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can you imagine the scene as described?
Poll ended at 06 Sep 2011, 10:19 am
yes 69%  69%  [ 22 ]
no 22%  22%  [ 7 ]
not sure 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
i didn't even try but i like clicking buttons 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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23 Aug 2011, 3:21 pm

I can imagine the things you describe, yes.



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23 Aug 2011, 4:06 pm

At first I wasn't sure I could; but thankfully, yes I can! :D


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23 Aug 2011, 4:15 pm

I'm the same. Objects either vanish or completely change in my visualization. They float away. Dance or hover, but never stay put.



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23 Aug 2011, 5:31 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
can you all do me a favour and imagine something like i've described (person in a chair and a magazine on a table)... then tell me if those things stay in place? this has always bothered me a great deal and i've wondered if i am alone in my strangeness.


I have this problem sometimes.

I don't know what causes it. One thing I've done for descriptive writing is visualizing a scene in 3D. I can rotate the scene, zoom in on specific parts, zoom out for a larger overview, pause it, play it, rewind, fast forward, etc.

And then with the next thing I try to visualize I can't hold everything in its place. I don't know why I can do it sometimes and not others.



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23 Aug 2011, 8:13 pm

Zen wrote:
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I can imagine the scene you described and similar ones and hold it, but I can't imagine them in details. Focusing on details leaves the scene scattered, so I can see only the most obvious features of the scene at a time.

This, exactly.

Same here.


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23 Aug 2011, 8:15 pm

Whoa, wait a minute here. What's this stuff going on about 4D? I want four D's too.


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23 Aug 2011, 9:01 pm

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I can't even visualize it, so I have no idea if stuff would be moving. I've never been able to visualize a scene someone else explains - I've very very rarely been able to come up with a picture myself, only in meditation that is attempting to push towards that.

i get very irritated with fiction for that reason. i can't imagine the scenes.

interesting you would mention meditation - my shrink helps me to use visualisation in therapy sessions. she gets me to call images to mind that describe how different ideas and situations make me feel. it's a great hybrid for me. i can't imagine objects clearly, and i don't havea good vocabulary for emotions, but this method gives me a whole new way to express my feelings. i don't force the images.... they just arrive.

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Well, I could do both. I HAVE experienced the kind of thing you are talking about though. At times, I try to basically dream as I might while sleeping, and see a picture like it is right in front of me. If I try to focus on it, it may get swept away like a poster in the wind. If I try to visualize in a bit less visual way, if you know what I mean, I can see it static or moving.

i think i DO know what you mean, just sort of allowing the image to exist peripherally or vaguely without staring at it in your minds'-eye. i shall have to try it.

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Awful visual thinking skills, here.

I can't even grasp intermediate Geometry AND I can't do what you described lol.

I can picture the magazine on the table, or a person in a chair, but not together. It becomes...mush.

I'm a very auditory/verbal person by nature, FWIW.

HORRIBLE sense of direction because I can't visualize *anything* (streets, blocks, neighborhoods) in my mind, either.

i tend to also think i am also an auditory/verbal person. many of my strongest memories are of sounds/songs/voices/conversations. i don't know if i know anything about geometry, which probably means that... i don't know it lol.

i find places by address, not by landmarks (on the bus or foot - i don't drive). it's a big joke in my family that i find the most boring, commonly traveled stretch of road completely fascinating because i never remember i've already seen it 50 times.


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At first I wasn't sure I could; but thankfully, yes I can! :D

dopplercb wrote:
I can imagine the things you describe, yes.

lucky. JWS and doppercb, can you imagine elaborate scenes, even?

doppercb, your avatar always makes me feel like i have a bug on my screen. LOL

CloudBurn wrote:
I'm the same. Objects either vanish or completely change in my visualization. They float away. Dance or hover, but never stay put.

hallelujah! i like the phrasing that they dance or hover.


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23 Aug 2011, 9:03 pm

Yes, I can. I have a very visual mind in that the majority of my thoughts are solely visual. I can see full, complex scenes in my head.


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23 Aug 2011, 9:15 pm

Verdandi wrote:
I have this problem sometimes.

I don't know what causes it. One thing I've done for descriptive writing is visualizing a scene in 3D. I can rotate the scene, zoom in on specific parts, zoom out for a larger overview, pause it, play it, rewind, fast forward, etc.

And then with the next thing I try to visualize I can't hold everything in its place. I don't know why I can do it sometimes and not others.

that is an interesting question. i definitely have more trouble at some times than others, but i do not know the pattern.

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Whoa, wait a minute here. What's this stuff going on about 4D? I want four D's too.

you're not special enough. :P maybe it can be cultivated?


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23 Aug 2011, 9:16 pm

littlelily613 wrote:
Yes, I can. I have a very visual mind in that the majority of my thoughts are solely visual. I can see full, complex scenes in my head.

that would be awesome.


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23 Aug 2011, 9:24 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
SammichEater wrote:
Whoa, wait a minute here. What's this stuff going on about 4D? I want four D's too.

you're not special enough. :P maybe it can be cultivated?


I've always thought that it's impossible to imagine a 4D shape. We're confined to 3D space, any sort of fourth dimension blows my mind.


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23 Aug 2011, 9:33 pm

I am imagining a magazine on a table and then the wind comes and its pages start turning so I imagine a heavy object on top of it to keep it in place and all of a sudden I feel like the magazine feels squished in b/w the table and the heavy object.

I am imagining a person on a chair and the person is restless or doesn't want to stay so they run away.



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23 Aug 2011, 9:46 pm

No. When I think of a person in a chair, I visualize neither the person nor the chair. I don't think in pictures.



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23 Aug 2011, 10:26 pm

pree10shun wrote:
I am imagining a magazine on a table and then the wind comes and its pages start turning so I imagine a heavy object on top of it to keep it in place and all of a sudden I feel like the magazine feels squished in b/w the table and the heavy object.

I am imagining a person on a chair and the person is restless or doesn't want to stay so they run away.

yeah that is something like me. like the objects and people have volition.

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No. When I think of a person in a chair, I visualize neither the person nor the chair. I don't think in pictures.

how do you imagine? smells? sounds? mixture?


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23 Aug 2011, 10:42 pm

Cash__ wrote:
No. When I think of a person in a chair, I visualize neither the person nor the chair. I don't think in pictures.


Same here. I don't really visualize things. I can *think of* a person in a chair, but no picture comes to mind, and if I *really* try, it is very lacking in detail but I can verbally describe how it *would* look. I'm a *very* verbal/auditory person, bad with directions, shapes, geometry, maps, and spatial relations.

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23 Aug 2011, 11:16 pm

Wow, I've never thought about anything like this one. Yes, I can visualize them, but it seems like they want to move around, do their own thing.. so the scene won't stay like it is for long.. they do seem to have a tendency to want to float around.. maybe because they aren't in a room or any sort of 'grounded space'.. but if the items were all contained in some sort of timeless bubble then yeah, they would do nothing forever (timelessly)

That is quite a good question.

As far as specifics, what they all look like, not immediately, but I could come up with something.. I've always been good at coming up with 'reasons' for things.. stories, history, logic, whatever you want to call it.. it could even be a compulsion