Would you take the cure or be killed?

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Would you be cured or killed?
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21 Jun 2011, 4:14 pm

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Considering that this is a real threat as it is the goal of Autism Speaks, I would agree in getting the rifle rather than die or be 'cured.'


In this scenario, we'd need to strike while morale is high. If we lose hope, it's all over. If we went into battle with lost hope, it'd be over before it even began.


Hope is such an NT thing. Once fixated on the special interest of overthrowing a tyrannical government, there would be no quarter.


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21 Jun 2011, 4:19 pm

I believe the saying goes, "Give me liberty or give me death!"

I would be killed.



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21 Jun 2011, 4:19 pm

If that happened I'm sure there would be some sort of resistance, like in Vichy France. I would join the resistance if I didn't get killed outright. I wouldn't want to be cured. An NT existence seems quite shallow.

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As the Mexican Revolutionary Emiliano Zapata stated, "I would rather die standing than live on my knees."

Dolores Ibarurri, a woman who fought against the Fascists in the Spanish Civil War said almost the same thing. 'It is better to die standing up, than to live forever on your knees.' Perhaps she was quoting him.



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21 Jun 2011, 4:30 pm

If there was a cure, it would also kill "me" because I am who I am because of my autism. I'd rather be dead than join the ranks of a race I don't identify with.


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21 Jun 2011, 4:32 pm

Personally, I think the idea is kind of redundant. They might be able to do something someday that prevents the autism gene from being switched "on" as much as it is today, but I do not believe they will ever cure someone who is already alive of autism. It is a different wiring in the brain. They can hope and pray all they want, thinking our lives aren't worth living the way we are now, but the truth is that you can not alter someone's wiring in their brain without destroying who they are. I cannot even fathom a cure or what it would be like to be an NT. All I know is how to be autistic, and if someone thinks my life isn't worth living because I have autism, then that is there problem, not mine.



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21 Jun 2011, 4:37 pm

Poirot wrote:
Considering that this is a real threat as it is the goal of Autism Speaks, I would agree in getting the rifle rather than die or be 'cured.' Why would you cure someone for who they are if you would also deplore 'curing' someone for their race or sexual orientation.

As the Mexican Revolutionary Emiliano Zapata stated, "I would rather die standing than live on my knees."


I was taught gun saftey from a young age as well as how to use one. If autism speaks regime ever comes to my door demanding I take their cure, I'm going to pop a cap in their ass.


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21 Jun 2011, 4:42 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
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In this scenario, we'd need to strike while morale is high. If we lose hope, it's all over. If we went into battle with lost hope, it'd be over before it even began.


We can make it our special interest. No chance of losing hope or giving up then.


That's the spirit! :)



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21 Jun 2011, 4:47 pm

Theres no point in living in a monochrome world. Enough said.



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21 Jun 2011, 4:59 pm

Heck, I have TS and OCD rather than AS, but I figure we'd be on the same truck together. That or tossed under the truck's wheels. To quote one of my heroes, "I yam what I yam." No cure, no quarter.



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21 Jun 2011, 5:33 pm

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Let's say a cure for autism was developed and all the goverments of the world have decided to force it upon all the autistic people of the world regardless of their level of functning or acomplishments. If you do not take it, you will be killed. Which would you choose? Me? I'd probably just pop a cap in the ass of the person trying to make me take the cure but if I didn't have a gun or weapon, I'd just let them pop a cap in mine.


I choose not to take part in poll if it is worthless. :roll: It would never happen. What if a blue gorilla jumped out of your butt and kick you in the nuts? This is more likely to happen. :roll:


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21 Jun 2011, 5:46 pm

Todesking wrote:
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Let's say a cure for autism was developed and all the goverments of the world have decided to force it upon all the autistic people of the world regardless of their level of functning or acomplishments. If you do not take it, you will be killed. Which would you choose? Me? I'd probably just pop a cap in the ass of the person trying to make me take the cure but if I didn't have a gun or weapon, I'd just let them pop a cap in mine.


I choose not to take part in poll if it is worthless. :roll: It would never happen. What if a blue gorilla jumped out of your butt and kick you in the nuts? This is more likely to happen. :roll:


The Nazis went after the "mentally ill" and "ret*d" as well as Jews, homosexuals and Roma. It's already happened once. It is overwhelmingly likely to happen again.

edit: to be "cured" would be worse than being killed, in my opinion. I wouldn't want their cure any more than I'd want a lobotomy. It's all just another mechanism of enslavement.



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21 Jun 2011, 5:55 pm

aelf wrote:
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Let's say a cure for autism was developed and all the goverments of the world have decided to force it upon all the autistic people of the world regardless of their level of functning or acomplishments. If you do not take it, you will be killed. Which would you choose? Me? I'd probably just pop a cap in the ass of the person trying to make me take the cure but if I didn't have a gun or weapon, I'd just let them pop a cap in mine.


I choose not to take part in poll if it is worthless. :roll: It would never happen. What if a blue gorilla jumped out of your butt and kick you in the nuts? This is more likely to happen. :roll:


The Nazis went after the "mentally ill" and "ret*d" as well as Jews, homosexuals and Roma. It's already happened once. It is overwhelmingly likely to happen again.


Where are the nazis today as a government? Where did they end up, either executed or a fugitive in latin America running from the Jewish nazi hunters. Look at their followes they have today skinhead speed freak wife beaters. I doubt those guys could run their trailer parks let alone a government hell bent on the final solution to autism. :roll:


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21 Jun 2011, 6:16 pm

I think it is unlikely to happen. If it did, I'd take the cure, be miserable for a while, then see improvements in some areas of my life (from an NT POV) and declines in others. For example, I could probably get a girlfriend and eventually marry if I was NT, but I'd waste a lot of time socialising that I could spend getting good at something.



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21 Jun 2011, 6:25 pm

Todesking wrote:
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Let's say a cure for autism was developed and all the goverments of the world have decided to force it upon all the autistic people of the world regardless of their level of functning or acomplishments. If you do not take it, you will be killed. Which would you choose? Me? I'd probably just pop a cap in the ass of the person trying to make me take the cure but if I didn't have a gun or weapon, I'd just let them pop a cap in mine.


I choose not to take part in poll if it is worthless. :roll: It would never happen. What if a blue gorilla jumped out of your butt and kick you in the nuts? This is more likely to happen. :roll:


You're right in that it'll probably never happen, but sometimes it's worth it to imagine hypothetical possibilities in a hypothetical situation.



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21 Jun 2011, 6:33 pm

There is already a cure for autism. It is called oppressing the autistic. Bosses are instructed to fire autistic workers. Teachers constantly slam autistics with bad grades. The hope is that with enough discrimination the autistic will change his ways.



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21 Jun 2011, 6:38 pm

Todesking wrote:
Where are the nazis today as a government? Where did they end up, either executed or a fugitive in latin America running from the Jewish nazi hunters. Look at their followes they have today skinhead speed freak wife beaters. I doubt those guys could run their trailer parks let alone a government hell bent on the final solution to autism. :roll:


Continuity of the Nazi lineage is irrelevant to the issue. The underlying potentials are still present in people across the world. In the US alone, recent years have seen plenty of dehumanizing scapegoating and racial profiling, acceptance of authoritarian executive power expansion in over-reaction to terrorist threats, populist opinion heavily under the sway of charismatic leaders, and social divisiveness and blame for the bad state of the economy. From both the left *and* the right.

And as regards the possibility of the Autie Cure Ultimatum, there is additionally the pervasive and almost unquestioned belief throughout the first world that people can be "cured" of these kinds of differences and that it is right to do so.

Although to be fair, it's probably more likely that a pre-natal selection "cure" will arise first in China, considering their history in sexual selection.