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TheMachine1
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07 Sep 2006, 10:07 pm

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Ah, no add. It occurs when I'm tired, have a "bad" day or am somewhat depressed. Not just all the time, what happens with add.


Yeah its normal when a person is tired to not be as focused. When your tire your brain
waves want to get in a theta and delta state. (people with ADD get theta waves alot).

People with ADHD tend to be this way all the time. Though they can hyperfocus on things
they love just like ASD people.

Great your problem is so minor it has completely destroyed my life :)



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07 Sep 2006, 10:31 pm

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Ah, no add. It occurs when I'm tired, have a "bad" day or am somewhat depressed. Not just all the time, what happens with add.


I don't think it has to be all the time to be ADD; just enough to be disruptive to functioning normally. Mine's gotten bad enough lately that it has completely disrupted my work for months, but it's always reduced my productivity significantly.



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08 Sep 2006, 6:08 am

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Sitting there and focusing on that task is a herculian effort that's growing. .... Here I am at this message board again for the last 40 minutes since I woke up at 5:30. (Went to bed at 1am)

Irregular or insufficient sleep often reduces a persons ability to concentrate and focus. So if you can solve the sleeping problems, then your concentration/focus should improve.

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From your statement, I would guess that you don't have some form of ADD yourself and you don't really understand it. It's like someone who doesn't have epilepsy telling someone who's having a seizure, "Just stop it. You lack self-discipline."

Whether or not I understand ADD is irrelevant because I was replying to someone who specifically said he does NOT have ADD. You even quoted him saying "I don't have ADD at all". I was NOT saying ADD sufferers lack self-discipline -- I was not talking about ADD at all. Looks like you need to go back to bed :P



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08 Sep 2006, 7:08 am

[quote="TheMachine1"]People with ADHD tend to be this way all the time. Though they can hyperfocus on things
they love just like ASD people.[quote]

Maybe that's the key to ADD: that they can't choose what to hyperfocus on.



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08 Sep 2006, 7:22 am

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Irregular or insufficient sleep often reduces a persons ability to concentrate and focus. So if you can solve the sleeping problems, then your concentration/focus should improve.


Assuming that's it and not the other way around. It feels to me like I have classic ADD symptoms as well as classic AS symptoms and those are currently interferring with my sleep. My sleep patterns aren't always like this, but the fact that my mind is immediately very active on a specific subject within seconds of waking up is common. In fact, I was getting about seven hours most nights until the last few days, but my ADD issues have been gradually impacting my job the last couple of years and I can look back and see how my AS & ADD have impacted me since grammar school.

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Whether or not I understand ADD is irrelevant because I was replying to someone who specifically said he does NOT have ADD. You even quoted him saying "I don't have ADD at all". I was NOT saying ADD sufferers lack self-discipline -- I was not talking about ADD at all. Looks like you need to go back to bed :P


This is an AS site and ADD is a very common comorbidity with AS. If you had asked me if I had AS a week ago, I wouldn't have even known what you were talking about it, but as soon as I read up on it, I was like "That's me!" I'm not jumping to conclusions to think he may have ADD issues that are neurological the way he describes it. When someone posts "Concentration Problems" on an AS site, it's makes sense to assume that's what they mean. If you posted it on a site about Libertarian Activism, THEN it might be jumping to conclusions to think it might be ADD-related.



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08 Sep 2006, 7:28 am

TheMachine1 wrote:
Pug wrote:

Ah, no add. It occurs when I'm tired, have a "bad" day or am somewhat depressed. Not just all the time, what happens with add.


Yeah its normal when a person is tired to not be as focused. When your tire your brain
waves want to get in a theta and delta state. (people with ADD get theta waves alot).

People with ADHD tend to be this way all the time. Though they can hyperfocus on things
they love just like ASD people.

Great your problem is so minor it has completely destroyed my life :)


Problem though, I get tired really fast, especially if I'm near other persons. Example:
Today I had math classes. I wasn't tired, had slept well, and I could concentrate really good. Then, after about half an hour, an NT, that came too late in lesson, sat right next to me. Okay, so far so good. Ater a quarter or so, he gets bored and starts talking to me. I think WTF shut up! Were having classes hello! (NTs appear to have problems with being quiet) I talk back, don't want to be rude, and ater a quarter, with some small conversations, I'm really tired (if you want me tired, talk to me :? ), stressed and am not able to concentrate at all. So for the rest of the lesson, ie about 2 hours I learned nothing.



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08 Sep 2006, 10:21 am

There's another thread about socializing making aspies tired. That may be unrelated to your concentration issues. As for the concentrating stuph, if it's not interferring with your life, I'd not worry about it. If it is, I'd suggest you see a professional and make sure they know you're an aspie. Let them decide whether you have some sort of attention disorder. Don't trust us to diagnose you!
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08 Sep 2006, 11:54 am

Well my guess regardless if you have ADHD and/or ASD you have focus problems that
could improve with ADHD treatments.

If you think some combinations of actions other than taking a cns stimulant is going to
make much difference you maybe in for rude awakening.



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08 Sep 2006, 1:05 pm

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If you think some combinations of actions other than taking a cns stimulant is going to
make much difference you maybe in for rude awakening.


Mach stop being so negative :P

If everyone did things the easy and conventional way we would have barely advanced out of the stone age :P


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08 Sep 2006, 2:13 pm

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If everyone did things the easy and conventional way we would have barely advanced out of the stone age :P


Yeah? Oh crap. I guess I will stop hitting women over the head with a stick and dragging them back to my place. :oops:



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09 Sep 2006, 2:16 pm

If I can visualise what I'm reading, then I'm usually okay with it, but if it doesn't interest me I won't be able to concentrate even if I force myself. It's even worse with people speaking, where I'll find it hard to concentrate if the speaker talks for longer than 15 seconds (sometimes less than that), and again forcing myself to concentrate makes no difference with this (even concentrating on listening distracts me, and whether I like it or not I'll always end up daydreaming or distracted by something else).


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