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One of the best experiences I ever had was coming out of a cave on a dark winter night with a heavy frost and a clear sky.
We wre quite exhausted and very wet.

High above us was Hale Bopp the comet.
It was a fantastic sight

Hale Bopp always reminds me of this experience.

Thank you Hale Bopp

Sounds like a move towards a 'clean sheet' for you, hale_bopp. Putting the past behind you, making good as best you can, and moving on.

That is a good thing, and I applaud your efforts.

Emp is pedantic to the nth degree, so I've taken to ignoring him. I'd suggest you do the same.

You know when people go to their friends houses, they often take a bottle of wine? People going to Emp's place take razor blades. And then he makes them take their shoes off at the door and write down the brand names of the razor blades in an Excel spreadsheet before they can come in

It's a right old barrel of laughs round Emp's house, and no mistake.

I realised I was short with somepeople who I couldn't understand, and now somethings happened, and I understand them. I am sorry for not giving the support they deserve, it really is a horrible thing to go though.

No, I am just quite intolerant of BS. I criticized you in that other thread because you were saying BS. It is nothing to do with being pedantic.

So I stand by what I said. A broad sweeping apology addressing no-one in particular does not seem sincere. If you really think you should apologize, then write individual apologies to specific people.

Would you like to tell us what happened? Please, share.

You ARE pedantic, because you over-analyse things according to your own bizarre and rigid rules and cannot accept any hint that you might be wrong. I haven't lied, and I could waste an evening giving you an even more detailed explanation to prove this, but it simply isn't worth the effort - especially as you don't seem to bother even trying to understand what I say. Perhaps one day I'll run out of important or interesting things to do, and then I might reply.

You are also aggressive to the point of bullying. Instead of launching into a tirade about "bull****", why not ask a few questions to see what was meant, or use a phrase such as 'inaccurate'? Your choice of words is deliberately inflammatory and I suspect that you get a kick out of arguing. Is this because, like many Aspies, you have a good intellect but poor social skills, and you are not interested in sports? Therefore your main way of "proving yourself" is to pick intellectual fights just for the sake of fighting?

Regarding your pedantic, assumptive nature, this thread is a good example. For a start, you have assumed that Hale_bopp KNOWS exactly who she has upset. Given the poor awareness of social conventions which characterises Asperger's, it's highly possible that she is worried about times when she has upset people unknowingly, by accident. In such circumstances a blanket apology is the only way of reaching those involved, because Hale-bopp doesn't necessarily know who to talk to on an individual basis. However, as usual you have rushed in to find fault and make a personal attack just because someone doesn't conform to YOUR rules.

I think Emp is smart and he is correct by thinking something seems
strange about Hale_Bopp post. He choose to look at the words she used to
understand. I and others are looking at why the words were used not what
they mean. I.e. people are still asking her for details.

If a person says "I want to die" you kinda want to know why they feel that way
more than you want to spend all day defining what "I want to die" means.

Not true. The most recent example that contradicts your claim is the following post where I acknowledged a point that I was unaware of (even though I disliked it):
http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.htm ... 415#295415


I am aggressive in not tolerating obvious BS. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, I rather like that characteristic of myself.


I wrote in a way that was very ineffective at convincing you. This was because I had no interest in convincing you. I was writing for the OTHER people reading.


No. I enjoy sport and have favorites. You are sounding very desperate to make me look bad. Just plucking random crap out of the air and trying to pin it onto me.


No, my way of proving myself is achieving success in my work and career.


No. Look at the last sentence of the message I posted. You are clearly wrong. I said:

"If you cannot remember specific acts that you are apologizing for, or who to apologize to, then just forget it, it is too late. Move on and try to act better in future."


haha it amuses me that you say this. You accuse me of rushing in, and now we see that it was YOU who rushed in -- it was you who did not read my message properly and missed the last sentence! You are accusing me of your own flaw. (This is fairly common behavior -- watch for it, people, and you will see. People cannot think of original insults so they use their own flaws as inspiration.)

The other amusing thing is that you say, "as usual you...". As usual? You only joined this forum last month!! Hardly enough time for you to know what is usual behavior for all the members here. You are just inventing more BS because you are angry at me because I exposed you.

Every time you post a lengthy, obsessive, argumentative post it proves my point, Emp.

We can only make judgements based on our own experiences. IN MY EXPERIENCE THUS FAR, your usual manner is unnecessarily rude and judgemental. The very fact that you choose to quibble over the contextual use of one word - usual - simply confirms that you are a pedant.

This is the third topic in a fortnight where you've gone off on a big rant at someone simply because they don't conform to the Rule Book that's hidden inside your head. Well sorry, but not everyone thinks in exactly the same way as you. I appreciate that in your world you want everything to be precise and clear-cut. But those are your standards for yourself. Even if I did have access to your self-imposed rules for conversation, why should I be obliged to follow them? What makes you better than everybody else? Given that there is no way of directly reading someone's thoughts (unless you believe in emotional rather than word-based ESP), meaning will always be slightly ambiguous because we are largely reliant on language to communicate ideas. Don't foist your personal values on to me as though they are gospel.



So, abusiveness and defamation of character are perfectly acceptable, are they?



No, I'm asking you a question. I find your attitude confusing and wonder what your motives are.



Oh, sorry, my mistake. For NINE TENTHS of your rant you have assumed that Hale_bopp knows exactly who she has upset. Then, at the end of your diatribe, you have put in a "get out of jail" clause in the hope that this will excuse the vitriol which precedes it. Well, in my personal opinion it simply doesn't. I don't believe you're making any effort to understand the way other people communicate, or to show empathy, or to practice tolerance. And I accept that I am intolerant to a certain extent, because I find your attitude hard to take, but at least I don't act like I'm perfect and assume absolute authority over others e.g. "Move on and try to act better in future." Oh, sorry Teacher... sorry God. It sounds like you're scolding a small child or a naughty puppy. What's wrong with a little humility? Your one attempt at being understanding towards Hale_bopp still ends with a metaphorical slap to the face.



In which case you are accusing me of accusing you of your own flaw, which means we're both as bad as each other. But at least I'll admit it.

What happen to ignoring Emp?

It's really good advice you know.

LOL! I've been trying...

The irony is that we'd probably get on quite well if we met, but there's something about the way he writes things which really gets on my nerves. I can't cope with his lack of flexibility, modesty and humour. To be fair it would appear Emp doesn't like my style much either.

I can't be bothered any more. It's all got far too anally retentive again. Let him have the final say (because, let's face it, we'll go on and on and on about this otherwise) and everyone can judge for themselves and/or get on with life.

If anyone thinks I'm a pain then please mail me or start a topic about it - I don't mind.

Yeah Emp reminds me of my father. I know there are absolutely no words that can
get us on common ground on most things.

Sometimes agreeing to disagree is the only thing two people can do

(But Im not a fan of emp's writing style either shhh dont tell him )

It is only defamation if it is false/unjustified. If a criticism is true, it is not defamation, regardless of how harsh it is.

hale: hmm, I hope that you are not going soft and abandoning your panache