What is the final fate of people with Asperger syndrome

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27 Nov 2011, 9:04 am

I was diagnosed at 45 and I always wondered why I have so much trouble and still have trouble-I have adapted as best I could but I am very shy and lonely and have problems with prioritizing and multitasking and get overwhelmed easily by things and have meltdowns/shutdowns and have never been in a relationship even though I want to badly-thought I was in one with another aspie but they didn't feel the same and gave it up to another non aspie person on a first date then told me it wasn't an age difference thing like I was led to believe it was my looks and personality-even though aspies don't express feeling like NT's we can still get hurt very badly-I can never get back all the missed experiences that I will never have like the ones my NT peers have had at 15,21,25,30,35,40 I have a memory but no memories like my NT peers


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27 Nov 2011, 10:06 am

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It will more than likely end in death for me, but I still hold out hope that my consciousness will be able to be transferred to a robot wolf and be accompanied throughout eternity by a biologically enhanced flying dogopus.
A robot wolf!? Are you serious!? Dude, they haven't got opposable thumbs! You need a robot monkey, obviously. Sheesh.


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27 Nov 2011, 10:35 am

Callista wrote:
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It will more than likely end in death for me, but I still hold out hope that my consciousness will be able to be transferred to a robot wolf and be accompanied throughout eternity by a biologically enhanced flying dogopus.
A robot wolf!? Are you serious!? Dude, they haven't got opposable thumbs! You need a robot monkey, obviously. Sheesh.


Who needs opposable thumbs with strong jaws and sharp teeth?



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27 Nov 2011, 10:42 am

I think that my fate is to be the body that was found 10 months after i died. I don't really foresee any great change in my circumstances any time this lifetime, just enjoying my time the best i can and waiting for it to end really. Not that im complaining, life is pretty good, i just wish there was more.



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27 Nov 2011, 11:45 am

Good question... My life is a very dark and painful place right now. I am to be tested an diagnosed in December. I'm pretty sure I have AS. I have been struggling all my life: family, school, work. I'm 44yo and I'm at the point I can hardly work and function in life. I haven't heard about AS until few months ago. I thought, and I was told by doctors, that this is just general anxiety but after many years of treatment I haven't seen any hope of recovery. I was seriously considering ending my life as a logical solution to end the misery. Then I learned about AS and it was shocked how much it fits me. So in a way getting a diagnosis might be a relief: I just want to know what's wrong with me. But what next? I really don't know. It'll depend on the diagnosis and what recommendations they'll have for me. I can't do my work for much longer and, considering my state and the state of our economy, my chances for finding an easier and yet a decent job are kind of non-existent. I won't last for long job hunting. So I really don't know. Disability perhaps, if I qualify. Maybe some sick leave to figure things out.

According to Hindu or Buddhism, I can't remember now, life is all about avoidance of pain and seeking of pleasure. It makes sense, really. So if you can't escape the pain and you find no pleasure, your life loses its meaning and purpose.

One thing I have been thinking about, if everything else fails, as an option to the rather irreversible ending of one's life, was to get fired (so I'll get some unemployment money), send my wife back home, sell everything I own, load up a bicycle and go for a long road trip, a bicycle trek across the country and see if I can find a solution to my problems along the way, kind of a mind-reset, or find some pretty place up in the mountains to depart this world.



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27 Nov 2011, 11:59 am

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One thing I have been thinking about, if everything else fails, as an option to the rather irreversible ending of one's life, [...] sell everything I own, load up a bicycle and go for a long road trip, a bicycle trek across the country and see if I can find a solution to my problems along the way, kind of a mind-reset, or find some pretty place up in the mountains to depart this world.


That is precisely what I did a year ago. And although I've considered the mountain ending twice (seriously, literally), I'm still here. I don't know if I've found a "solution" to my problems, per se, but I have gained a lot of perspective and am more accepting of life now. The difficult part has been finding work here and there. I've been biking, and then staying in a place for a few months, trying to find money so I can go on another leg of the tour. Then biking again.


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27 Nov 2011, 12:48 pm

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Many people I've met in therapy settings.


Anecdata =/= evidence.

And, no, I'm not interested in researching this subject because your assertion is nonsense - an anonymous blog linked to Psychology Today, a rubbish pop psychology magazine, and totally without cites - is not exactly peer reviewed material that stands up to scrutiny.

And your second link states
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autistic teenagers and adults might experience feelings of depression and may be at greater risk of suicide
, which contradicts your assertion that
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People who struggle with it, without a DX in adulthood often become very suicidal
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27 Nov 2011, 1:02 pm

Burnbridge wrote:
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One thing I have been thinking about, if everything else fails, as an option to the rather irreversible ending of one's life, [...] sell everything I own, load up a bicycle and go for a long road trip, a bicycle trek across the country and see if I can find a solution to my problems along the way, kind of a mind-reset, or find some pretty place up in the mountains to depart this world.


That is precisely what I did a year ago. And although I've considered the mountain ending twice (seriously, literally), I'm still here. I don't know if I've found a "solution" to my problems, per se, but I have gained a lot of perspective and am more accepting of life now. The difficult part has been finding work here and there. I've been biking, and then staying in a place for a few months, trying to find money so I can go on another leg of the tour. Then biking again.


Seriously? Wow, man! It's great that you made it! I've read a couple of journals on Crazy Guy on a Bike website from people who did that kind of life-resetting trip after a divorce, job failure, midlife crisis, etc., one guy did this to fight his depression off, sans the suicide part (or they didn't mention that part in the journal). Yeah, lots of things can happen in few months while you on the road. I think getting rid of all the junk in your life it's like a great mental purge. Some of them found simple work in a different state, some literally improved so they could start over fresh. I mean, it's worth trying if everything else fails. Also, a Trans Am bike tour was something I've been dreaming of for years now.



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27 Nov 2011, 1:26 pm

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People who struggle with it, without a DX in adulthood often become very suicidal


Cites, please. Or stop with the uninformed generalisations.


Many people I've met in therapy settings. A surprising amount of people I know have had a period where they've contemplated or even attempted suicide because of the struggle to function in society with the challenges of their ASDs. Here's some articles in case my life experiences aren't enough
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/asp ... nd-suicide
http://www.autism-help.org/family-suici ... autism.htm
If you research you'll find more.


Well I was not diagnosed and attempted suicide when I was 15......and still feel suicidal as an adult sometimes and still have not been diagnosed. I mean it can be quite depressing when you can't quite figure out whats different about you and why people treat you like crap for being different so that can probably contribute to feeling suicidal.


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27 Nov 2011, 1:29 pm

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Many people I've met in therapy settings.


Anecdata =/= evidence.

And, no, I'm not interested in researching this subject because your assertion is nonsense - an anonymous blog linked to Psychology Today, a rubbish pop psychology magazine, and totally without cites - is not exactly peer reviewed material that stands up to scrutiny.

And your second link states
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autistic teenagers and adults might experience feelings of depression and may be at greater risk of suicide
, which contradicts your assertion that
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People who struggle with it, without a DX in adulthood often become very suicidal
.


Wow calm down.....even in most psychology classes you learn people who have mental conditions/disorders tend to have a higher rate of suicide then those without. I belive that is all that was being said.


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27 Nov 2011, 1:45 pm

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I've read a couple of journals on Crazy Guy on a Bike website from people who did that kind of life-resetting trip after a divorce, job failure, midlife crisis, etc., one guy did this to fight his depression off, sans the suicide part (or they didn't mention that part in the journal). Yeah, lots of things can happen in few months while you on the road. I think getting rid of all the junk in your life it's like a great mental purge.


It's a pretty intense experience, but in a very slow and contented way. Being on your bike, alone, for 8-12 hours a day does two things that really help with processing, with reevaluating your life:

One, you cut out the social pressures. Not connected to the drama of work and everyday city life, especially if you leave your phone turned off. You're in a rural setting most of the time, and pas through a lot of small towns. Life is different there. You camp out every night somewhere different: I would sleep in a copse of the woods by the side of the road, state parks, abandoned barns...even slept in the animal pens of a county fair site on night.

And two, you have something very physical to do. It's very grounding when most of your time is spent thinking about your water supply, preparing meals, muscle fatigue, looking for a place to camp. Getting that much exercise does wonders for balancing your stress levels, especially if you do not have to reach a specific destination by a specific date. It puts you in an excellent mental place to ruminate on life.

The only drawbacks are that you can't bring a cat, and that food is VERY expensive when you have to eat 5-6 meals a day. Food tends to cost more in rural areas, ironically.

If you're considering of doing this, PM me. There are many things to consider, such as what bike to use, racks v trailers, and so on.


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27 Nov 2011, 2:25 pm

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It's a pretty intense experience, but in a very slow and contented way. Being on your bike, alone, for 8-12 hours a day does two things that really help with processing, with reevaluating your life:

One, you cut out the social pressures. Not connected to the drama of work and everyday city life, especially if you leave your phone turned off. You're in a rural setting most of the time, and pas through a lot of small towns. Life is different there. You camp out every night somewhere different: I would sleep in a copse of the woods by the side of the road, state parks, abandoned barns...even slept in the animal pens of a county fair site on night.

And two, you have something very physical to do. It's very grounding when most of your time is spent thinking about your water supply, preparing meals, muscle fatigue, looking for a place to camp. Getting that much exercise does wonders for balancing your stress levels, especially if you do not have to reach a specific destination by a specific date. It puts you in an excellent mental place to ruminate on life.

The only drawbacks are that you can't bring a cat, and that food is VERY expensive when you have to eat 5-6 meals a day. Food tends to cost more in rural areas, ironically.

If you're considering of doing this, PM me. There are many things to consider, such as what bike to use, racks v trailers, and so on.


Thanks! I've done some bike touring. The longest tour was only two weeks but I have an idea. I've also been hanging around biking forums for years and I can build and maintain my own bikes. I have some problems with route planning and handling the logistics due to my anxiety though, but I noticed it started getting better after about a week: my anxiety would go down. Yeah, I liked the detachment from society, it was very refreshing and the physical side of it was good too. I wanted to do more tours but I couldn't because I don't have enough free time. The two-week ride was an awesome experience.



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27 Nov 2011, 2:51 pm

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how does it all end for people with Asperger's syndrome?


It ends with the police breaking down your door because the neighboors smelled your two week old rotten corpse and after your pets ate the face off your corpse and are now scratching on the door. :P


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27 Nov 2011, 2:57 pm

I would like to travel over every inch of the US then go onto other countries. I want to say I have been to every inch of the world.



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27 Nov 2011, 2:58 pm

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27 Nov 2011, 4:02 pm

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how does it all end for people with Asperger's syndrome


Death - just like for NTs.


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