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24 Oct 2011, 4:45 pm

Joe90 wrote:
It's actually a rhetorical question.

It means people with AS seem to think that NTs have no interests, when every NT I've met has an interest in at least something. A lot of men like cars, or football, or computers, and etc, and a lot of women like shopping, cooking, TV Soaps, and etc. If NTs had no interests then they must be very boring people who sit staring into space all day,

Cars, football, computers, shopping, cooking, TV soaps etc aren't really interests though. They are merely the "safe" topics that NTs use to have shallow conversations about, so that they don't have to really get to know each other, yet can still feel connected in that superficial way of theirs that binds "society" together.



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24 Oct 2011, 5:19 pm

IDontGetIt wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
It's actually a rhetorical question.

It means people with AS seem to think that NTs have no interests, when every NT I've met has an interest in at least something. A lot of men like cars, or football, or computers, and etc, and a lot of women like shopping, cooking, TV Soaps, and etc. If NTs had no interests then they must be very boring people who sit staring into space all day,

Cars, football, computers, shopping, cooking, TV soaps etc aren't really interests though. They are merely the "safe" topics that NTs use to have shallow conversations about, so that they don't have to really get to know each other, yet can still feel connected in that superficial way of theirs that binds "society" together.


For some people they are mere safe topics to build small talk around. For others they are very intense interests that they can get quite obsessed about.



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24 Oct 2011, 8:15 pm

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Tell me why this annoys the hell out of me! :roll:


Because it's nonsense?
Because the hypocrisy of that type of NT-bashing while simultaneously whining about how they discriminate against us is sickening?
Because people who claim to be logical thinkers and then come up with things like that, which can be refuted by simple observation, are *insert uncomplimentary term of your choice here*?


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24 Oct 2011, 8:54 pm

Because it's a game that I refuse to play, because NTs and Aspies are made of the same stuff.


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24 Oct 2011, 9:37 pm

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Joe90 wrote:
Tell me why this annoys the hell out of me! :roll:


Has this been said?


No but it's been clearly hinted.


Has it? I'm not all that good at reading hints into things, and I don't recall reading anyone saying that NTs can't have interests.



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25 Oct 2011, 12:21 am

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It is wrong.
NT's like sports. YUCK!! !


A possible stereotype of "NT" simplemindedness? Perhaps senseless beer guzzlers who are rooting for their hometown team? :P

Looking at American Football, it is technical when you get down to the plays on offense and defense. There are clever detailed strategies employed on the field, in real-time that suggests complex thinking on all parts-- from the Head Coach down to the players.

Baseball is the same when it comes down to pitching or throwing strikes, throwing non-strikes (balls), changing the speed, throw location and ball movement, all in permutations in regard to many variables.

Even from a spectator's view it's more than a 'rumble' or feelings such as pride that can arise from having a home town team.

In many ways it's a game like any other, even chess.



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25 Oct 2011, 12:31 am

I had a brief period where soccer became a near-special interest of mine because it was a game like any other.

I disengaged from it because ultimately I prefer participatory entertainment over spectator entertainment.



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25 Oct 2011, 3:58 am

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I disengaged from it because ultimately I prefer participatory entertainment over spectator entertainment.

I agree. It's OK to watch some top level sport in moderation but i think it's really something that should be done not watched.



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25 Oct 2011, 4:13 am

nostromo wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
I disengaged from it because ultimately I prefer participatory entertainment over spectator entertainment.

I agree. It's OK to watch some top level sport in moderation but i think it's really something that should be done not watched.


Yeah. In general I really dislike sports. The only time I ever enjoyed PE, though, was playing soccer.

Most of my preferred games are on computers or paper. :)

I did practice capoeira for awhile, although that's not technically a sport.



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16 Feb 2012, 1:16 am

The difference may be that aspie interests may be more inclined towards participatory engagement and creation over being a spectator or consumer? Some of them with real world applications. And certainly purposely acquiring more knowledge on the subject with a inherent need to share it. The subject is the matter, not the conversation about it.



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16 Feb 2012, 2:15 am

I think NTs have interests but they r always too mundane:
Sports
Their children
Gossip
Vulgarity
Their snowmobile
Their vacation at the dominican republic
A cake
and so on... they can talk for hours, but they r saying nothing.



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16 Feb 2012, 3:06 am

Suspie wrote:
I think NTs have interests but they r always too mundane:
Sports
Their children
Gossip
Vulgarity
Their snowmobile
Their vacation at the dominican republic
A cake
and so on... they can talk for hours, but they r saying nothing.

This is just as harmful as saying that all aspies are interested in math science and computers.

I hear some horrible things about NTs on WP and it angers me. I don't know why some aspies view themselves as superior and more intelligent then NTs.


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16 Feb 2012, 3:59 am

Suspie wrote:
I think NTs have interests but they r always too mundane:
Sports
Their children
Gossip
Vulgarity
Their snowmobile
Their vacation at the dominican republic
A cake
and so on... they can talk for hours, but they r saying nothing.

I think what you are saying is that seems mundane..For you :)
To them they may find such things interesting (and discussing such things serves a social purpose separate from the things itself).
My son who is autistic is extremely interested in leaves and twigs at the moment.
So its different for different people. Except of course for parfait, "everybody like parfait".



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16 Feb 2012, 4:01 am

No bashing of cake. Stop it! 8O

JSYK, another thing that might be different locally - most male Aspies I know are actually interested in sports.


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16 Feb 2012, 4:04 am

Come on now, people from all walks of life have a wide and colorful array of interests, whether or not they're on the spectrum. Do you really think every musician, poet, novelist or artist is an autistic? Every SCUBA diver, sky diver, or mountain climber? Every volcanologist? Entomologist? Marine biologist? You get the idea. There are way too many people on this planet for the majority to be sitting around all day gossiping or drinking beer. Most people are pretty interesting!



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16 Feb 2012, 6:39 am

Nearly every NT male here in the UK are obsessed with Football(soccer) its all they want to talk about. Soon as somebody finds out which city your from they instantly start talking about your local team. If you say you dont like football they think your wierd or gay. There is even a saying around where i live "never trust a man who doesnt like football"