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Poll ended at 18 Feb 2012, 9:59 am
Option A 53%  53%  [ 21 ]
Option B 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
Option C 20%  20%  [ 8 ]
Option D 15%  15%  [ 6 ]
Total votes : 40

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20 Dec 2011, 12:47 pm

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By the way, Arnoldism, I am not particularly upset by your polls so much as wondering about the purpose. Please don't take this as an indication that you should leave or anything.


Thanks, well I don't think I will use the forums much after I'm finished with this. The polls are really to get autistic people to speak about issues and to have more of a voice. They are issues which I myself have identified and I have also been very opinionated in the questions and my further comments, together these are a bit of a problem in terms of putting words into other peoples mouths or drowning out their opinions but my intention is to get autistic people to take a look at autism in society and to discuss it, not to coerce anyone around to my way of thinking.



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20 Dec 2011, 12:51 pm

Again, one of my favorite quotes from Nietzsche: Be careful lest in casting out demons that you don't cast out the very best thing that's in you. Yes, I can't deal with other people very well, but the flip side of that is I can see things they can't because I don't have all the social filters and such.

As far as other people go, I've generally made my peace with society. Since I have problems dealing with them, it shouldn't come as any surprise that a lot of them will have problems dealing with me. We all have our problems; the question is how we deal with them.



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20 Dec 2011, 1:15 pm

I think it's the AS what gives me hell because it makes me do stupid things and makes me look awkward all the time, and it causes others to laugh or whatever unempathetic things they do. If I didn't have AS (or anything else that makes me awkward), then I would be more socially accepted. Simple as that.


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20 Dec 2011, 2:27 pm

I'd remove my migraines if I can. They're most of my suffering. Unfortunately they're very tied into my being autistic.



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20 Dec 2011, 3:16 pm

AS makes you do stupid things, and that causes others to laugh at you? So it's not the fault of those others? I'm sorry but that's ridiculous.

I suppose that if someone gets bullied, then it's probably because of something they did and it's not the bullies' fault?
Of if someone gets raped, that's also because of something they did, and it's not the rapists' fault?

Sorry, not buying it. (I guess that's your typical aspie self-doubt speaking.)

IMO, if NT people would be more social towards autistic people, they would get many more chances to socialize, and would therefore be more social, and would probably display less behaviour that is considered weird by NT standards. So yeah, I'm 100% in the "their fault" camp.



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20 Dec 2011, 3:24 pm

I voted "A". If, at least some people would be more understanding with me... Ok, no real complaints here, I have some friends and acquaintances. I miss a girlfriend / mate very much, though... :(


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20 Dec 2011, 7:48 pm

My autism makes the world an uncomfortable place to be, so, in that, I blame autism.

People's negative reactions exacerbates my autism, so, in that respect, I blame other people.

Mostly; however, I get to choose how I think about the things that happen to me, so, in that respect, it's my fault. As to "free will," I'll buy that no free will exists when someone can give me the definite physical evidence that I was compelled by forces other than myself to use the word "exacerbates" as opposed to "makes it worse."

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20 Dec 2011, 8:45 pm

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I don't think there is any kind of suffering but self-inflicted and chosen. Triggers come and go, the reaction is your choice alone. The question is mistaken.


I find that statement quite repulsive to be honest.

Is rape self inflicted?
Being mugged and hospitalised?
Multiple Sclerosis?
Leukemia?
Cancer?

What about a child that steps on a land mine?

What about the millions of people that starved to death in the 90's in North Korea?

What about the millions of people that died in the Congo over the last decade because of war?

If a black man is lynched because he is black or a gay man murdered for being gay, I take it the blame also lies with them and not the attackers?



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20 Dec 2011, 9:17 pm

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I'd remove my migraines if I can. They're most of my suffering. Unfortunately they're very tied into my being autistic.
Are those the kind of headaches that get so painful that it makes you wanna puke? Or sensitive to light?



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20 Dec 2011, 10:25 pm

I suffer from both my symptoms and people. I used to live in a place where I could talk about autism (maybe a bit too much) freely but I've since moved to a place where people talk very little of neurological conditions, apart from OCD which is applied to someone in the house being disturbed by clutter so is used inaccurately. I'm still too nervous to bring this point up.
Back at my old house I was still yelled out for having meltdowns and told to snap out of shut downs. Here I am treated like I have autism without it being named. I'd feel so much better if I could just talk about my issues. I'm having meltdowns over my failure to toilet train my cat. Actually it's re-toilet train.

The environment has exacerbated my sensory issues because there's no real escape from them. How am I to explain sensory overload to people who don't even think I could have autism?

So yeah, both. Was that C? I chose C.


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20 Dec 2011, 10:36 pm

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I'd remove my migraines if I can. They're most of my suffering. Unfortunately they're very tied into my being autistic.
Are those the kind of headaches that get so painful that it makes you wanna puke? Or sensitive to light?

Pretty much.
They seem to start in the back of the head or behind the eyes.
Mine are due to light sensitivity and sometimes following a seizure.


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20 Dec 2011, 11:15 pm

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Chronic fatigue.. anxiety.. severe depression.. episodes of psychosis
I do believe this is caused by my autistic neurology. Like a domino effect



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20 Dec 2011, 11:25 pm

SyphonFilter wrote:
Tuttle wrote:
I'd remove my migraines if I can. They're most of my suffering. Unfortunately they're very tied into my being autistic.
Are those the kind of headaches that get so painful that it makes you wanna puke? Or sensitive to light?


Pounding, severe, headaches on half your head that lead to nausea, sometimes vomiting, severe light sensitivity, severe sound sensitivity and keep you from being able to function even so much as to walk? (You don't need all those traits, but you need most and I have all of them). Yeah, that's a migraine.

Personally I specifically get migraine with aura - auras for migraines being similar to simple partial seizures when it comes to what occurs.

I get migraines from sensory overload, reactions to scents, reactions to stress, dehydration, being too hungry, and such. They're not common, but only because a huge portion of my life is dedicated to avoiding them.



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20 Dec 2011, 11:41 pm

Tuttle wrote:
SyphonFilter wrote:
Tuttle wrote:
I'd remove my migraines if I can. They're most of my suffering. Unfortunately they're very tied into my being autistic.
Are those the kind of headaches that get so painful that it makes you wanna puke? Or sensitive to light?


Pounding, severe, headaches on half your head that lead to nausea, sometimes vomiting, severe light sensitivity, severe sound sensitivity and keep you from being able to function even so much as to walk? (You don't need all those traits, but you need most and I have all of them). Yeah, that's a migraine.

Personally I specifically get migraine with aura - auras for migraines being similar to simple partial seizures when it comes to what occurs.

I get migraines from sensory overload, reactions to scents, reactions to stress, dehydration, being too hungry, and such. They're not common, but only because a huge portion of my life is dedicated to avoiding them.
Really? Because I get these headaches that are so painful that I usually have to lay down somewhere and ask someone to bring me some Excedrin before my head explodes or I puke my guts out. I've only vomited once from these headaches. And they always start with a dull throbbing around the eyes. Plus, I sometimes scream at others to tell them to turn off the lights (though sound isn't a problem). I never know when it's going to strike. But when it does, It. Really. Sucks.



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21 Dec 2011, 12:05 am

SyphonFilter wrote:
Tuttle wrote:
SyphonFilter wrote:
Tuttle wrote:
I'd remove my migraines if I can. They're most of my suffering. Unfortunately they're very tied into my being autistic.
Are those the kind of headaches that get so painful that it makes you wanna puke? Or sensitive to light?


Pounding, severe, headaches on half your head that lead to nausea, sometimes vomiting, severe light sensitivity, severe sound sensitivity and keep you from being able to function even so much as to walk? (You don't need all those traits, but you need most and I have all of them). Yeah, that's a migraine.

Personally I specifically get migraine with aura - auras for migraines being similar to simple partial seizures when it comes to what occurs.

I get migraines from sensory overload, reactions to scents, reactions to stress, dehydration, being too hungry, and such. They're not common, but only because a huge portion of my life is dedicated to avoiding them.
Really? Because I get these headaches that are so painful that I usually have to lay down somewhere and ask someone to bring me some Excedrin before my head explodes or I puke my guts out. I've only vomited once from these headaches. And they always start with a dull throbbing around the eyes. Plus, I sometimes scream at others to tell them to turn off the lights (though sound isn't a problem). I never know when it's going to strike. But when it does, It. Really. Sucks.


Those could in fact be migraines then. The description matches decently, though migraines are typically one-half of the head headaches. Wikipedia has a decent page on migraines.