely crushing to someone who fears they might just be an "NT loser". I'm just going by his post history that he has self-esteem issues. Not that I want to bash anyone for having low self-esteem, as I can certainly relate, but taking it out on people who haven't done anything to you just isn't right.

Well, just to be fair - I believe I was the one who coined the 'NT loser' term first in response to his undxing me.

Actually my assessment is from an older thread where he was complaining about his problems. Actually the very idea that an AS label is just a tool to put a positive light on or make an "excuse" for being "different" is kind of offensive. People should be respected for who they are regardless of whether they have a particular label to describe their differences.

People have told me I am very nice and very sweet. People have said they enjoy chatting with me. But I have an autistic friend who talks about lot of stuff and people enjoy hearing him talk too. I think he has lot of interests and he talks about them and people don't ever get bored with what he says because he doesn't talk about the same things over and over, by the time he talks about the same thing again, he has already talked about other things. I don't know if this is a charisma.

After looking the word up, I think autistics can be that. Temple Grandin would probably be considered one since she is an inspiration to other autistics and everyone else. And John Robison I would say so too since he found ways to get through his disability and make a life out of his talent and gift.


And what's wrong with wanting to be alone at times but yet people still enjoy you around? That isn't contradictory. I think people are too quick about using that word because they throw it around when there is no contradiction. Okay I do not like cold weather nor hot weather. That should be obvious I like it just right so that isn't contradictory there. What if I were to say I like hot weather when I was talking about swimming? Not contradictory since I only like it when I want to go swimming. Or if I were to say I love snow. Not contradictory since I love snow but I hate cold weather but that is only when I like it because of the snow. But I would hate to be forced to be out in it unless I play in it. And people say I contradict myself but what I think is, it's just them with the problem. They just want things to be black and white and can't even see they just misunderstood me when I make myself more clear. I don't mind rain and am fine with it but if I have to be out in it, I hate rain. Or am I really that confusing? My shrink used to get lost all the time in what I was saying and I thought he was just dumb. Then he realized part of me whats this and part me doesn't and part me of likes it and part of me doesn't and I only like something in certain situations but rest of the time I don't like it. I don't see how that is a contradiction there. I just think people don't understand and they want things to be black and white. So if I hate cold weather, I have to hate snow, dislike skiing because I can't like cold weather but then like snow and skiing since it involves cold weather. Those people are just nuts with their thinking. Thus why I don't like black and white thinking.

I thought you were trying to add something to the discussion, but after reading replies, apparently your response was a bit more cynical. Why would you bother to participate in a discussion if you have nothing helpful to say? Is life really so bad for you?

In my experience, having some semblance of charisma is actually a bit of a curse. People are less likely to recognize your difficulties and not understand why you behave the way you do. They are less likely to think something is neurologically wrong with you and more likely to think that your odd behavior or social mishaps are due to some sort of moral failing or personality flaw. It also means any and all problems are immediately dismissed as "not serious". I think it ends up going back to the same "high functioning" versus "low functioning" argument and, in the end, nobody has it easy... even those neurotypicals that you speak of. I wouldn't trade places with anyone.

Maybe I am the withdrawn artistic kind of neurotypical as you say (minus my ADHD)... I've mostly just decided that, while I have many Aspie "traits", I probably do not qualify for the full diagnosis. I nonetheless relate strongly enough to many of the posts on this forum that I continue to hang around and to reply to topics. I've learned much more in my stay here than I have on any ADHD forum or talk therapy session.

syrella, and anyone else who has fallen foul of this... unpleasantness... you don't have to defend yourselves, you're all perfectly within your rights to explore your personal neurological ins and outs on this forum, as you do so with respect to other people.

If you have ADHD, you aren't even neurotypical.

Seriously, what a joke. You seem very nice, Syrella, you don't need to explain anything. I hope people won't be afraid to say what they feel like saying here because of a**holes with too much free time.

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I can be quite a nice person to be around, but it's artificial and I think people can tell

Charisma and autism can go hand in hand, just watch autism:the musical, those kids are pretty charismatic.

Same with me. I never knew WOT my deal was before coming here. This site has explained A LOT.

And still, I probably wouldn't qualify for a diagnosis either, I just like to hang out here and am occasionally curious as to whether I could be n the spectrum ,although I doubt it.

Also because my account can't be deleted so I might as well continue to post, anyway :;)

Lol. Me, a loser? You're joking, right?




Lol. That might be a fitting assessment and if true, I can finally say that I'm equal, in at least one respect, to nearly everyone here.

Dag nabbit. You can't blame me for dreaming, can you?

So what, my Paladin in Dungeons and Dragons had high charisma too.

I was thinking the same thing actually.

But yea, in real life, I have little to no charisma whatsoever. I can't sweet talk my way out of anything, even if I use logic as persuasion. It seems like people don't care about making logical decisions at all.

Yep. It's pretty much all interpersonal relational decisions... "Do I trust this person?", and trust is largely relationally defined among NTs. You can't blame them for this mode of thinking because the vast majority of them are simply incapable of logic, except when it directly benefits them and is simple enough.

There's a whole logic of feeling that underlies relationships, and it's different to mental logic.