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15 Nov 2011, 4:21 pm

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Aspies genuinely like the things they're obsessively interested in, and hipsters only pretend to like things, whether they're pretending to like something because they think it's cool or whether they're pretending to like something because it's ironic. Do they actually like Star Trek? Nope, they're just wearing that pre-faded Star Trek t-shirt ironically. Do they actually enjoy listening to that indie band nobody else has ever heard of? Of course not, because they'll abandon that band the moment they become popular. Hipsters are phonier than three dollar bills. Try to engage one in a conversation sometime. It's like talking to a robot.


That used to drive me crazy with the previous generation of hipsters in the 90's. It hasn't changed a bit in the intervening 20 years. The things to like have changed but not the mindset of liking things ironically or primarily because others don't like them.

Back in the day it was Nirvana, and then it wasn't. I was a nerd (and still am) and loved Nirvana as soon as I heard them. Their album Bleach was wonderful. I loved them because I'm a music nerd and loved the sound. Hipsters loved them too. They also played Bleach. Then Nirvana signed a deal with Geffen and made the album Nevermind and became the biggest band of the 90's. It was a far better album than Bleach (which was merely very good) and they fully deserved their fame. But the hipsters dropped them the minute Nirvana got big enough for stadium shows. They moved beyond Nirvana because suddenly "uncool" people liked them.

I wonder if the current generation of hipsters will wear faded Nevermind swimming baby t-shirts now that so much time has passed. Or maybe not enough time has passed and Nirvana still isn't uncool or retro enough to be cool. Hipsters drive me crazy. :evil: They wouldn't drive me crazy if they actually liked the things they embrace. But they seemingly don't. Those things are just a prop rather than an actual source of joy.



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15 Nov 2011, 9:25 pm

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This article is about the contemporary subculture. For the 1940s subculture see Hipster (1940s subculture)

Hipsters (also scenesters[1]) are a subculture of young, recently settled urban middle class adults and older teenagers with musical interests mainly in alternative rock that appeared in the 1990s. Other interests in media would include independent film, magazines such as Vice and Clash, and websites like Pitchfork Media.[2]

Hipster culture has been described as a "mutating, trans-Atlantic melting pot of styles, tastes and behavior[s]."[2] Christian Lorentzen of Time Out New York argues that "hipsterism fetishizes the authentic" elements of all of the "fringe movements of the postwar era—beat, hippie, punk, even grunge," and draws on the "cultural stores of every unmelted ethnicity," and "regurgitates it with a winking inauthenticity."[3] Others, like Arsel and Thompson, argue that hipster signifies a cultural mythology, a crystallization of a mass-mediated stereotype generated to understand, categorize, and marketize indie consumer culture, rather than an objectified group of people.[4]

There you go Sweetyleaf


Well alright then, lol I suppose i cannot be a hipster as I have yet to achieve middle class status. lol



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15 Nov 2011, 9:26 pm

Jory wrote:
Aspies genuinely like the things they're obsessively interested in, and hipsters only pretend to like things, whether they're pretending to like something because they think it's cool or whether they're pretending to like something because it's ironic. Do they actually like Star Trek? Nope, they're just wearing that pre-faded Star Trek t-shirt ironically. Do they actually enjoy listening to that indie band nobody else has ever heard of? Of course not, because they'll abandon that band the moment they become popular. Hipsters are phonier than three dollar bills. Try to engage one in a conversation sometime. It's like talking to a robot.


Wait pretending to like something because they think its cool........normally people do like things they consider cool though.



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15 Nov 2011, 9:46 pm

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Wait pretending to like something because they think its cool........normally people do like things they consider cool though.


The difference is between liking something because you genuinely enjoy it, and liking something simply because you want others to think you're cool for liking it. Hipsters only care about the latter.



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15 Nov 2011, 9:52 pm

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Sweetleaf wrote:
Wait pretending to like something because they think its cool........normally people do like things they consider cool though.


The difference is between liking something because you genuinely enjoy it, and liking something simply because you want others to think you're cool for liking it. Hipsters only care about the latter.


Oh alright, well if that is true they sound like douchebags.......but usually if I think something is cool that means I genuinely enjoy it, because that is what I use cool to mean.



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16 Nov 2011, 12:16 am

Okay that is why they have a bad stigma, they pretend to be into things and like stuff. I don't do that.



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16 Nov 2011, 1:05 am

I could be a hipster if I tried harder. I'd be damned good at it. If I tried harder.

My main problem with "hipsters" actually isn't really with hipsters individually. Individually, I've gotten along with hipsters very well. The problem is, it's just another group to like, feel a sense of belonging in or whatever. No thanks. Like I've been really cool with hipsters individually, but in the hipster "scene" it's like...uh...wtf? It's pretty complex for me to navigate that social group. That, and even hipsters think I'm weird.

As far as similarities with autistics? Well, maybe with autistics on WP? I don't know, my one friend with Aspergers I've known on AIM for like 6 years or so before I got my NVLD diagnosis wears like...Hollister. So not quite a hipster...

To me, the hipster thing is more down to the social group. The clothing and music, etc, is irrelevant, it's all about the social group. People join the hipster social group because they want a place to belong and blah blah blah. So they do hipster things to show off within said social group. It's in some ways a nicer more accepting social group than others, in some ways not. It's your choice if you join it. Me personally, hipsters/stoners I've met think I'm weird. Or they're initially impressed that I like a thing they like, or am knowledgeable about something, but then that gets cancelled out by my listening to Japanese pop and eurodance or something. OH, and I don't do drugs. Seems a lot of them do drugs and party and stuff, which I refuse to do, which makes me a boring James May-like guy. I don't know, I've never gotten like, huge animosity out of hipsters compared to other social groups, just mild animosity to indifference most of the time, with some people that genuinely liked me thrown in the mix.

But as far as Aspies I've met personally and myself, no, not too much in common with hipsters.



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16 Nov 2011, 1:42 am

I have similar music taste and political/social views. Other than that not much in common. I'm a loner nerd. I'm also not completely sold on the definition of hipster as very few people will own up to that label.



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16 Nov 2011, 1:48 am

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I have similar music taste and political/social views. Other than that not much in common. I'm a loner nerd. I'm also not completely sold on the definition of hipster as very few people will own up to that label.


Of course they won't. It's not cool to call yourself one. :wink:



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16 Nov 2011, 1:55 am

I don't know much about hipsters, but I don't think that I have much in common with them. From reading this thread, the hipster group mentality or whatever it is sounds way too socially complicated for me to pick up on or fit into.



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16 Nov 2011, 2:33 am

All I know is that they tend to be mean to me... :?

I like vegan, art, music, politically to the left....and yet most have a ridic sense of arrogance.



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16 Nov 2011, 3:38 pm

Aint many of them undiagnosed very HFA (PDD NOS) functioning in

full neurotypical emulation mode?

I have tried outing a few, they tend to shut down in this weird aspie black and white loop, denying the spectrum.... or any association with a disorder..... of group of people with a disability

To them it is a door to artistic sensibilities, as their finely tuned senses are not so sensitive as to warrant concern....



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16 Feb 2012, 2:12 am

Check this out:

Bacon Loving Hipsters can kiss my ass

That Facebook group is serious. They blame hipsters for the meet industry. How paranoid is that?


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16 Feb 2012, 2:37 am

I've been told I look like a hipster a few times. What irks me is I don't even try to... It's probably the glasses. I also wear lots of well-fitting clothing; although I often have help picking out clothes, so perhaps they've made me look like a hipster, lol.



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16 Feb 2012, 2:43 am

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16 Feb 2012, 3:21 am

As far as I know hipsters are the illegitimate child of the indie and emo scene. It's not a developmental disorder. These people have a choice to be whoever they want. They end up choosing to be a bunch of posers. They don't go the extra mile to be knowledgeable about their interests. It's false advertising for the real geeks.

Yeah. I don't like hipsters. What I believe to be hipsters anyway.
The word has existed for about 60 years. I haven't caught up with its evolution yet.
I'm sure I can find the word in a Kerouac novel though.

If someone called me a hipster because of the glasses I wear (actual prescription lenses) I would punch them in the nose.


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