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swbluto
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09 Oct 2011, 4:16 pm

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I must have a very different kind of Asperger's. Robots, stoicism, Star Trek etc all give me a cold sad empty feeling. There needs to be a soul in things for me. Logic and acceptance of what is can get you far but the things in life that have meant the most and made me the happiest involved feeling taking over and a break from the limits of logic and circumstance.


You have the NT kind of aspergers. :P

More seriously, I'm guessing you might just be a part of the variation within the aspergers population, and many aspies who don't identify with stoicism probably would avoid this thread because it isn't interesting, so naturally you'd seem like an out-liar in this thread.

But, based on your other posts and my "impression" of you, I'm guessing ... MAYBE... you have something similar to aspergers but not *really* and the psychologist who diagnosed you may have had aspergers as their pet disorder. I can't really guess what the look-alike disorder might be, but something like adhd/add might be more accurate. Heck, it might even be simple giftedness.



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09 Oct 2011, 4:18 pm

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I must have a very different kind of Asperger's. Robots, stoicism, Star Trek etc all give me a cold sad empty feeling. There needs to be a soul in things for me. Logic and acceptance of what is can get you far but the things in life that have meant the most and made me the happiest involved feeling taking over and a break from the limits of logic and circumstance.


What a pity purchase!
Star Trek makes me feel all warm inside, I´m in love with logic and the word soul is too abstract for me to comprehend. Unless you´re talking about Soul Music ofcourse, I do know a thing or two about that.



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09 Oct 2011, 4:22 pm

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purchase wrote:
I must have a very different kind of Asperger's. Robots, stoicism, Star Trek etc all give me a cold sad empty feeling. There needs to be a soul in things for me. Logic and acceptance of what is can get you far but the things in life that have meant the most and made me the happiest involved feeling taking over and a break from the limits of logic and circumstance.


What a pity purchase!
Star Trek makes me feel very warm inside, I´m in love with logic and the word soul is too abstract for me to comprehend. Unless you´re talking about Soul Music ofcourse, I do know a thing or two about that.


I'm pretty sure "soul" basically means a personality with human-like qualities, especially those involving NT emotional characteristics.



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09 Oct 2011, 4:32 pm

swbluto wrote:
pokerface wrote:
purchase wrote:
I must have a very different kind of Asperger's. Robots, stoicism, Star Trek etc all give me a cold sad empty feeling. There needs to be a soul in things for me. Logic and acceptance of what is can get you far but the things in life that have meant most and made me the happiest involved feeling taking over and a break from the limits of logic and circumstance.


What a pity purchase!
Star Trek makes me feel very warm inside, I´m in love with logic and the word soul is too abstract for me to comprehend. Unless you´re talking about Soul Music ofcourse, I do know a thing or two about that.


I'm pretty sure "soul" basically means a personality with human-like qualities, especially those involving NT emotional characteristics.


Are NON NT-characteristics not human-like? 8O



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09 Oct 2011, 4:39 pm

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swbluto wrote:
pokerface wrote:
purchase wrote:
I must have a very different kind of Asperger's. Robots, stoicism, Star Trek etc all give me a cold sad empty feeling. There needs to be a soul in things for me. Logic and acceptance of what is can get you far but the things in life that have meant most and made me the happiest involved feeling taking over and a break from the limits of logic and circumstance.


What a pity purchase!
Star Trek makes me feel very warm inside, I´m in love with logic and the word soul is too abstract for me to comprehend. Unless you´re talking about Soul Music ofcourse, I do know a thing or two about that.


I'm pretty sure "soul" basically means a personality with human-like qualities, especially those involving NT emotional characteristics.


Are NON NT-characteristics not human-like? 8O


Well, literally they are, but when people think of "human-like", they are thinking of NTs, primarily, and not that emotionless weirdo over there. Those types are like robots. :D

I like robots. :wink:



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09 Oct 2011, 4:47 pm

swbluto wrote:
purchase wrote:
I must have a very different kind of Asperger's. Robots, stoicism, Star Trek etc all give me a cold sad empty feeling. There needs to be a soul in things for me. Logic and acceptance of what is can get you far but the things in life that have meant the most and made me the happiest involved feeling taking over and a break from the limits of logic and circumstance.


You have the NT kind of aspergers. :P

More seriously, I'm guessing you might just be a part of the variation within the aspergers population, and many aspies who don't identify with stoicism probably would avoid this thread because it isn't interesting, so naturally you'd seem like an out-liar in this thread.

But, based on your other posts and my "impression" of you, I'm guessing ... MAYBE... you have something similar to aspergers but not *really* and the psychologist who diagnosed you may have had aspergers as their pet disorder. I can't really guess what the look-alike disorder might be, but something like adhd/add might be more accurate. Heck, it might even be simple giftedness.


That's what I thought initially, that it was something like it but not really, then I bought into the diagnosis. The diagnosis was "borderline Asperger's" by the way. Well! Now I'm starting to suspect that I don't have it again based on your impression! Much appreciated, thank you!



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10 Oct 2011, 3:55 am

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10 Oct 2011, 4:00 am

My mom was this way when we were growing up. I didn't think it was a good thing to accept everything like she did, and I swore I'd never be that way when I was her age, but I am.


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10 Oct 2011, 10:10 pm

Stoicism is the technique I use when I cannot be distracted like when I have to finish something. Otherwise I tend to assign too much meaning to everything. So I am not really stoic, I just tend to dissociate a bit. There were years of my life when I intentionally turned off most of my emotions except for the most normal. I was afraid that focusing on anything other than the difficulties of those times would distract me and that all matters would consequentially worsen, even though I was not in control of most of what occured anyway. I had to be vigilant because the possibility of encountering even one more stressful event filled me with trepidation. Everything felt grey, flat, and vague, so I purposely ignored anything that would make me feel empty and somnolent. In addition I forced myself to beleive that suppressing distractions would be liberating. I did not even care if I had not friends or never had a boyfriend. All I cared about was not becoming dysfunctional and catatonic, not sticking out, not dissapointing my parents, and not failing my classes. I could not even concentrate on my responsibilities without worrying about trivialities that girls my age obsessed over. Other than trying to appear respectable, the rest of my attention was diverted to filtering out all potential triggers that would evoke thoughts of miserable occurences. The most distantly related words and objects had the potential to trigger such reactions. I was also terrified of happiness because I could not adjust to changing emotions. Nothing out of the ordinary had occured, yet a lot of hardships hit my family and I in a compressed amount of time. I was only an adolescent then so I was not very resilient. I have mostly come to the conclusion that stoics are unhappy.



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11 Oct 2011, 4:52 am

I have definitely felt myself 'switch off' to endure people's harassment at times and also do the same with physical pain.



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12 May 2015, 4:58 am

I personally feel stoïcism is the only way to cope with life as an autist. I never seem to controll emotions because it usually leads to bad decisions. However the only downside of stoicism is: when you wish to pursue a happy and merry life because supreme happiness can only be achieved when having a ups and downs.

I became more stoic after being bullied, for a bully is only interested in a reaction of the victim

I do really like to hold on to a happy emotion so you can not really say that I am a pure stoïc, but the idea of stoïcism really speaks to me

BTW english isn't my 1st language so don't mind me language