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12 Jun 2011, 6:44 pm

I guess what I don't understand is why people need celebrities in the first place. Why do they need to know someone or why do they think they know them? Why do they need to talk about others and go on and on about them? Usually it's for no other reason except the way the person who is a celebrity looks. Their appearance is what people focus on. I don't understand the superficiality of that. What does it matter? Why is it so important. What one does with their life should be why people talk. If someone does something that benefits others, talk about that person in a positive way. Focus on them, exclusively, instead of wasting time on the unimportant, trivial and meaningless.
I watch the show Project Runway from time to time and am astonished at how the models are handled with kid gloves compared to the designers who actually created a garment from scratch. When a model is eliminated, Heidi is so sweet and seems sad for the model but when a designer is eliminated, she doesn't seem to care. I don't understand why the designers are treated like that when they are the ones making the effort to create. Even if what they create isn't to Michael Kors liking, at least have some respect for the artist bringing forth something from nothing.



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12 Jun 2011, 7:00 pm

I tend to focus on the darker side of things...I don't care about who the most popular celebrity I find it intresting how great musicians like Syd Barret for instance just wanted to express their art but where overwhelmed by all the drama that comes with fame. so that being said a lot of the music I like is not very mainstream I like music that expresses something. Then of course you have artists like Ronnie James Dio who where able to kind of stay out of the spotlight while still gaining a lot of fans who where passionate about the music. I mean I feel like I am lucky to have seen him in concert during his last tour, I think he died before it was completed but it was one of the best concerts I've ever been to.



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12 Jun 2011, 7:06 pm

Um, don't go thinking I was trying to say Mozart is better than Britney Speares or something like that. My second-favorite composer besides Beethoven is Eminem, so it's very silly to say that I am high-brow or low-brow or any-sort-of-brow.

But okay, let's use my example of Eminem so that this topic doesn't trigger the high-brow comments, and we can use low-brow examples instead.

Eminem is my favorite living artist, but I don't go around trying to read things about his wife or his lawsuits and whatnot. Why should people pry into his private life? And if he walked right up to me and shook my hand, I wouldn't feel impressed or honored. I would feel pleased to meet him, yes, but what I fail to get is the sensation that he is famous. I mean, if some obscure slum kid spat lyrics like this and I heard him, I'd be equally impressed to meet that kid as to meet a triple-platinum rap star.

Their talent does not escape me, but their celebrity status is simply meaningless to me. I feel celebrity-blind. Kind of like color-blind.



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12 Jun 2011, 7:18 pm

When I was living in a very small town, bored and having no true friends, I used to buy those stupid tabloids because I enjoyed reading about celebrities f***ing up. Like, "ha, they are rich and famous but are probably more miserable than I am at the moment!". But then I decided to stop wasting my time and money on such useless garbage. Celebrities that I actually like include Maynard James Keenan from the band Tool, Marilyn Manson, Ozzy, Juliette Lewis, Johnny Depp, Angelina Jolie, Winona Ryder, Alex Gray (a painter who is still alive), Anthony Hopkins, Tim Burton, Christina Ricci, I could go on and on. In my opinion THOSE celebrities are genuinely talented and don't make me feel like I am losing brain cells when I pay attention to them. I've also been fascinated with Charlie Manson recently, he is pretty messed up but he is very intelligent and entertaining. He counts as a celebrity, right?



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12 Jun 2011, 7:27 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
I tend to focus on the darker side of things...I don't care about who the most popular celebrity I find it intresting how great musicians like Syd Barret for instance just wanted to express their art but where overwhelmed by all the drama that comes with fame. so that being said a lot of the music I like is not very mainstream I like music that expresses something. Then of course you have artists like Ronnie James Dio who where able to kind of stay out of the spotlight while still gaining a lot of fans who where passionate about the music. I mean I feel like I am lucky to have seen him in concert during his last tour, I think he died before it was completed but it was one of the best concerts I've ever been to.


Ah, I'm jealous. Dio was the man! He was belting out those songs well into his sixties... Ozzy's voice (not to mention integrity) hasn't held up half as well as his did.



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12 Jun 2011, 7:29 pm

I really don't follow celebrity culture despite the fact I stay up-to-date with pop culture (films, music, etc). My philosophy behind this is that I choose to respect their privacy since everyone else really doesn't.

One time, my cousin's then-fiance was in town and we went to a movie. Afterward in the lobby, we were waiting for our family members to get out of the bathroom when I noticed him staring over at a crowd gathered. I glanced over to see what he was looking at and it was Vince Vaughn. I turned back to him, assuming he was wondering if it really was him, and simply said "Yes, that's him" and didn't give the crowd another thought until we left the theater.



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12 Jun 2011, 7:39 pm

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I've never in my life seen the point of celebrities or why anyone else found them the least bit interesting.

Let's say, ta-da! they find out that some actress used to be a porn star. Big whop-de-do. Who cares? I've never met this actress and probably never will. Her life doesn't affect me in any way. What difference does it make to me whether she was a porn star or a neurosurgeon or a lobster fisherman? What makes people care about this?

And then you have some rock star up on stage and girls are going into hysterics over him. Why? My favorite composer is Beethoven, but even if he reincarnated and played a live concert, I wouldn't try to throw myself onto him onstage?! This behavior seems exceedingly odd. Are they whipped up into some sort of hypnotic mob lust-frenzy?

I don't know, I can't understand why I am expected to pay more attention to famous people than to obscure people. Why is it considered weird to discuss the life story of Mozart or Dostoyevsky, but normal to discuss the life story (in minute detail!) of Michael Jackson or Britney Speares?

Is my immunity to celebrities related to my AS? Do most Aspies feel similar to me? Does this make sense?


oh la-dee-da, you do not understand why we proles like Britney while your refined exquisite tastes choose fine and proper Mozart

Sorry but I'm getting a hint of condescension on your part, that people who enjoy discussing Michael Jacksons life are "low brow" compared to you intelligent conversations.

I don't understand where you get the idea that MollyTroubletail insulted celebrity culture, she just said she didn't understand the difference between them as far as I understood her.

I don't understand the need to know everything about someone I don't know personally and don't really think much about but when I regularly talked to other women I was asked my opinion about what so-and-so did and why did I think she/he did that. My reaction of who is that person (either non-verbally or verbally) generally had a puzzeled response, I drew a baffled response when I said that I wasn't really bothered with them.

I can like an actors work but I have no interest in their personal life. If some sports guy/girl has an affair, why do some people expect me to care? I'm not into sports that you can watch apart from martial arts stuff and even then I wouldn't be able name anyone because I'm not that interested.

Nineteen Eighty-Four, George Orwell, proles?


point taken

proles is in reference to 1984 yes, short of proleteriat - the working class.


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12 Jun 2011, 7:42 pm

I tend to like celebrities who actually earn their way to where they are (unlike many spoiled brat stars I could mention), and who come across as intelligent and humble. I've met some people who are well known on a "cult" level and that has always been awesome to me, but I guess the most famous person I've met was Sean Yseult, when I saw her post-White Zombie band Rock City Morgue. She is very nice and down to earth. Anyway.. I like the celebrities who treat their fans as peers and don't have a superiority complex.



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12 Jun 2011, 7:57 pm

Obviously I can't speak for others, but I personally don't care for celebrities of any kind.



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12 Jun 2011, 8:51 pm

I am not the least bit interested in most celebrities or what they do, any more than I am interested in anyone else. I don't know which shows are on tv, which movies are in the theatre, who is married to who or even which songs are on the radio.
I generally become interested in what a person does, before I know who they are in culture. For example, I became interested in Dan Aykroyd because of his interest/involvement with paranormal matters. Then I watched his movies because I wanted to see what else he did. I don't care who is popular or who wore what dress, or who is having babies with who.


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12 Jun 2011, 9:02 pm

I am an NT, and I don't really get that obsessed with stars, but my newest obsession is James Durbin from American Idol. He rocks and I can't wait to see where his music career goes from here. Do any of you Aspies like him?



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13 Jun 2011, 1:57 am

I dont give a crap about their off spring though.......cept if its people who can stand on their own feet like Brandon Lee or Michael Douglas (Lee is prolly not the best example since hes been DEAD for 18 yrs......an example nonetheless)

Not really surprised about Arnies shenanigans.......hes done some stupid stuff in the past that he prolly regrets , even so I consider him a vital piece of 80s action films......no one can take that away from him.



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13 Jun 2011, 3:46 am

I sometimes find what happens in their life interesting. Some things are shocking. But lot of times I think "Did I really need to know that?" But I don't have that much interest or else I'd be looking them up all the time. The cover has to catch my interest for me to read the story. I know that is the company's intent. They want to catch people's attention so they will buy the magazine and read the story because they are curious. But I read it in stores when I can. I used to read celeb mags at work. Now at my current job, there aren't any unless one of the co workers brings them in and leaves it on the table in the break room.



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13 Jun 2011, 4:11 am

I'm not in the least bit interested in the private lives of celebrities. I take note of work they have produced and decide whether I like it or not, but that's all. As for people who are famous just for being famous (those who don't tend to do much but are in the papers all the time because of their private lives), I can't understand why anyone cares enough to read about them.



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13 Jun 2011, 6:04 am

There are some celebrities I admire for their talent, such as Björk, Kate Bush, Siouxsie Sioux, etc. But there are none who I would obsess over or scream in a mosh pit for (not that I would go anywhere near a concert).



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13 Jun 2011, 7:28 am

I look up to Mick Avory. The thing about Mick is that he's a rare breed of celebrity from an innocent time and he was innocent for his time. He's not like the celebrities that I see flashed on the TV screen and plastered on magazine pages.


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