Why are all of you so defeatist?

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Chief?Why did you call me that?Well i have evidence at least from my self,personal(saw satan in my dream when i was an atheist laughing and saying i am an atheist,then he punched me,had ''astral projection'',sleep paralysis/demon attacks(demon sucking energy out of me like a woodpecker),also some other things that i may tell only a Priest).Also evidence of miracles,scientists can't explain.Also why did you think that people believed in God(The Real),gods and demons since the ancient times?From different places from the one part of the Earth to the other?Also people still believe in God or false Gods or to the religion of atheism and science.

How was that general? I was address a specific group of people, namely those the original poster was speaking of.

JohnyJohn, I don't think that suicidal people should commit murder. Even if I thought that murder could be a good thing (I don't), I think it would hurt a lot of innocent people who might end up suicidal themselves...

Listen to the podcast or read the transcript: Deconstructing 'Myths About Suicide'

Some more mythbusting from CrisisLink: Suicide Myths

Well in my case I just don't want to.

The reason is because how you are treated as a child.
How you are treated as an adolescent.
You are isolated, rejected...rinse and repeat.

In adulthood, you remember this. It sticks with you. You stay that way.

The bullies win.

It doesn't have to be this way.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgQNQEuVKMo[/youtube]

I don't know about that, when I attemped I did initially want to end it because I was sick of the mental pain and felt like that was the only solution, but of course I was a 15 year old kid and it took the overdose quite a while to start doing anything so by then I had admitted to a couple people that I took a bunch of pills and was having second thoughts. And since then when I have thought of further attempts its usually because I feel like there is no point in continuing life.

I call people chief often; don't let it get your undies in a twist.

You saw satan in a dream? That's evidence? Of what? That you had a bad dream? In my dream last night, a zombie apocalypse started, and it ended with them learning how to talk and starting a rudimentary form of government. Know what that means? Not a damn thing. Dreams are dreams; I asked for evidence.

Evidence of miracles scientists can't explain? Name three. Go on. Link me.

Why do I think that people believe in god? Mostly because people are ignorant sheep, and the NTs (who are in the majority) tend to have a herd mentality and repeat anything they hear without questioning it. Combine that with a history of people with mental illnesses claiming to have seen things (like demons and satan in their dreams), and you have the start of the cults that we have today.

Saying Atheism is a religion is like saying bald is a hair-style. Science is clearly not a religion since I can link you fact based materials showing that science is true instead of telling you science is true because I had a dream about gravity or relativity (which I actually have). Religions are comforting folk-lore passed down generationally through gullible people or coerced into populations through force.

My suicide attempts were never about asking for help. I hid my suicidal impulses and attempts from everyone around me for 15 years. It took a lot of effort for me to break out of that and actually ask someone for help to stop the suicidal ideation. I didn't want help, I didn't want anyone to know, I just wanted to make everything stop.

I did it too. My parents had to tell me to shut up, they got so sick of hearing it. I'm convinced that it's a psychosis related to AS-I've met at least one here that seems to have similar symptoms as I had in my teens and up until I was put on Risperdal at 26. I know that if the Risperdal is interrupted I get all depressed/angry and jittery, like somebody who hasn't had their morning coffee. I personally am not ruling out brain damage from amphetamine based ADHD drugs-I was on Ritalin, and Ritalin/Adderall prescriptions are everywhere nowadays. It's like giving your kid meth as far as I'm concerned. There are behavioral interventions and non-stimulant drugs that work just as well now, but kids keep popping the legal speed.

The trolling is wearing me down, I cant take it anymore

Having a whine here is still better than shooting up the school, eh JJ?

I have a lot to get off my chest too. Give them a break and allow them the expression they need to express

So, by your logic, if you fail at life, it's acceptable to kill those who haven't failed?



I seriously hope this is just an attempt at trolling.

I CALLED IT. But uttering that word breaks rules 'round here...

If fasting qualifies as a diet, then atheism qualifies as a religion. It's borderline. Atheism is certainly a philosophical outlook on life, just like any religion is.

Incidentally, I am a BME major, and I talk to scientists and science students all the time. Religion is only a little less common among scientists than among the general population. I only know a few actual atheist scientists--the furthest most will go is agnostic of the "We can't tell whether God exists" flavor. The majority are religious, everything from Christianity to Buddhism to Islam, with more than a few having put together their own unique viewpoints that don't fit into any given box. So, I respectfully request you stop calling my professors and fellow students "stupid sheep". They could probably do advanced math in circles around the vast majority of us, and they are not the kind of people who believe things without thinking about them first. In fact, I think the striking variety in our religious beliefs may come from the fact that we do question first before believing anything--our faith is our own, not anyone else's.

I'm a very upbeat person like Austin Powers.

I don't think brain damage is likely on most prescription stimulants. They're typically safer than Tylenol.

The non-stimulant medications do not work as well.

Behavioral interventions don't work. If you do behavioral interventions with ADHD children in a particular place, then they only work in that one place. If you try to do them in a place where they spend a lot of time (like school) they last until the interventions stop. Further, the interventions simply do not work as well as medication with interventions.

There's a lot of negative mythology and propaganda about ADHD and stimulant medications. The vast majority of it is wrong.

Ritalin may very well have been wrong for you. It's entirely possible. That doesn't mean it's bad across the board, though. It's a life-saver for other people I know.

Okay. Austin isn't real, but I wanted to make my point.