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12 Sep 2006, 11:58 pm

"Procrastination is linked to AS...can someone post a link to a study or report?"

I,for one,am not stating that there is a causal relationship...I dont know if I have AS...I am sure that there is more then one "cause".I do know that what ever caused it I have it and although it is nice to have scientific information to support a theory...the theory i self maybe true EVEN if there is not anyone who has done research to support it...ie..."There are more things in heaven and earth then ever dreamed of in your Philosophy(or science)...."(total paraphrase)

To me it seems logical that if I experience alot of stress in social situations,driving,dealing with authority figures,being touched by strangers(one example of many)I am going to procrastinate to make a doctor apt(talking on the phone)and getting ready to go to apt....because...it is totally "normal" for all people to want to avoid "negative stimuli"...difference for people with AS would be that they experience more negative stimuli then the average population and would there for have more situations to procrastinate (conciously or not) about...


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13 Sep 2006, 12:05 am

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I read somewhere that some with AS(especially seen in children)will "freeze" in position when they sense danger or overload


Yeah when I was I guess 5 or so I was in the back yard playing with my brother and it
was getting dark we had to come inside. My brother walked to the front yard without
me I watched him I guess with tunnel vision and became completely frozen. He returned
much later and was able to get me!! !! I could not move.



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13 Sep 2006, 12:17 am

I have bad problems with procrastination. Actually, I am slower than just about anybody else with everything. I am slow at eating, brushing my teeth, doing homework, responding to a statement or question, reading, talking, moving, dressing, etc.



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13 Sep 2006, 12:24 am

werbert wrote:
I have bad problems with procrastination. Actually, I am slower than just about anybody else with everything. I am slow at eating, brushing my teeth, doing homework, responding to a statement or question, reading, talking, moving, dressing, etc.


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13 Sep 2006, 12:28 am

It's true. I do take a long time to love myself.



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13 Sep 2006, 3:13 am

werbert wrote:
I have bad problems with procrastination. Actually, I am slower than just about anybody else with everything. I am slow at eating, brushing my teeth, doing homework, responding to a statement or question, reading, talking, moving, dressing, etc.

Me too! Always have. My mother always used to call me a 'drip' because of my slowness (nice, huh? :roll: ) Now I just berate myself. But now I know it's AS related I will try to give myself a break!


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13 Sep 2006, 3:18 am

By the way, I'm procrastinating right now - I should be leaving for work now but I'm sat here, having had no breakfast yet or anything... Good thing my job is voluntary!!

You know what, I think I've figured out why I'm having such trouble this morning. I set the alarm so that I had plenty of time to get ready to be at work for 10am. Then a colleague texted me to ask me to go shopping ( :x ) for some stuff on my way in. I can't quite cope with that. It's disrupted my plans. Grrr. I really couldn't bring myself to re-set the alarm for earlier to accomodate this, and in fact when it went off this morning I kept re-setting it for later and later. I'm like 'what's the point' when I'm not going to make it by the time I had set myself. And I HATE shopping! So yeah, I'm procrastinating. And I'm p'd off. But being p'd off doesn't motivate me to sort it out - quite the opposite, in fact! Sigh........


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13 Sep 2006, 11:46 am

krex wrote:
I read somewhere that some with AS(especially seen in children)will "freeze" in position when they sense danger or overload(animals do it all the time,preditors sense movement and will chase what is running on impulse....so if I stay very still...except the "prediter doesnt have to be a physical "thing"...It can be anything which causes pain,destress,fear...ie...applying for a job,driving,going to the Dr,or going to a setting which causes stress and overload...

you lucked out...I already forgot what the third thing is...lol....(short attention spam strikes again)


OMG thats why i'm always late :o



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13 Sep 2006, 11:51 am

I see two completely different things being confused here.

I beleive the original poster was referring to partial temporary catatonia which is different from simple procrastination.

Procrastination is "Ill do it later"

Partial temporary catatonia is "urrrrr.. cant.. move.. at all... there!" and an hours passed which seemed like a couple minutes.


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13 Sep 2006, 2:40 pm

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I read somewhere that some with AS(especially seen in children)will "freeze" in position when they sense danger or overload


Don't NTs do that too? Maybe aspies do it worse, but in movies lots of NTs freeze up (and movies show the absolute truth, as we all know*).

It happened a couple of months ago when someone tried to mug me in the subway tunnel, although I think I took so long to react because the mugger kind of wrapped her arm around my neck and I thought it might be a friend (I was going home from school) who was trying to scare me (they tend to do that).

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13 Sep 2006, 3:02 pm

When someone says something mean to me I always seem to be struck dumb, rather than retalliating. I wonder if that's a bit like freezing in the face of danger.


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13 Sep 2006, 10:03 pm

Superfantastic....

I think the difference is that NT freeze because of real danger(mugger)but AS freeze at "perceived "dangers that NT would not sense danger about...mainly,I think of it a sensory over load
an NT wouldnt "freeze" just because of a "noise" that is barely perceptable to them.like a door slamming in your house,NT would atomatically filter it out as nonthreatening...some AS people will freeze to work out what is causing the noise and if it could be a danger or feel "overload panic" in a crowded noisy atmosphere....or be "struck dumb" by something someone said because you cant read the body language and need to process the information "logically"...

I do think this is different then the inability to move to follow through with a task(going to school,etc)
because the "danger" percieved is unconciouse internal dialogue...the desire to avoid stressors...NT's have this to...difference being, AS has more stressors...I really think this is a form of "panic attack" where you avoid an activity to avoid the "panic" feeling


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13 Sep 2006, 10:06 pm

Oh, thanks Krex, that sounds just about right.
Mugger=NT (and aspie) menace
Schoolmates=just aspie menace



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13 Sep 2006, 11:56 pm

Back on topic

There are two people studying procrastination (and links to perfectionism) at Flinders University, South Australia. They have been doing regular radio and news spots. I think journalists can relate.

http://www.flinders.edu.au/?news=150

http://www.flinders.edu.au/healthcounse ... help_d.htm



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14 Sep 2006, 4:14 am

Fraya wrote:
Procrastination is "Ill do it later"

Partial temporary catatonia is "urrrrr.. cant.. move.. at all... there!" and an hours passed which seemed like a couple minutes.


Er. That last one doesn't have to affect the sense of time at all.

But yeah they're not the same.

I freeze in place a lot but my sense of time doesn't necessarily become any more distorted at those times than any other. And that's diagnosed as catatonia.


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17 Sep 2006, 1:30 pm

I had no idea that this was an Aspie trait. I've done it my entire life, never had a name for it, never knew why, can't seem to go into a zoning/spacing/in-my-own-mind mode when it would be convenient for me, either, e.g. waiting at a bus stop. Mostly just when there's something that I really should be doing but don't so much want to. It's caused some major, major problems in my life.