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07 Aug 2011, 2:21 am

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When I first told my close friend who lives in Tigard about my Aspergers, she had just come back from church. I'm not a religious person, but my close friend was deep into religion. Every five minutes she would mention something that happened at church. But right before I told her about Aspergers, she said "While we were in our moment of silence, I heard a voice in my head say 'Aspergers'. I don't know what it is, but I think it's a part of my life somehow."

I don't know if it's true or not, but it's something I've been pondering for about a year now.

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does she go to tigard united methodist church in tigard oregon? That is a great church!

anyways, that is very odd... I am religious (just a theist who prescribes to judaism, but I've also started going to a christian church again) but im also not superstitious or read into things as having a divine component. They might have the hand of god, or it might be coincidence, either way, i don't read into things, no matter how odd or unlikely they are.


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07 Aug 2011, 2:24 am

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My interest in others plummets when finding out they ascribe to an organized religion or to supernatural concepts, with 'supporting evidence' being supposed intangible experiences generated by their own minds in order to justify their ridiculous beliefs in an age of the ever-increasing prevalence of science. And some of those same people would try to convince me that I'm the one with the broken brain.

Of course, my interest in others wasn't that high to begin with, so this isn't much of a loss to me.



I don't know you, but could it be possible for a non-theistic believing aspie and an NT theist to be both brain broken?


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07 Aug 2011, 3:01 am

On religion I don't particularly like the idea of one word describing my beliefs but I would seem agnostic or more of a humanist to outsiders. Organized religion can blow the big one, all it does is manipulate people into conforming to THEIR beliefs rather than allow for freedom of belief. But I will not throw out anyone who believes in that stuff unless they use it as an excuse to ruin others' lives.



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07 Aug 2011, 10:10 am

I am agnostic. I believe we cannot know exactly what's going on, so I cannot believe in anything (or nothing, like atheists).

Cool coincidence with the friend.


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07 Aug 2011, 10:23 am

Mother's a Protestant, Stepfather's Catholic. I'm Agnostic. Though Buddhism tempts me.



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07 Aug 2011, 4:41 pm

Does she hear voices in her head very often?



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07 Aug 2011, 4:57 pm

I'm an atheist. I don't understand how people can be religious given how illogical it is. That's why I gave up religion. I just couldn't get my mind around the whole "faith without proof" thing.



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07 Aug 2011, 5:00 pm

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I'm an atheist. I don't understand how people can be religious given how illogical it is. That's why I gave up religion. I just couldn't get my mind around the whole "faith without proof" thing.


Atheism, however, is as much a belief as any actual religion. You believe that there is no God. The only way to prove that is to die, and since we don't really come back from that, we cannot know if there is a God.


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07 Aug 2011, 5:42 pm

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Atheism, however, is as much a belief as any actual religion. You believe that there is no God. The only way to prove that is to die, and since we don't really come back from that, we cannot know if there is a God.


I disagree. Absent proof of a phenomena, the default position is to disbelieve. It's not that I believe there is no god, it's that I haven't seen any proof of his/her/it's existence, and therefore by definition I do not believe.



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07 Aug 2011, 7:32 pm

Artros wrote:
johnsmcjohn wrote:
I'm an atheist. I don't understand how people can be religious given how illogical it is. That's why I gave up religion. I just couldn't get my mind around the whole "faith without proof" thing.


Atheism, however, is as much a belief as any actual religion. You believe that there is no God. The only way to prove that is to die, and since we don't really come back from that, we cannot know if there is a God.


say a god does exist and one was to die, it doesn't necessarily mean that you will meet that God as the process after death is more so outlined in concept and not fully fleshed out in a step-by-step format in the text.

atheism can simply be that belief but militant atheism who are hawkish in their disbelief is taking a great many lines and tools from theistic evangelism.


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07 Aug 2011, 7:34 pm

I do believe in a God, just not in a religious way.



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07 Aug 2011, 7:58 pm

I am a Christian. Simple and true. :)


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07 Aug 2011, 8:28 pm

Both me and my husband are Christians, but we don't go to church. My husband doesn't agree with ideals of the last church we went to so we left. I know some religions do believe God does tell us things at certain times in our lives. But most is the time a lot of it is when people overhear something from someone else. I really don't know if that was case or not with your situation.



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07 Aug 2011, 9:29 pm

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Does she hear voices in her head very often?


Only at church... :scratch:


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07 Aug 2011, 9:57 pm

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Only at church... :scratch:


So she heard a voice in her head saying "Asperger's" when she was at church, but she only told you about it AFTER you told her you had Asperger's. Sorry, but it sounds too convenient to me.

I am agnostic. I only "heard" something once in my life. It was when my then boyfriend was breaking up with me because his father told him he had to leave the house and he had nowhere to go and did not want to drag me down with him. I heard (it was not precisely hear but more like feel) a voice inside me telling me "do not let him go". 16 years later we are still together and very happy. That was a pretty wise voice.



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07 Aug 2011, 9:59 pm

Ilka wrote:
MakaylaTheAspie wrote:
Only at church... :scratch:


So she heard a voice in her head saying "Asperger's" when she was at church, but she only told you about it AFTER you told her you had Asperger's. Sorry, but it sounds too convenient to me.


You didn't read my first post thoroughly. I said before.


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