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17 Jun 2011, 2:59 am

My problem with the DSM-IV description of what considered stimming in general is that it seems to exclude a wide variety of other forms of possible stimming.

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(C) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g. hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)

For example, it doesn't include touch, smells (incl. self), biting or licking body parts, visual stimming using objects, patterns. I would consider sounds and music too (espec. repetitive ones), and such activities like running, cycling and swimming which consist of repetitive movements.


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17 Jun 2011, 11:21 am

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So chewing on things would be considered a stim?

I chew on things as well and it helps me think.

I've never had hair long enough to chew on though.


Stimming is a self-stimulating, repetitive behavior people with Autism become stuck with. As every person with AS is different, there is a long list of behaviors that can be considered stims. I found a every interesting list of stims in which children have engaged, in this link: http://www.ican-do.net/stim_list.htm. This list is not a complete list of all possible stims. It is designed to give you an idea of what behaviors function as sensory play. My daughter performed some of these behaviors (obsessive pencil sharpening, shredding paper -paper napkins-, running in circles, talking to self, echolalia, throat sound, repeating a video scene over and over -still does that, but less frequently-, biting fingernails), but her worst stim is not in the list.



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17 Jun 2011, 11:26 am

OJani wrote:
My problem with the DSM-IV description of what considered stimming in general is that it seems to exclude a wide variety of other forms of possible stimming.
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(C) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g. hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)

For example, it doesn't include touch, smells (incl. self), biting or licking body parts, visual stimming using objects, patterns. I would consider sounds and music too (espec. repetitive ones), and such activities like running, cycling and swimming which consist of repetitive movements.


e.g. is supposed to mean exempli gratia, which is a Latin phrase that means "for example." So those are meant to be examples, not strict definitions.



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17 Jun 2011, 11:33 am

Ilka wrote:
liveandletdie wrote:
So chewing on things would be considered a stim?

I chew on things as well and it helps me think.

I've never had hair long enough to chew on though.


Stimming is a self-stimulating, repetitive behavior people with Autism become stuck with. As every person with AS is different, there is a long list of behaviors that can be considered stims. I found a every interesting list of stims in which children have engaged, in this link: http://www.ican-do.net/stim_list.htm. This list is not a complete list of all possible stims. It is designed to give you an idea of what behaviors function as sensory play. My daughter performed some of these behaviors (obsessive pencil sharpening, shredding paper -paper napkins-, running in circles, talking to self, echolalia, throat sound, repeating a video scene over and over -still does that, but less frequently-, biting fingernails), but her worst stim is not in the list.



I find stim lists interesting in the way they tend to say that stims always relate to a particular sense. Like, hand flapping is listed as "visual" on one list. But for me it's tactile, proprioceptive, and visual all at once.

I'm not thinking of this list. There was something else a friend showed me when I told him I thought I was autistic. He kept classifying my stims as falling into certain categories even though he'd never seen me do them.



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17 Jun 2011, 5:45 pm

Verdandi wrote:
OJani wrote:
My problem with the DSM-IV description of what considered stimming in general is that it seems to exclude a wide variety of other forms of possible stimming.
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(C) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g. hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)

For example, it doesn't include touch, smells (incl. self), biting or licking body parts, visual stimming using objects, patterns. I would consider sounds and music too (espec. repetitive ones), and such activities like running, cycling and swimming which consist of repetitive movements.


e.g. is supposed to mean exempli gratia, which is a Latin phrase that means "for example." So those are meant to be examples, not strict definitions.

Ok, my post might be somewhat misleading, "stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms" is what I probably don't understand well. I suppose it is much narrower than (for example) the list Ilka linked above or the examples in my post. Btw, the stim list should include biting lips too, I do that very frequently.



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17 Jun 2011, 7:36 pm

I believe I stim as much as ever, now. I stimmed all my life, I think, but only in the past several months did I learn what it was called....
I think, according to the DSM-IV, that stimming is usually considered as a possibility that you have AS.


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17 Jun 2011, 11:29 pm

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I meow like a cat from time to time.


OMG me too, I try to keep it discreet, but sometimes I get the urge when me and my boyfriend are sitting and watching TV, and I usually tell him I'm going to do it, and he freaks LMAO



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17 Jun 2011, 11:44 pm

I stim as much as I ever did. Not in public, though - only at home.



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18 Jun 2011, 12:06 am

I stim all of the time that I am awake and not focused and possibly also when I am asleep. I have a bad habit of waking up to find myself banging my head against the wall. I can bang my head 3 or 4 times before I am awake enough to stop. Is this stimming?

I also stim regardless of where I am. I didn't even know that rocking back and forth for 20 minutes while eating lunch in public was considered weird. I don't stim when I am focusing on something. I only know this because I am extremely stiff after the fun ends. Maybe there are no brain resources to engender physical movements when the brain is being used for better (or worser) purposes. My favorite animal noises to make are the crow caw, "Aflac", and "Kalifornia" the way The Governator says it.


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18 Jun 2011, 12:11 am

btbnnyr wrote:
I stim all of the time that I am awake and not focused and possibly also when I am asleep. I have a bad habit of waking up to find myself banging my head against the wall. I can bang my head 3 or 4 times before I am awake enough to stop. Is this stimming?

I also stim regardless of where I am. I didn't even know that rocking back and forth for 20 minutes while eating lunch in public was considered weird. I don't stim when I am focusing on something. I only know this because I am extremely stiff after the fun ends. Maybe there are no brain resources to engender physical movements when the brain is being used for better (or worser) purposes. My favorite animal noises to make are the crow caw, "Aflac", and "Kalifornia" the way The Governator says it.


Ya "aflac" has a nice satisfaction about it.


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