No diagnosis? WTH?
I think how I'd take that is that they viewed you to have traits of the spectrum, but not be diagnosable, even if that's because of having created coping strategies for yourself. It sounds to me like you have solidly autistic traits, but don't have a disability, and the disability is required to get the diagnosis.
However, I can't imagine getting a diagnosis in only 15 minutes. Mine took about 6 hours between two sessions and included a large amount of testing as well as just talking to me.
However, I can't imagine getting a diagnosis in only 15 minutes. Mine took about 6 hours between two sessions and included a large amount of testing as well as just talking to me.
I know lol I was expecting it to take far longer. It wasn't even in a medical centre, rather it was in some council offices.
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The same thing happened to me OP, but don't feel bad. It's even worst that I'm an adult woman, and they say AS women are good at "performing" infront of an audience.
I sat down with the doctor for about ten minutes and he said I do NOT have aspergers because I could make eye contact, which I that was inane. I told him that I kept getting complaints and pulled away at the side at work for LACK of eye contact with customers and because I don't "acknowledge them"; as in, eye-contact or whatever the hell you're supposed to do. I even told him one friend from college (someone told her she was the only person that I willingly talked to) said I won't look people in the eye and my eyes get shifty because it makes me feel uncomfortable.
I've taught myself how to come off as a confident NT women from years of practice, but I cannot keep it up after a period of time. And to top it off, he said I just have social phobia which can be fixed with medication
I sat down with the doctor for about ten minutes and he said I do NOT have aspergers because I could make eye contact, which I that was inane. I told him that I kept getting complaints and pulled away at the side at work for LACK of eye contact with customers and because I don't "acknowledge them"; as in, eye-contact or whatever the hell you're supposed to do. I even told him one friend from college (someone told her she was the only person that I willingly talked to) said I won't look people in the eye and my eyes get shifty because it makes me feel uncomfortable.
I've taught myself how to come off as a confident NT women from years of practice, but I cannot keep it up after a period of time. And to top it off, he said I just have social phobia which can be fixed with medication

That's bad. You wouldn't even be able to go to work in the first place if you had social phobia. Please get a second opinion before taking the meds.
I'm ok about the situation now thanks. Being classed disabled would be bad for me at present.
I've never heard of a 15 minute ASD assessment. Actual assessments take a few hours to give, and sometimes involve interviews with family members.
Concerning eye contact and humor, being able to make eye contact or having a sense of humor does not exclude one from a diagnosis of AS. Lack of eye contact or inability to maintain it is just one potential trait.
The diagnostic criteria for this category states...
(A) marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
(B) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
(C) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or achievements with other people, (e.g.. by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
(D) lack of social or emotional reciprocity
So you see, it does not state that the person must be unable to make eye contact, and in fact, a person could make perfect eye contact as the person could have a trait expressed by category B and D only, or B and C only, or C and D only, and of course, B, C and D and not A.
No place in the diagnostic criteria does it mention lack of a sense of humor. Some people with AS have a difficult time picking up on sarcasm of identifying when someone is joking but it's an issue of miscommunication rather than lack of sense of humor in most instances.
I sat down with the doctor for about ten minutes and he said I do NOT have aspergers because I could make eye contact, which I that was inane. I told him that I kept getting complaints and pulled away at the side at work for LACK of eye contact with customers and because I don't "acknowledge them"; as in, eye-contact or whatever the hell you're supposed to do. I even told him one friend from college (someone told her she was the only person that I willingly talked to) said I won't look people in the eye and my eyes get shifty because it makes me feel uncomfortable.
I've taught myself how to come off as a confident NT women from years of practice, but I cannot keep it up after a period of time. And to top it off, he said I just have social phobia which can be fixed with medication

That's bad. You wouldn't even be able to go to work in the first place if you had social phobia. Please get a second opinion before taking the meds.
I'm ok about the situation now thanks. Being classed disabled would be bad for me at present.
Do not fear. I refused the meds and walked out angry. And I agree with you. I told him I did not have a social phobia, but psychiatrists these days do not want to listen and want a quick buck.
Concerning eye contact and humor, being able to make eye contact or having a sense of humor does not exclude one from a diagnosis of AS. Lack of eye contact or inability to maintain it is just one potential trait.
The diagnostic criteria for this category states...
(A) marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
(B) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
(C) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or achievements with other people, (e.g.. by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
(D) lack of social or emotional reciprocity
So you see, it does not state that the person must be unable to make eye contact, and in fact, a person could make perfect eye contact as the person could have a trait expressed by category B and D only, or B and C only, or C and D only, and of course, B, C and D and not A.
No place in the diagnostic criteria does it mention lack of a sense of humor. Some people with AS have a difficult time picking up on sarcasm of identifying when someone is joking but it's an issue of miscommunication rather than lack of sense of humor in most instances.
Ironically its a bit of a joke in its self. The only joke I remember making was when the doctor said "so you were diagnosed in childhood with hyperactivity, what measures did your doctor ask you to take?" I said "i had to stop eating sugary foods" she said "did it have any effect" I said "no" and chuckled.
That was it...
That is absurd. My assessment took 6 visits over a period of three months. Any competent assessments take hours.
If possible, go somewhere else - some place where they aren't treating patients like cattle to be branded and sorted.
Welcome to the modern NHS lol.
They say that in North Korea one doesn't have to pay for any health care (because they don't have any to provide).
Anyway there could have been a miscommunication in that the doctor possibly thought you just didn't care to pursue a diagnosis.
I'd say consider it a consult/general doc's appointment where he gave you his opinion rather than any attempt at a diagnosis. You can suspect AS in 15 minutes but there's no way you can diagnose it (or attempt to) in that length of time even if you are a medical professional... my dX was based mainly on a bunch of self-report paperwork but the interview still took about an hour, with two psychologists.
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That is absurd. My assessment took 6 visits over a period of three months. Any competent assessments take hours.
If possible, go somewhere else - some place where they aren't treating patients like cattle to be branded and sorted.
Welcome to the modern NHS lol.
Fair enough, The NHS could be better for what we pay though.
Looking at it now I think its probably been a good outcome. Tbh i did express to my gp prior to the assessment that I didn't think I would require or want treatment. I think I've just obsessed a bit about the result.
What paperoceans said is very close to my own situation insofar as eye contact and acknowledgement! I got pulled aside at work by the assistant manager; however, it was never documented in a performance evaluation. At the same time, I did develop a rapport with the people we serve...
Co-workers never understood why I was so rigid and inflexible about workplace relationships - including strict boundaries in even platonic relationships at work to the point where I was seen as cold and impersonal. I have had a couple of meltdowns/shutdowns on the job as well from dealing with the stress of people trying to force me into roles I'm not made to fulfill.
Everyone from co-workers to personal friends can pick out those traits that seem to stick out. When you add them all up, AS/ASD/PDD-NOS/BAP become distinct possibilities vis-a-vis the DSM-IV criteria along with one or two things I can add to the mix about myself, such as stimming.
I can trace my issues all the way back from childhood to the present time...same song, different day! Mind you, I've never been diagnosed as there was no diagnosis in the 1970s.
Although I have managed to do somethings with my life (own a car, have a job, pay bills, etc.), I have had significant problems with life issues that would fall under the category of executive dysfunction, perhaps.
The twisted part is that it is likely to be difficult for me to get a proper diagnosis because of the level of apparent progress despite the problems - which I feel is fundamentally irresponsible. I have significant impairments which have had a direct impact on my daily life!
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This is for any women here who suspect that they have Aspergers; I was reading Aspergirls and it is said we are often misdiagnosed with mental disorders--usually bipolar disorder because of our meltdowns, etc. I was diagnosed with GAD and Depression when I was 9, but then bipolar when I was 19--and after my "ten minute diagnosis" he said my problem with social phobia. My conclusion?
They don't know what they're talking about and you have to be VERY careful.
Surreal, my story is just about the same. I think I was diagnosed with bipolar through a one hour diagnosis, because I told them when I was in grade school, I would get overwhelmed and start sobbing--I called them meltdowns. I worked at Taco Bell as a teenager and one day there was JUST TOO MUCH. Too many customers, too many people talking, the bathroom was flooding. I see it now as a flashback and all I remember is HOW DAMN BRIGHT the restaurant was. And how many people there was--before I knew about Aspergers I told them I felt like I was overstimulated since I felt even as a child I do not do well when there is too much going on at once. I lost it at the job. Locked myself in the bathroom sobbing and ran out of the store in full freak out mode. When I told them that, they said I'm bipolar and gave me HEAVY drugs that I felt like I did not need!
At this point, I don't think a diagnose is even worth it unless you really need it. If you think you have it, then you probably do.
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I would probably confuse a specialist because my brain deviates from what is expected of a female brain...so maybe a really good specialist could diagnose me. lol
Um, all autism deviates from "normal brains". I'm not talking about seeing a specialist for females. I'm saying "a generic psychologist rather than an autism specialist has a harder time diagnosing females". It is in fact normal for an autistic female to have many traits associated with male brains.
Are you depressed? or anxious etc? What brought you to the doctor in the first place?
How exactly is AS not a mental health problem......it effects the mind and for some it does have a lot of negatives, not to mention it is in the DSM. Other then that though I agree with getting a second opinion, besides how did they expect to diagnose someone in 15 minutes?
I wouldn't say AS is a mental health issue in itself, but it gives rise to mental health issues like depression and anxiety etc.
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