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04 Aug 2011, 10:29 pm

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What about Badassburger syndrome?


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On a slightly more serious note, I don't see the need to differentiate ourselves from the rest of the Auties. Why can't we all just be autistic and leave it at that?



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04 Aug 2011, 10:29 pm

Dont think it needs renaming that word has become known BUT more education is needed as so many see aspergers as being geniuses which makes it hard to get the help needed.



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04 Aug 2011, 10:32 pm

Megz wrote:
SammichEater wrote:
What about Badassburger syndrome?


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On a slightly more serious note, I don't see the need to differentiate ourselves from the rest of the Auties. Why can't we all just be autistic and leave it at that?
Yeah, dumping "ass burgers" is one of the many benefits of using "autism" generically. :) Poor Hans Asperger; he didn't know how awkward his name sounds in English...


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04 Aug 2011, 11:08 pm

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What is it with people being so utterly obsessed with finding somebody they can lock lips with? Really? There's more to life than that.


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I don't get it either.


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04 Aug 2011, 11:29 pm

How about Social disorder? People who tend to take things literal and fail to read between the lines and have a low social IQ, failure to pick up on social cues, problems with relating to others and making friends. Relationships are difficult and failure to make friends at a peer developmental level, pretty much everything from the first part of the AS criteria. And this isn't just social awkwardness or geek syndrome or nerdy. Just people who have poor social skills like autistic people have.



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04 Aug 2011, 11:48 pm

tisme wrote:
Dont think it needs renaming that word has become known BUT more education is needed as so many see aspergers as being geniuses which makes it hard to get the help needed.


Depending on which country you are in the autism gradient scale will be a function of how much $$ funding support you receive.

The DSMV changes have less to do with science and more to do with economics and family support,



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05 Aug 2011, 4:15 am

Sukhareva Syndrome?



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05 Aug 2011, 4:44 am

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What is it with people being so utterly obsessed with finding somebody they can lock lips with? Really? There's more to life than that.


Perhaps if you weren't asexual you would know how much it means and how it is thel ife goal of so many people.

That there is more to life then love is certainly true, i am not sure that there is anything better though.


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05 Aug 2011, 5:19 am

Phonic wrote:
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What is it with people being so utterly obsessed with finding somebody they can lock lips with? Really? There's more to life than that.


Perhaps if you weren't asexual you would know how much it means and how it is thel ife goal of so many people.

That there is more to life then love is certainly true, i am not sure that there is anything better though.


I'm not asexual and I think there's more to life and that there are plenty of things as good as or better than love without the stress and confusion that come with it.


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05 Aug 2011, 5:29 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
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What is it with people being so utterly obsessed with finding somebody they can lock lips with? Really? There's more to life than that.


Perhaps if you weren't asexual you would know how much it means and how it is thel ife goal of so many people.

That there is more to life then love is certainly true, i am not sure that there is anything better though.


I'm not asexual and I think there's more to life and that there are plenty of things as good as or better than love without the stress and confusion that come with it.


Sure there are things better, but they are also much harder to attain and think about. Of course you have different levels of love too but falling in love initially is not that hard. These things also differ much more then love differs from one person to another. Also love is a much more mainstream thing, everyone knows about love. Love is advertised because it makes money. In order to make a serious relationship work you are told you need money and you need to buy gifts etc.
But what about spirituality or finding fulfillment in the things you do when you are not with your loved one. It is a much more abstract topic to talk about.



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05 Aug 2011, 5:46 am

TB wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Phonic wrote:
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What is it with people being so utterly obsessed with finding somebody they can lock lips with? Really? There's more to life than that.


Perhaps if you weren't asexual you would know how much it means and how it is thel ife goal of so many people.

That there is more to life then love is certainly true, i am not sure that there is anything better though.


I'm not asexual and I think there's more to life and that there are plenty of things as good as or better than love without the stress and confusion that come with it.


Sure there are things better, but they are also much harder to attain and think about. Of course you have different levels of love too but falling in love initially is not that hard. These things also differ much more then love differs from one person to another. Also love is a much more mainstream thing, everyone knows about love. Love is advertised because it makes money. In order to make a serious relationship work you are told you need money and you need to buy gifts etc.
But what about spirituality or finding fulfillment in the things you do when you are not with your loved one. It is a much more abstract topic to talk about.


lol. There's something that's more complicated and difficult than humans?

And I don't see what being able to talk about things or them being mainstream has to do with either their difficulty or their worth. If I had to talk about something that enjoy/understand it I'd be screwed.


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05 Aug 2011, 6:21 am

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Or we could just wait until DSM-V comes out and "asperger's" is no longer a diagnosis.


Only in countries where the DSM is applicable You'd think from reading around here that the DSM was the first and last word. It is published by the American Psychiatric Association.



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05 Aug 2011, 6:34 am

Callista wrote:
Megz wrote:
SammichEater wrote:
What about Badassburger syndrome?


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On a slightly more serious note, I don't see the need to differentiate ourselves from the rest of the Auties. Why can't we all just be autistic and leave it at that?
Yeah, dumping "ass burgers" is one of the many benefits of using "autism" generically. :) Poor Hans Asperger; he didn't know how awkward his name sounds in English...


North American English, yes. Ass is an animal in British English so Aspergers doesn't really sound awkward at all.



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05 Aug 2011, 7:38 am

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It should be called 'unable to get a girlfriend syndrome'.


That would just end up getting us confused with Trekkies.


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I hate the word Asperger because it sound so... german. Don't get me wrong I love german people. BUT the word sounds so intimidating and scary. I don't mind an acornym like AS though. Saying I have "AS" is so much better for me.



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05 Aug 2011, 8:04 am

Callista wrote:
Megz wrote:
SammichEater wrote:
What about Badassburger syndrome?


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On a slightly more serious note, I don't see the need to differentiate ourselves from the rest of the Auties. Why can't we all just be autistic and leave it at that?
Yeah, dumping "ass burgers" is one of the many benefits of using "autism" generically. :) Poor Hans Asperger; he didn't know how awkward his name sounds in English...


The Dutch word for asparagus is asperge. This leads to some very bad jokes as well.

This is kind of like the DSM-V thread and my feelings are similar to there: dropping Asperger's does not seem to be much of a problem, but it's problematic in that Asperger's has some good reputation (if you are a "little professor", people cut you some slack) that would be bad to lose.


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05 Aug 2011, 9:22 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
TB wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Phonic wrote:
Callista wrote:
What is it with people being so utterly obsessed with finding somebody they can lock lips with? Really? There's more to life than that.


Perhaps if you weren't asexual you would know how much it means and how it is thel ife goal of so many people.

That there is more to life then love is certainly true, i am not sure that there is anything better though.


I'm not asexual and I think there's more to life and that there are plenty of things as good as or better than love without the stress and confusion that come with it.


Sure there are things better, but they are also much harder to attain and think about. Of course you have different levels of love too but falling in love initially is not that hard. These things also differ much more then love differs from one person to another. Also love is a much more mainstream thing, everyone knows about love. Love is advertised because it makes money. In order to make a serious relationship work you are told you need money and you need to buy gifts etc.
But what about spirituality or finding fulfillment in the things you do when you are not with your loved one. It is a much more abstract topic to talk about.


lol. There's something that's more complicated and difficult than humans?

And I don't see what being able to talk about things or them being mainstream has to do with either their difficulty or their worth. If I had to talk about something that enjoy/understand it I'd be screwed.


Im not talking about external things im talking about happines and fulfillment like it says in the last line. I never talked about anything outside humans that is better then love. I do not think you understand what i am trying to say.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s ... y_of_needs

Talking about things is the only way to spread information through society, if the media talked more on the topic of fulfillment then more people would absorb this information and start their own thought processes and discussions about it.

Knowledge is power, it is far harder to solve a problem without outside knowledge gathered by dozens of generations before you. Humans have come this far just because we can store knowledge and pass it on to next generations. Not everyone is smart enough and has the right experiences that lead to certain conclusions. Information passed between people could help them with that last push. I realize that most of the things i know are influenced by the information that i absorbed. I would not be able to reach all these conclusions on my own.

The concept of love is mainstream and information (wether its good info or not) is easily attainable just turn on the TV and watch any soap. How often do you see information in the media about the upper two levels in the pyramid ?. Its because a western consumerism economy will not sell products if their citizens start becoming Buddhist monks. Would you need to buy gucci or any other overpriced merchandise if you lived a happy and fulfilled life ?.

Understanding how/why and what makes you happy helps a great deal. Fun is all subjective and based on your experiences/concepts and thoughts in that moment. You could make more informed decisions that put you in those enjoyable moments/state more often instead of making decisions/thoughts that lead you to feeling bad. Understanding your emotions/thoughts allows you to guide them and turn bad feelings into enjoyable ones. Most of the time its not your surroundings who are responsible for your emotions its you and your thoughts.

At some point in your life you have thought about the things you enjoy wether it is conscious or not. Your brain makes connections that ensure you know something is enjoyable to attract you towards it in the future. Or repel you from negative ones. I know that going to mcdonalds is enjoyable but i also know that i will feel better in the long term if i don't go. Do you agree that you also think like this ?, if you do then this proves you also have a need to understand and think about these things.

Talking with other people is just a natural effect that follows thinking about these things. Its because you have a need to test your own thoughts to the thoughts of other people so you can tweak them to be more accurate. The problem we have now is that people tweak their concepts by talking to other people who had their ideas influenced heavily by the media. And as we all know information given by the media is not in the best interest of the people on the street. The truth is that people with low self esteem buy more products. So the media are used as a tool by corporations to feed information to the public that ensures they buy products (nothing new here). So they make sure to keep information that makes it easier to talk about ideas that increase self esteem OUT of the media. At the same time they emphasize the information that leads to lower self esteem.

I hope this makes it more understandable why talking(thinking) has a major influence on how attainable a certain state of mind is that leads you to find fulfillment in your job or whatever. Another misconception is that either you have it or you don't. You have Talent or you don't. You have a positive attitude or you do not. You naturally find fullfilment in your job or you dont.

The truth is that nobody starts with ''IT'' to begin with. Your brain is trained to give these responses. You can work to obtain a positive attitude and you have to work to train your brain into finding fulfillment in whatever you do. What i mean by work is that you have to keep making the decisions to think the most benifial thoughts and make the most beneficial decisisions that condition your brain to give the responses you want. Everything you do and think in every second of the day has an effect on how the neural connections in your brain are formed.

You can configure your brain to give the responses you want by making certain decisions and thinking certain thoughts.

Thinking negatively will ensure that you set yourself up for a negative experience further down the road when the concepts are activated in which you integrated these negative thoughts. Understanding this allows you to set yourself up for a good future by thinking thoughts that will be beneficial to you when they are brought up from your memory in the future. If you do this every second of the day you can make some radical changes. I know i can get depressed to the point where ill be suicidal just by thinking certain things long enough. I bet i could do this in a month if i started right now from my average level of happiness. You can do the same in the opposite direction.

This is just what i am thinking of right now, i am not saying i have all the answers. Its just that Without thinking and talking you are going nowhere my friend. Also for anyone critiquing my post be sure to explain why i am wrong. I really dislike it when people take the easy way out and don't do any explaining themselves and still expect you to.

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