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18 Sep 2006, 6:02 pm

Ask any doctor and all they can tell you is its mostly diagnosed in males because thats where its most obvious and being looked for the hardest.. as far as an actual ratio goes NO ONE KNOWS.


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18 Sep 2006, 6:03 pm

waterdogs wrote:
i don't know man, did you have any prof your you're diagnosis like a IEP when you were in school?

I have no proof at all. Which makes it very difficult, and so easy to dismiss. My special ed classes were in preschool only. From grade 1 to 11 I excelled grade-wise in school, getting mostly As and Bs, and the autism diagnosis was mostly forgotten; it's always been in the back of my mind though.

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if your whole argument is "females don't fit the male brain" or whatever you're right. because As, is mostley a male disorder. if the females Have As they'll show the same signs the males show. thats the way it is weather you like it or not.

I disagree. I am female and I think symptoms can vary from person-to-person, gender-to-gender.
Check out this article, it explains why women with Asperger's tend to be less agressive, more shy, and so on.



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18 Sep 2006, 6:05 pm

i'll spose next you'll tell me that "women don't show the same signs as men do" and thats why they get overlooked. well here's my answer, the way it stands now in the DSM manual for disorders If the females don't show x amount of number of symptoms of As they don't got it. if you think you are so right, why don't you write up a paper and send it somewhere to have it considerd if you want to bend the rules of having As to fit more females. otherwise shut up its that simple.



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18 Sep 2006, 6:11 pm

waterdogs wrote:
i'll spose next you'll tell me that "women don't show the same signs as men do" and thats why they get overlooked. well here's my answer, the way it stands now in the DSM manual for disorders If the females don't show x amount of number of symptoms of As they don't got it. if you think you are so right, why don't you write up a paper and send it somewhere to have it considerd if you want to bend the rules of having As to fit more females. otherwise shut up its that simple.

You don't think diagnosis criteria should ever be challenged or modified?
"otherise shut up its that simple" is this comment conductive towards healthy debate?
Please check out that article, there are valid concerns.

edit: someone already wrote a damned paper, and it's here -link-.



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18 Sep 2006, 6:13 pm

not at all thats why fraya should write up a paper. since she seems to be the local expert on female As



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18 Sep 2006, 6:30 pm

I believe this started with somebody new asking for opinions on a specific question.

Having said that, waterdogs, usually you're chopping through to heart of things, but calm down, please, don't make me get pro-feminist. I ain't like that.

But I got this daughter, a nine year old herpetologist who thought I was dumb because I didn't know that the komodo dragon was a type of monitor lizard. She doesn't have any friends, and when Hans Asperger talked about "little professors" he must have been talking to her through a tachyon telephone.

I don't know much, but I know that there's women and girls out there hurting the same as us, and they matter as much as us.

You know damn well what the "DS" in DSM stands for. There ain't no experts, we're it. Lets keep an open mind. My asperger's isn't the same as your asperger's. I may not agree, but I damn well better listen and consider.


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18 Sep 2006, 6:46 pm

CanyonWind wrote:
I believe this started with somebody new asking for opinions on a specific question.

Yeah. Well, this is a very lively forum at least! I am glad I found it. I think I just need to muster the courage to broach this subject again. This time I will be very prepared and cite reference materials.
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18 Sep 2006, 9:39 pm

maybe try the neuro/psych dept of the childrens hospital, no matter how old you are. that's where the AS experts are.