Something i have noticed on this site!

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15 Jun 2011, 10:15 am

I've never come across bad AS people like what you speak of but I have encountered lots of people who are bad and could be NT. As far as I know, they are NT and they are completely mean.
Most of what I read here is mild compared to other sites. People here are much tamer. Maybe it's because of good modding?



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15 Jun 2011, 10:20 am

Im in this thread because i dont want to be a bad person.



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15 Jun 2011, 10:25 am

True you get some very nasty people



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15 Jun 2011, 10:33 am

Jamesy wrote:
But at the same time i have come across some really nasty posters on wrong planet (not going to mention any names). A lot more nasty than bad NT people i encounter on other forums and websites outside of wrong planet.


On what basis are you considering them nasty?

The reason I ask, is because I was accused as being nasty on another site. The topic was on having children and I replied to someone that I knew would be a good parent, and I wrote that if they could not give birth to children to their own, they would became very nice foster parents to children who need a loving family.

Then another person, that I don't know, said that it vas a very nasty thing to say. It turned out that they had tried to adopt a child, but because of some issues they had been denied adoption.

Now, I was not being nasty, obviously. But the other person was insulted because of their previous disappointment and because of that interpreted me as being nasty.


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15 Jun 2011, 10:44 am

I base them as being nasty when even trying to turn over a new leaf with them they just will not stop being horrible.

i understand as well thought that i can provoke some people on this website



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15 Jun 2011, 10:46 am

I know if someone posts something that pisses me off or offends me I will show them no mercy when I post a reply to their posts. :P


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15 Jun 2011, 11:16 am

There are certainly a few very blunt people on here, who will say exactly what they think without sugarcoating it. I'm not sure if that is rigidity, frustration, or a need to be honest all the time.

I think some aspies might see it as a virtue to be completely honest with their opinion, unlike NTs who might hide their true opinion more readily.

While I agree honesty is important I also think that this style of posting can be hurtful, especially to younger people, or someone who is feeling depressed or upset already.

Having said that, the internet as a whole can be quite a harsh place. Societal norms of behaviour seem to 'go out of the window'. And WP is one of the least harsh forums I have come across. There are lots of very thoughtful posters too, who put a lot of effort into trying to make others feel welcome.



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15 Jun 2011, 11:20 am

Jamesy wrote:
I think basicly some posters with AS are just too obssessed with being 'honest', telling the truth and saying what they think too much regardless of weather it is mean or not. A typical aspsgers trait of course.

If you go onto the love and dating section of this site and say "Females with aspergers have it a lot easier than males with aspergers in the dating world" the women on that part of the site will go abosulty ape sh** because they can't stand hearing the truth. not saying they are 'nasty' or anything but they can become abusive and rude if you post things like that. just another examnple of bad posting experience i have come across on this site.


Okay, but do you see the mistake you made here? If Aspies are obsessed with the truth, then wouldn't female Aspies be, as well? And if that's so, then we're not going ape s**t over the bolded part because it's true, we're going ape s**t over it because it is your perception of the truth and not a factual truth at all. And it does not correspond to our experiences.

If someone is mean to you, I suggest that it is due to your misperceptions and how they hurt other people, not meanness for meanness' sake. And you are quite repetitive. Many times I've read your posts and wanted to respond, "What? Is your Google finger broken?" or "Why are you asking the same goddamned question again?" Then there's the time that I did respond to your inquiry about exercise and nutrition with thoughtful posts, only to find out that you wanted to get stronger so that you could beat people up. Can you see how that's exasperating to someone else?



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15 Jun 2011, 11:21 am

Yeah there are considerate posters on here. some posters though just seem to say horrible without hesitation at all.

maybe there just overhasty or think there acting in a saintly way by telling the truth how it is when in reality there just being mean?



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15 Jun 2011, 11:29 am

NT or AS doesn't really matter in this respect. All people have a personality and some people just choose to be a**holes.

Most folks here have some difficulty in communication - go figure. It would do everyone well to keep that in the forefront of their mind before flying off the handle.



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15 Jun 2011, 11:45 am

communication problems? When you post its a lot easier to communicate and you have time to edit and think through what your posting. there is no real excuse to say inconsiderate things when posting unless your setting out to be horrible on purpouse or you don't realise how your coming across?

I never said i wanted to beat people up did I? I just said i wanted too get stronger thats all......... i suppouse you can get fed up and exzassperated in forums but its not quite the same as someone making you fed up outside off the net is it?



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15 Jun 2011, 12:02 pm

Jamesy wrote:
communication problems? When you post its a lot easier to communicate and you have time to edit and think through what your posting. there is no real excuse to say inconsiderate things when posting unless your setting out to be horrible on purpouse or you don't realise how your coming across?


Wasn't responding to you specifically, Jamesy.

I find that even in this written form people tend to get meanings very very wrong. If someone is insulted by something they read, they may draft a scathing response and hit send before they A) cool down and make sure they really read what they read and B) had the chance to ask the offending poster about their motive.. But that kind of miscommunication happens all over - not just here. It's just that here, specifically, I think we all need to be more cognizant of it considering our collective communication difficulties.



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15 Jun 2011, 12:09 pm

Jamesy wrote:
If you go onto the love and dating section of this site and say "Females with aspergers have it a lot easier than males with aspergers in the dating world" the women on that part of the site will go abosulty ape sh** because they can't stand hearing the truth. not saying they are 'nasty' or anything but they can become abusive and rude if you post things like that.


I disagree. I think the reason that the women react like that is because you are stating your own opinion as though it were fact. :P

You clearly believe your own opinion to be the truth, but so do most people who have opinions! :lol:



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15 Jun 2011, 12:10 pm

Sometimes I am too blunt and abrupt, usually when I want to get a word in before I run out the door and I'm late. I am sorry for those I have offended that way.



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15 Jun 2011, 12:12 pm

i even tried to email and apologise to a poster who was not very nice to me but she just did not respond to my emails at all. this was mean of me but when she did not respond too my emails i sent her an abusive email back :(



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15 Jun 2011, 1:19 pm

I have only seen a very few nasty people here. One of them was banned. If I come across any nasty people, I just don't talk to them ever again. It doesn't matter if they appear nice in their posts, I still think of them as nasty people. Nasty people can have a nice charm you know. They can be nice to certain people and be nasty to others. That's the way it works.

Back in the days I used to get in fights with other users because they be mean to me for no reason so I fight back.

Heck I have been called a troll here too and been told my posts have been reported because they didn't like my opinions but luckily nothing was done and I was told I insulted members here and did personal attacks. But then again that person may have been lying to get back at me. I have even gotten accused I like to provoke people.

Maybe I am too aspie here or too blunt. I was told I just speak my mind. I am not here to upset people or to piss them off. If anyone doesn't like what I post, feel free to not read them or to use greasemonkey to block out my posts. I would rather be ignored than be picked on.

I realize some members here have issues so it may not be me at all and it's them with the problem and I didn't do anything so it's not AS, it's them. Some members feel attacked when you don't agree with them so they are going to think of you as a bully. Same as people who ask a question and then get an honest answer they didn't like, they are going to say you were rude or a bully. Now those are nasty people.

I have been at Babycenter and that place is a lot worse than this place. Women there are very nasty and act like bullies. I even learned there we are to stay ignorant because we must not ask questions about what choices people make or it's called judging. That must be a social rule we have here and it's very strange. I guess we are not allowed to learn and understand. But it is sure a lot safer here to ask questions because you won't get as many hostile responses and people act more rational here and it's not as bad as it is over there. Now that is the difference between an aspie forum and an NT forum. Oh yeah I once got told to grow up by a few women when I said that place is no safe to ask questions and I thought it be a safe place for it.
If you like drama go there and you see all these drama threads. I find them fun to read. Sometimes they piss me off because of all the stupidity. But hey at least it's how I learn social skills and more TOM. But there is sure more drama in the birthclubs for upcoming babies because women in them are pregnant so they act like b*****s, must be their hormones. But in the older birthclubs, it's more calmer. Less drama.

But what do we mean by nasty here?