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06 Aug 2011, 5:59 pm

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From my observations, there are two main types of aspies. The quiet ones, and the loud ones.

http://aspergersgirl.com/blog/aspergers ... ud-aspies/


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When most people think of someone with aspergers syndrome, they think of a boy or man, someone who is socially awkward, shy and reclusive. This simply is not always true. People also think of someone quiet and reserved. This is qute common, yet not always true either.


This talk (and other similar threads) made me think that perhaps the diagnosis of AS had transformed itself in something different from the original intention.

AFAIK, when, in the 1980s, some researcher begin to explore the concept of "Asperger's Syndrome", the idea was, exactly, to have a name from some "patients" who have impairments similar to autism, but that are "active but odd" instead of "aloof" - basically, sociable and verbose autistics (more or less the same thing that your "loud" type).

However, apparently, the diagnosis gained, instead, the connotation of , simply, mild autism, being applied to people who are "quiet, reserved and shy".



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06 Aug 2011, 6:19 pm

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SammichEater wrote:
From my observations, there are two main types of aspies. The quiet ones, and the loud ones.

http://aspergersgirl.com/blog/aspergers ... ud-aspies/


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When most people think of someone with aspergers syndrome, they think of a boy or man, someone who is socially awkward, shy and reclusive. This simply is not always true. People also think of someone quiet and reserved. This is qute common, yet not always true either.


This talk (and other similar threads) made me think that perhaps the diagnosis of AS had transformed itself in something different from the original intention.

AFAIK, when, in the 1980s, some researcher begin to explore the concept of "Asperger's Syndrome", the idea was, exactly, to have a name from some "patients" who have impairments similar to autism, but that are "active but odd" instead of "aloof" - basically, sociable and verbose autistics (more or less the same thing that your "loud" type).

However, apparently, the diagnosis gained, instead, the connotation of , simply, mild autism, being applied to people who are "quiet, reserved and shy".


Autism (and AS) only states that there are social impairments. The ways they manifest can be totally different.


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06 Aug 2011, 7:47 pm

yeah people by nature are unique, and thus every aspie as also unique, i only ran into 1 other person though with internal tv, or knew about it in some way.

be nice if their were more people like that.

back when i was on jetfox my old account i started talking to others about things i did or felt etc...

some people got some of the things i talked about, fantasy, the internal tv, warped logic, and other things. but i couldn't find many who understood very much no matter how much i described everything. and at some point i started to doubt i was an aspie, i lost my own identity and went through meltdown after meltdown. i asked to be banned thinking i was not like anyone that no one could relate. i now know that no one can relate but i went back to accepting that i was broken, and oddly enough that gives me peace.

my mom is usually shocked at what my internal tv can do, but i am not because to me it is normal.

i find that expecting others to not give a crap about me, or understand me helps comfort me. so when i do get attacked i already saw it coming. [not placing blame here this is just what i use to comfort myself.



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06 Aug 2011, 7:48 pm

I think another way to categorize us is between aspies who want to try for social interaction and those who don't care.


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06 Aug 2011, 8:55 pm

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AFAIK, when, in the 1980s, some researcher begin to explore the concept of "Asperger's Syndrome", the idea was, exactly, to have a name from some "patients" who have impairments similar to autism, but that are "active but odd" instead of "aloof" - basically, sociable and verbose autistics (more or less the same thing that your "loud" type).


Which is funny because Asperger's original cases were all pretty aloof - they'd talk back to you if you initiated interaction, Aloofness was the essence of the condition as far as he was concerned, that's why he called it autistic psychopathy.

Also, it's possible to be active-but-odd and low functioning - I knew a nonverbal 15 year old autistic who would readily initiate interaction and even start to pester you if you ignored him!



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06 Aug 2011, 10:04 pm

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AFAIK, when, in the 1980s, some researcher begin to explore the concept of "Asperger's Syndrome", the idea was, exactly, to have a name from some "patients" who have impairments similar to autism, but that are "active but odd" instead of "aloof" - basically, sociable and verbose autistics (more or less the same thing that your "loud" type).


Which is funny because Asperger's original cases were all pretty aloof - they'd talk back to you if you initiated interaction, Aloofness was the essence of the condition as far as he was concerned, that's why he called it autistic psychopathy.

Also, it's possible to be active-but-odd and low functioning - I knew a nonverbal 15 year old autistic who would readily initiate interaction and even start to pester you if you ignored him!


i'm guessing that would be what i am, i only speak if spoken to. i think i will call myself a classic aspie, i kinda have been for several months now.



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06 Aug 2011, 10:33 pm

I'm definitely more of a quiet Aspie. I tend to keep in the background most of the time and don't like being center stage. OTOH, when I'm around those I'm comfortable with, I can be very chatty.



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06 Aug 2011, 11:18 pm

Hey bro, this video may explain some things that I hope you will find helpful

http://www.caetextia.com/pages/defaultnetwork.html

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context blindness', a chronic disorder manifesting in the inability to adjust behaviours or perception to deal appropriately with interacting variables.



The site reviewed cases of people who have chronic fatigue syndrome(CFD) and discovered that there is a lot of overlap between people with aspergers and people who have cfd.

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    inability to think contextually, leading to unrealistic expectations of capabilities. People may talk about life goals that are not really reachable from where they are. For example, one right-brained caetextic woman with a diagnosis of CFS had, as her somewhat unrealistic aim in life, “healing wild animals, like lions and tigers”. A depressed, left-brained caetextic man had an equally unrealistic goal of starting a sailing school in Malta, when he couldn’t sail or even swim

    a history of relationship difficulties

    difficulties in developing rapport with a therapist, due to obsessive self-focus and lack of emotional reciprocity

    resistance to change, inflexibility of thought and rigid behaviour patterns

    problems with short-term memory, concentration and maintaining attention, typical of predominantly right-brained people. (By contrast, left-brained caetextics have enormous powers of concentration.)

    sleep disturbance

    clinical depression

    extreme mood swings – sufferers may get angry or depressed for no apparent reason

    inability to ‘read’ what others might be thinking

    tendency to do too much at one go, then collapse with exhaustion. This can take the form of workaholism: taking on tremendous responsibility, working excessively hard and then collapsing

    perfectionism. Combined with an excessive workload, this stresses the immune system to such an extent that even a simple viral infection can trigger CFS. Indeed, CFS is sometimes called post-viral fatigue syndrome.


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06 Aug 2011, 11:19 pm

SammichEater wrote:
From my observations, there are two main types of aspies. The quiet ones, and the loud ones.

http://aspergersgirl.com/blog/aspergers ... ud-aspies/


I rarely talk out loud. I'd consider myself a silent Aspie.


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06 Aug 2011, 11:37 pm

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SammichEater wrote:
From my observations, there are two main types of aspies. The quiet ones, and the loud ones.

http://aspergersgirl.com/blog/aspergers ... ud-aspies/


I rarely talk out loud. I'd consider myself a silent Aspie.


From the 7th to the 9th grade and even part of the 10th, everyone thought I was a mute. I'm almost certain you can't be any more silent than me. But I could be wrong, this is WP after all.


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07 Aug 2011, 12:29 pm

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Hey bro, this video may explain some things that I hope you will find helpful

http://www.caetextia.com/pages/defaultnetwork.html

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context blindness', a chronic disorder manifesting in the inability to adjust behaviours or perception to deal appropriately with interacting variables.



The site reviewed cases of people who have chronic fatigue syndrome(CFD) and discovered that there is a lot of overlap between people with aspergers and people who have cfd.

Quote:
    inability to think contextually, leading to unrealistic expectations of capabilities. People may talk about life goals that are not really reachable from where they are. For example, one right-brained caetextic woman with a diagnosis of CFS had, as her somewhat unrealistic aim in life, “healing wild animals, like lions and tigers”. A depressed, left-brained caetextic man had an equally unrealistic goal of starting a sailing school in Malta, when he couldn’t sail or even swim

    a history of relationship difficulties

    difficulties in developing rapport with a therapist, due to obsessive self-focus and lack of emotional reciprocity

    resistance to change, inflexibility of thought and rigid behaviour patterns

    problems with short-term memory, concentration and maintaining attention, typical of predominantly right-brained people. (By contrast, left-brained caetextics have enormous powers of concentration.)

    sleep disturbance

    clinical depression

    extreme mood swings – sufferers may get angry or depressed for no apparent reason

    inability to ‘read’ what others might be thinking

    tendency to do too much at one go, then collapse with exhaustion. This can take the form of workaholism: taking on tremendous responsibility, working excessively hard and then collapsing

    perfectionism. Combined with an excessive workload, this stresses the immune system to such an extent that even a simple viral infection can trigger CFS. Indeed, CFS is sometimes called post-viral fatigue syndrome.


holy crap what you wrote there is my life in a nutshell. i go through every thing you posted.



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07 Aug 2011, 12:32 pm

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MakaylaTheAspie wrote:
SammichEater wrote:
From my observations, there are two main types of aspies. The quiet ones, and the loud ones.

http://aspergersgirl.com/blog/aspergers ... ud-aspies/


I rarely talk out loud. I'd consider myself a silent Aspie.


From the 7th to the 9th grade and even part of the 10th, everyone thought I was a mute. I'm almost certain you can't be any more silent than me. But I could be wrong, this is WP after all.


Well, I'm going into 10th grade... Maybe things will change?


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07 Aug 2011, 2:47 pm

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Well, I'm going into 10th grade... Maybe things will change?


Things only changed for me because I started taking more difficult classes. It's much easier to have a conversation with students who aren't total morons. The average person in AP Calculus is much farther down on the spectrum than the average person in Introduction to Thumb Twiddling.


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07 Aug 2011, 3:23 pm

I'm aloof and very quiet, but I long for human interaction. I want to get some people's attention, but I'm clueless! I want to have witty conversations and deep emotional connections, but my mind always goes blank around people! It's frustrating!



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07 Aug 2011, 6:44 pm

i watched the link of the video, and i couldn't understand it one bit. he said that aspies cannot daydream, or don't have the internal tv or something. i was thinking um i do do both of those and i am an aspie dxed.

course alot of what he said i couldn't understand because of his accent or the audio of the video wasn't ever good, but i have no clue what he was going on about.



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07 Aug 2011, 7:00 pm

xemnasfan wrote:
MarketAndChurch wrote:
Hey bro, this video may explain some things that I hope you will find helpful

http://www.caetextia.com/pages/defaultnetwork.html

Quote:
context blindness', a chronic disorder manifesting in the inability to adjust behaviours or perception to deal appropriately with interacting variables.



The site reviewed cases of people who have chronic fatigue syndrome(CFD) and discovered that there is a lot of overlap between people with aspergers and people who have cfd.

Quote:
    inability to think contextually, leading to unrealistic expectations of capabilities. People may talk about life goals that are not really reachable from where they are. For example, one right-brained caetextic woman with a diagnosis of CFS had, as her somewhat unrealistic aim in life, “healing wild animals, like lions and tigers”. A depressed, left-brained caetextic man had an equally unrealistic goal of starting a sailing school in Malta, when he couldn’t sail or even swim

    a history of relationship difficulties

    difficulties in developing rapport with a therapist, due to obsessive self-focus and lack of emotional reciprocity

    resistance to change, inflexibility of thought and rigid behaviour patterns

    problems with short-term memory, concentration and maintaining attention, typical of predominantly right-brained people. (By contrast, left-brained caetextics have enormous powers of concentration.)

    sleep disturbance

    clinical depression

    extreme mood swings – sufferers may get angry or depressed for no apparent reason

    inability to ‘read’ what others might be thinking

    tendency to do too much at one go, then collapse with exhaustion. This can take the form of workaholism: taking on tremendous responsibility, working excessively hard and then collapsing

    perfectionism. Combined with an excessive workload, this stresses the immune system to such an extent that even a simple viral infection can trigger CFS. Indeed, CFS is sometimes called post-viral fatigue syndrome.


holy crap what you wrote there is my life in a nutshell. i go through every thing you posted.


lol I know what you mean! so do you have chronic fatigue syndrome, aspergers, or both? (I have both.)


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