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11 Aug 2011, 8:17 am

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I can only remember the percentiles, but I was 79th percentile on the verbal memory and 83rd on the shifting attentions. I only got two wrong on that test though, both in a row because I failed one and my mind kind of crashed for a moment.

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11 Aug 2011, 4:38 pm

I got 2 right on the quick facial expressions one--most of the others I just randomly pushed buttons.

I got 14 on the smiles test.

I'm not patient enough today to take the verbal memory one, but I'm curious about what makes it different from visual memory--since words that are seen and not spoken are basically just pictures (well....at least that's how I see them).

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11 Aug 2011, 7:59 pm

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I'm not patient enough today to take the verbal memory one, but I'm curious about what makes it different from visual memory--since words that are seen and not spoken are basically just pictures (well....at least that's how I see them).

Well, most people, when trying to remember verbal information (written or spoken), they'll say it back to themselves under their breath. This is called the phonological loop, and it's an important part of verbal memory.

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14 Aug 2011, 6:01 am

Ettina wrote:

And this one for fast recognition of facial expressions, but it doesn't tell you the normal score (I got 2 out of 10 right - could some NTs please take it and tell me their scores?).

6/10 for me.

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Oh, and this site has a bunch of them. My scores:

The site does not appear to be working.

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14 Aug 2011, 6:35 am

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I found this test of ability to detect fake vs real smiles and scored 14/20.

Scored 13/20. That's interesting, because I don't think the average for Aspies is lower than what I would expect it to be (as in, lower than the NT average).

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14 Aug 2011, 7:19 am

Ettina wrote:

I found this test which asesses verbal memory and executive function, gives you a standard score normed like IQ. I got 89 on verbal memory (86 on correct hits immediate, 111 on correct passes immediate, 85 on correct hits delayed, 109 on correct passes delayed) and 59 on shifting attention (63 on correct responses, 71 on errors and 89 on correct reaction time).

And this one for fast recognition of facial expressions, but it doesn't tell you the normal score (I got 2 out of 10 right - could some NTs please take it and tell me their scores?).

Oh, and this site has a bunch of them. My scores:

Test of Nonverbal Sensitivity Short Form (they call that short?) - 44 out of 64 or 69% accurate, average is 80% accurate.

Tenoral feelings - 2/15 scale interpretations, 4/10 melody interpretations

I guess I just needed to look harder.

Test of Nonverbal Sensitivity: 56/64 (87.5% accurate).
Tenoral feelings: 3/15 on the scales, 5/10 on melodies.

I am officially flummoxed on the nonverbal stuff. I have no idea how I keep scoring high on these things.

Did you take the MERT that they have as well or was it too long for you?

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14 Aug 2011, 9:47 am

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No one else interested in this? I keep worrying when I take self-report tests that my personal biases will make me answer it wrong.

You make a super good point. And that is why you need a professional to assess you properly. They use a variety of tools in their assessment of any disorders.

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14 Aug 2011, 2:19 pm

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On the other side, my formal evaluation did include self-reporting. There was also interviewing of my parents, and various tests done (including observing my reactions to them), but I actually had the AQ and the EQ as part of my formal assessment, as well as a section of interviewing me.

Yes, I've heard of people have these types of assessments as well. I never had the AQ or EQ. I've done them both, but on the computer for my own curiousity. My psych never mentioned these at all.

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14 Aug 2011, 2:22 pm

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My mistake. What kinds of tasks did they ask you to perform?

I don't think I can remember everything, but key things were: I had to build a puzzle, I had to look at a wordless picture book and tell the story, I was given two sets of a layout of picture cards and had to tell a story. She also asked me to describe emotions and my ideas of relationships and friendships. So, for this I did have to speak, but it still wasn't self-reflective. There was more to it than this, but these are some examples of what happened there.

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14 Aug 2011, 2:23 pm

Ettina wrote:

What I meant is like this:

Self-report test sample question: I have trouble telling what other people are feeling. Strongly Agree, Agree, Neutral, Disagree or Strongly Disagree.

Objective test sample question: *shows picture* What emotion is this person feeling? Anger, Boredom, Confusion, Tiredness.

Objective tests require you to show your abilities etc instead of just describing them.

Yes, I knew this is what you meant (don't know if this was directed to me or not), and if you go through with the formal diagnosis (ask for the ADIR/ADOS), then it is these objective tests that you will get. As for online versions, I don't know of many except for the more popular ones that you already know about.

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14 Aug 2011, 2:34 pm

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That's interesting--thanks! I need to create mental images of what I hear if I'm going to remember it (images of the words/numbers as if they were written down).....I remember words that I can't pronounce, define, or relate to any particular subject because I remember the picture of the word. My auditory memory must suck.

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14 Aug 2011, 2:37 pm

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And this one for fast recognition of facial expressions, but it doesn't tell you the normal score (I got 2 out of 10 right - could some NTs please take it and tell me their scores?).

I scored 3 on this, but 2 out of those 3 were lucky guesses. The only one I knew, and was still a slight guess, was sad. Every other emotion looked the same to me. Like happy?! Is THAT what happy looks like?! He looked the same as the one who was feeling disgust! *sigh*

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14 Aug 2011, 2:38 pm

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Oh, and this site has a bunch of them. My scores:

Test of Nonverbal Sensitivity Short Form (they call that short?) - 44 out of 64 or 69% accurate, average is 80% accurate.

Tenoral feelings - 2/15 scale interpretations, 4/10 melody interpretations

I guess I just needed to look harder.

That link will not open for me!

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14 Aug 2011, 2:45 pm

Ettina wrote:

The links are in the post - linked text looks a bit smaller.

For example, in the below statement, 'this test' is linked:

I found this test of ability to detect fake vs real smiles and scored 14/20.

I scored waaaay better than this than I thought I would: 17/20.

My logic was apparently flawed though. I looked for eye creases because I read once that a real smile will have eye creases and a fake smile will not. The 3 I got wrong, were when I went against this rule of mine. According to the snippet on the results page, it is fake smiles that show the eye creases--so I guess if I had read that beforehand, I would have done much worse.

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14 Aug 2011, 2:57 pm

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Ettina wrote:

And this one for fast recognition of facial expressions, but it doesn't tell you the normal score (I got 2 out of 10 right - could some NTs please take it and tell me their scores?).

The disgusted one wrinkled her nose and furrowed her brow (nose-wrinkling, especially, is a key feature in disgust. The Dutch even have a saying for it). The happy guy smiled, which also showed around the eyes.

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