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26 Oct 2011, 12:23 am

I'll let you know in two years.


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26 Oct 2011, 12:39 am

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Even though some of us may have social difficulties that others don't have and that might affect common paths to wealth, I don't feel like that should be a blockade to achieving your financial dreams and providing for a secure future free of worries that plague those living paycheck to paycheck or those who are broke. If your relationships with others tend to suck, then might as well compensate by becoming and being extremely rich, right?


IMO that is going to be a giant impediment. Most people get jobs (IIRC the stat is 80%) through personal connections, which seems a common problem for ASD folk. And if you want to climb the ladder to high places you usually need to be able to win the approval of others (what made Steve Jobs more famous than Wozniak?) The Dale Carnegie stuff.

If you are very, very brilliant it might be enough alone, but I don't personally believe that "Dr. House" (guy who is so brilliant that he can treat his co-workers like crap and get away with it) happens very often in real life. There are too many other brilliant people around who have ability not to piss off their coworkers. (And even brilliant people who know how to work social politics to their advantage.)



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26 Oct 2011, 12:47 am

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Even though some of us may have social difficulties that others don't have and that might affect common paths to wealth, I don't feel like that should be a blockade to achieving your financial dreams and providing for a secure future free of worries that plague those living paycheck to paycheck or those who are broke. If your relationships with others tend to suck, then might as well compensate by becoming and being extremely rich, right?


IMO that is going to be a giant impediment. Most people get jobs (IIRC the stat is 80%) through personal connections, which seems a common problem for ASD folk. And if you want to climb the ladder to high places you usually need to be able to win the approval of others (what made Steve Jobs more famous than Wozniak?) The Dale Carnegie stuff.

If you are very, very brilliant it might be enough alone, but I don't personally believe that "Dr. House" (guy who is so brilliant that he can treat his co-workers like crap and get away with it) happens very often in real life. There are too many other brilliant people around who have ability not to piss off their coworkers. (And even brilliant people who know how to work social politics to their advantage.)


I have a plan and experience in the field in which I plan to expand, I just need to figure out how to not piss my future partner off. If I can't find such a partner or if the partner betrays me, then c'est la vie. An important life lesson will be learned.

(Coincidentally, I'm limiting my capital investment by all means possible, so even if the business crumbles, the financial impact should be minimal.)



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26 Oct 2011, 12:57 am

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I have a plan and experience in the field in which I plan to expand, I just need to figure out how to not piss my future partner off. If I can't find such a partner or if the partner betrays me, then c'est la vie. An important life lesson will be learned.

(Coincidentally, I'm limiting my capital investment by all means possible, so even if the business crumbles, the financial impact should be minimal.)

Well, that does sound like a good plan -- if you are the boss, you can get away with a lot more w.r.t employees. As far a financially firewalling your personal assets, there are "LLC's" "s-corp" and "c-corp" and such (if you don't already know about all that).



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26 Oct 2011, 2:41 am

i've always wondered how aspies would do in the stock market, though i get confused easily by that lol.



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26 Oct 2011, 2:53 am

I lauched a website www.findyourwingman.com it is a website to find a wingman and to go out to meet girls (ot boys if you are a girl) I still havn't gotten rich with that, but it's only a few mouths old. So you can visit the site and click on the adds, that will get me a few cents.



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26 Oct 2011, 3:34 am

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So you can visit the site and click on the adds, that will get me a few cents.
Sorry I use adblock. Didn't see any ads. PM me your paypal address and I'll give you $5. I'm feeling generous.

edit: LOL.



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26 Oct 2011, 3:56 am

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i've always wondered how aspies would do in the stock market, though i get confused easily by that lol.
Most people do, and they're wise to be confused. The stock market is a complex system, which means that tiny inputs can generate huge effects, and you can't tell which tiny inputs will vanish and which ones will snowball. It's much like the weather... seems like it'd be easy to predict at first glance, but the more you look at it the more you see butterflies beating their wings and causing typhoons on the other side of the globe. The stock market is little more than gambling unless you have inside information--which is illegal. However, it's possible to choose companies that are well-established, with a solid history, and to choose many different companies so that you don't lose a lot when one drops in value. It can be a decent place to keep some of your savings, I guess. Better than sticking the money in a bank account and letting inflation chip away at its value.


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26 Oct 2011, 6:11 am

Inside trading in shares will screw your aspie algorithms

Developing ADHD is your best option. Honestly 8O



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26 Oct 2011, 6:23 am

Hmmm ... I'm back down to being a decenaire (I have $11 to my name) ... Soon to be a Unaire, or an Aughtaire.

In my wildest dreams, I'd be a centenaire, which isn't too hard to accomplish. Getting any 2nd job should suffice.

In my "wildest" actual dreams, I am typically pursued by anthropomorphic carnivorous animals in assault tanks. Money doesn't help much with that. Will focus on prosaic reality instead.



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26 Oct 2011, 6:23 am

Isnt Warren Buffet an aspie?



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26 Oct 2011, 6:46 am

I'd recommend putting your energy into doing things that make you happy. If that is money, then follow the money but I don't honestly think that works for most people. Only a very few people are fortunate enough to earn a lot of money doing the thing or things that they enjoy.

I've lived at all points along the financial spectrum at some point except for what would be called "filthy rich" and at no point did my circumstances have any bearing on my happiness. From wanting for nothing as a child, desperately poor in my twenties, earning more money than I could possibly spend in my thirties to career nosedive and zero earnings today.

In my twenties I remember waiting a week at a time with literally no money at all in my pocket, enduring sub zero temperatures because there was no money for heating in winter, breaking open the ends of cigarettes in the ash tray to make another to smoke (yucky I know but I was a smoker then). Yet in many ways these were the most carefree and happy days I have known (or as happy as I can be at any rate).

In contrast when my fortunes turned (through patience and a lot of hard work) money would just pile up in the bank unspent, but I wasn't happy and the stress of the lifestyle I was living ended up in my burnout. I realise that not everyone has problems spending money but to me there is a very low limit to how much I can get through. What would I want with things? Mostly it seems to be conspicuous displays of consumption by people as a way of defining their social status, something I obviously have no interest in.

I know that when you don't have very much of it the idea of lots of money is very attractive, but once you have your basic needs covered there really is very little it can do for you to enhance your quality of life. The only exception to this is the sense of security it may bring, but as I have discovered even that is only a temporary feeling as events can easily overcome even the best laid plans.



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26 Oct 2011, 6:50 am

Peter Howson isn't doing too badly. Here's a sample of what he does:
www.art-company-scotland.com/catalog.as ... talog_id=5
I think the key here is raw talent and unique style.

He was only diagnosed a few years ago. Prior to that, he felt he had been taken advantage of, financially.

Personally, I wouldn't want to be too rich. I don't mind having enough to be comfortable and not worry about having enough to live on in my old age.


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26 Oct 2011, 7:23 am

I'd love to have a lot of money. It's a security thing. But I think it will hyper-inflate soon enough and become worthless. Then security will be found in valuable skills, health, and being able to meet ones needs. People got through the last great depression because they were more resilient and most needs were met, products produced, from within the country.

That's all been given up. Most of our food comes from far away, often other countries. We rarely fix stuff, so we buy a replacement or hire a tradesperson for simple fixit jobs, or do without.

Take back your resilience. Skill up. Grow your own. Then you'll be in a better position than millionaires.


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26 Oct 2011, 7:23 am

i don't have the aspie maths or financial acumen genes, so i must let edward jones & co. do all my financial thinking for me. if it were just up to me, i'd be living under a bridge somewhere. :neutral:



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26 Oct 2011, 7:58 am

swbluto wrote:
Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Even though some of us may have social difficulties that others don't have and that might affect common paths to wealth, I don't feel like that should be a blockade to achieving your financial dreams and providing for a secure future free of worries that plague those living paycheck to paycheck or those who are broke. If your relationships with others tend to suck, then might as well compensate by becoming and being extremely rich, right?


IMO that is going to be a giant impediment. Most people get jobs (IIRC the stat is 80%) through personal connections, which seems a common problem for ASD folk. And if you want to climb the ladder to high places you usually need to be able to win the approval of others (what made Steve Jobs more famous than Wozniak?) The Dale Carnegie stuff.

If you are very, very brilliant it might be enough alone, but I don't personally believe that "Dr. House" (guy who is so brilliant that he can treat his co-workers like crap and get away with it) happens very often in real life. There are too many other brilliant people around who have ability not to piss off their coworkers. (And even brilliant people who know how to work social politics to their advantage.)


I have a plan and experience in the field in which I plan to expand, I just need to figure out how to not piss my future partner off. If I can't find such a partner or if the partner betrays me, then c'est la vie. An important life lesson will be learned.

(Coincidentally, I'm limiting my capital investment by all means possible, so even if the business crumbles, the financial impact should be minimal.)


If you are Aspie, the special interest zeal can make a go of it, no doubt. You have the energy drive to make it a go.

Look at B9s success in this. It is simple, really, the intense interest is there in something marketable and the money flows. And of course there is an element of talent in there.