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21 Jan 2012, 8:44 am

I am jealous...

When I heard of this, I got jealous right away (not just this thread, other areas)...

I can imagine at this level... I do daydream and zone out... but generally I cant consciously do this in long term.

I can easily have a face to face conversation with someone in my head, especially if it requires getting my point across and I can imagine them moving as I do so but I cannot create stories and entire worlds :(

I read a book a while back called "The Place" by TM Wright that is no longer in print about a girl that I believe he was describing as autistic who had her own world and I used to think it was sooooo neat...

oh well... I guess its ok :(


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21 Jan 2012, 10:29 pm

would you describe it as being "your other world" that you escape to?
Yes, I go there when I'm bored and when I'm trying to get sleep.

Are there people in the world?
Yes, but there aren't only humans, that would be boring.

If there are people, have you developed them to have separate characteristics from yourself?
Yes

Do you make yourself as a character in the other world?
Yes, but I also have book/movie characters or characters based on friends or in friend's characters. If there is something after death I would like to be able to to create worlds and play with friends like an MMORPG or shared dream where we can do or be what we want.

What point of view do you see the world? are you seeing it from the characters point of view OR watching over the characters.
From the point of view of the character that I've created for me, sometimes I use 3rd person view but I am still one of the characters.

Do your worlds follow the same laws of nature/physics etc. as earth?
I do respect laws like gravity but most of my worlds have magic and fantastic creatures.

How much time do you spend each day in your other world?
I haven't been so much there this days because I'm being at the computer most of the time and I don't daydream while I'm paying attention to something but I used to daydream most of the time.

Does stimming and movement (ex. pacing around the house) help you to get into the other world?
Yes, when I'm at my room or alone I walk around my home and sometimes imitate what I'm doing at the other world, I remember my mum entering to my room and found me on forth (I was a cheetah :lol: )

If there is more than one character in your world, do you create them to have a wide variety of different personality types?
yes

If you have come forward to someone about your world, do they often assume it might be a multiple personality disorder?
No

If you've told people about it, how do they react?
Normally(?), I have only talked about it with online friends, most of them daydream too. I don't think it's something abnormal(writters create worlds), but not all people do it because they are interested/occuped by other things.
I feel very identified with the kids from the movie Bridge to Terabithia, I have played like that with my sister and once with three little kids that I had to look after. It was amazing because they could see what we were imagining, they argued for an imaginary plane, two of them wanted the same blue plane, they could just imagine another one but they didn't, they argued like it was real.

If you have not told anyone about it, why not?
I haven't told it to my parents or RL friends because I don't think is necesary and I would feel embarrassed, I feel it so personal, I also have problems for writting stories or creating characters for role-playing games like D&D

How long have you been in your other world? years, months?
At least 7 years.

Do you have more than one other world?
Yes, most of them are movie or book based(Harry Potter, Animorphs, Alien vs Predator, Werewolf the apocalyse), but I also have some "rooms" (not big enough to call them worlds) where I have conversations with some of my characters, I ask them for advise or I tell them things (I use them as psychologists, once I talked to my brain :lol: ), and I learn new things about myself, I get answers to questions I didn't know I knew. But sometimes I fall in paradox(?), like this one:

-The problem is that I have spent more time talking to your imaginary you than your real you... Ouch! I'm doing it again.

And I have a room that I've created to work on my self following intructions from a book(The power of alpha thinking), but most of the times I try to get in there I get sleep :lol:, the last time I went there I had to clean it because I hadn't been there for many time and it was full of ugly things I fear, but I have put some of my world's characters as guards (They won't defeat my dragon, my werewolf and my toy poodle 8))



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22 Jan 2012, 6:35 am

Wow!
It might be an Aspergian problem.
Just like me in my post.
-would you describe it as being "your other world" that you escape to?
Yes.It is another different world.
-Are there people in the world?
There are many people in the world.
-If there are people, have you developed them to have separate characteristics from yourself?
Yes,they have different nationalities,jobs and characters.
-Do you make yourself as a character in the other world?
Yes,I am de juro one of the characters.
I am de facto several characters,not only one.
-What point of view do you see the world? are you seeing it from the characters point of view OR watching over the characters.
From the character's point of view.
-If your world does not have people in it, what is in it?
-Do your worlds follow the same laws of nature/physics etc. as earth?
Physically,yes.
Socially,not.
-How much time do you spend each day in your other world?
Less than one hour.
-Does stimming and movement (ex. pacing around the house) help you to get into the other world?
No.the reverse is true.Getting into my story make me stim and pace around the house.
-If there is more than one character in your world, do you create them to have a wide variety of different personality types?
Yes.
For example,the Russian Alexander Borisov is careless while the Dolchavian Joseph Baverich is extremely careful and always keeps his routine.
-If you have come forward to someone about your world, do they often assume it might be a multiple personality disorder?
Yes,always.
-If you've told people about it, how do they react?
I only wrote some of this on love-shy.
They thought that I was trolling and banned me permanently.
-If you have not told anyone about it, why not?
-How long have you been in your other world? years, months?
Maybe ten years.
-Do you have more than one other world?
Yes,many similar worlds.



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22 Jan 2012, 7:13 am

Oh yes! I feel like my day to day life consists of cataloging things for my world. I will often catalog textures, patterns, tastes, physical feelings, and add them to my 'world'. Daily, I sit in my room with the lights off, and the music on in the middle of the night to add to my world 'Cynetca'.

My world doesn't really have characters in it, but it does have scenery, cities, and creatures. More often, I like to imagine different realities of existence. I like to imagine myself as something very small and universal, moving through various patterns, shapes, and colours. Or something infinite and vast, taking up a large enough space that I would need to keep track of various parts of my being by concentrating intently on it. I haven't gotten too big yet, the concept hasn't quite been grasped.

I like to dissect things, and create creatures starting with bones, arteries, organs, muscles, exterior, colours, sounds, living arrangements, behaviours, ect. I want to know how it moves from the inside out, so that it feels more alive to me. It's a lot harder to do this with scenery and architecture, as I don't have a very good grasp of it, but I'm practicing!

I usually set a goal for myself when I go to sleep. I'll try and remember something. Like, "Tonight, I want to know what it feels like to have a paw, and it is a lot easier to feel it and imagine it in my sleep." So I'll set my hand down on the ground, and work on disassociating myself with the digits in my fingers. How would the pressure feel if my fingers were smaller, had thick nails, were round, had pads. I would probably feel the ground with slightly less sensitivity due to thicker skin of the paw pad, but the tissue where each toe connects would be more sensitive. How would it feel to walk with dirt? Mud? Grass? Moss? Ect. If it had fur, then the feeling of the hair on my head would be more similar than bare skin.

At some point, after I'm done with art school, I would like to animate what I'm working on inside my head so that I don't put it to waste. Maybe not so much the patterns, but the various worlds with unique fauna and flora would be interesting to bring to life.

I didn't know anyone else even made up worlds. Until now, it's a secret I've never talked about.


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22 Jan 2012, 7:17 am

Wow, some of you guys are far more creative than me! I guess I tended to create my own "characters" that would interact, but they were a bit less exotic and the worlds less intricate than what many of you have discribed. It segued into creative writing for me, and eventually into my career.

I never thought of it as stimming (since I was never diagnosed as a kid), but I have always paced like crazy when I write. It drove my roommates a bit crazy in college, and it drives people I work with crazy today. But it's something I really have a very hard time controlling. I have always figured it was just being a bit hyperactive, but I guess it probably is just an Aspie thing.

One positive aspect of the whole pacing thing was that in college, I was able to compose whole 10-15 page research papers in my head in just an a half hour or so, then sit down and type them out quickly. I have always had a hard time concentrating, but when I pace, it is as if I am hyper-concentrated and very efficient, both on creative projects and more analytical ones too. But I imagine it must look a bit strange to others.



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22 Jan 2012, 7:51 am

-would you describe it as being "your other world" that you escape to?
Possibly several depending on the definition.

-Are there people in the world?
Both real as well as fictional, perhaps some I just "make up" on my own.

-If there are people, have you developed them to have separate characteristics from yourself?
I think so at least.

-Do you make yourself as a character in the other world?
Not sure. I don't really think about myself too often.

-What point of view do you see the world? are you seeing it from the characters point of view OR watching over the characters.
My own, really.

-If your world does not have people in it, what is in it?
Some crazy architecture, maybe a place I'd find interesting to live in. Guess I'm inspired a bit by games like Halo or Minecraft.

-Do your worlds follow the same laws of nature/physics etc. as earth?
Not always.

-How much time do you spend each day in your other world?
Depends on how much time I spend by myself. Usually when trying to get to sleep.

-Does stimming and movement (ex. pacing around the house) help you to get into the other world?
Nah, it's not that hard for me I guess.

-If there is more than one character in your world, do you create them to have a wide variety of different personality types?
I guess. Since most are based off of people or characters I know, I don't need to try.

-If you have come forward to someone about your world, do they often assume it might be a multiple personality disorder?
Not sure. Usually try to use them as ideas for stories or some kind of artwork, so I don't know whether that should count.

-If you've told people about it, how do they react?
Well some enjoy the stories I've written. :P

-If you have not told anyone about it, why not?
Probably because some are just boring

-How long have you been in your other world? years, months?
Dunno. I've always had imagination, so I'm not sure where the line can be drawn.

-Do you have more than one other world?
Either that or the one is always changing.


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22 Jan 2012, 9:17 am

I experience something simular. It might be totally different, not sure but here it goes.

In earlly child hood, I had a huge inagination. I could be in a bush, with a little keychain/flashlight, and I was like Indiana Jones. (or the female version).

I did have an imaginary friend. I use to wear a long black slip on my head and that was my long black hair. I was always in my room totally immersed in my imaginary playing. I cannot remember when that ended but I do remember still doing it when I was a teen. I remember when I was 12, my Mom being concerned that I was getting a little too old to play with dolls.

I have done something for many years. (since I was a teen). I have a hard time sleeping so, I would pretend. Sometimes it would be that I was in a hospital bed, or in a wagon in a wagon train. Whole scenarios would go through my thought, (the filling of the wagon going over the terrain, pots and pans clanging, etc.

Now sometimes, I do that (only when trying to go to sleep). Sometimes I am drifting in a raft in the middle of the ocean till, I end up on a tropical island in which a hansome man on horseback rescues me and takes me to his home and nurses me back to health. Many times, it is me being cared for by someone.

I guess I do it a little during the day sometimes too like if I am canning about of produce from my garden, I imagine that I have my own little factory, or when stocking my food in the basement and organizing it, I am stocking my old timey (Little House On The Prairy) type store shelves.

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:21 am Post subject: Questions. Imagination and escaping into your own world

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-would you describe it as being "your other world" that you escape to? Never have before, just chalked it up to a very good imagination, and sleep aid.
-Are there people in the world?yes
-If there are people, have you developed them to have separate characteristics from yourself? yes
-Do you make yourself as a character in the other world? yes
-What point of view do you see the world? are you seeing it from the characters point of view OR watching over the characters. I see it through my point of view
-If your world does not have people in it, what is in it?
-Do your worlds follow the same laws of nature/physics etc. as earth? yes
-How much time do you spend each day in your other world? I don't even do it every day, sometimes and hour or so
-Does stimming and movement (ex. pacing around the house) help you to get into the other world? Use to, I use to act it out.
-If there is more than one character in your world, do you create them to have a wide variety of different personality types? Yes, they have different personalities
-If you have come forward to someone about your world, do they often assume it might be a multiple personality disorder? I am sure they would
-If you've told people about it, how do they react? look at me like I have 2 heads. LOL, I have never told anyone
-If you have not told anyone about it, why not? Well, it is silly sounding isn't it? An adult person, playing like a child?
-How long have you been in your other world? years, months? Usually, only about an hour or so at a time but done it all my life.
-Do you have more than one other world? yes



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22 Jan 2012, 10:16 am

Czeslaw_Kowalski wrote:
-Does stimming and movement (ex. pacing around the house) help you to get into the other world?
No.the reverse is true.Getting into my story make me stim and pace around the house.


I didn't notice that, it's true.



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22 Jan 2012, 12:22 pm

Wow thanks everyone for all the responses, this is incredible. :D



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22 Jan 2012, 6:13 pm

Carbon_4 wrote:
1) would you describe it as being "your other world" that you escape to?
2) Are there people in the world?
3) If there are people, have you developed them to have separate characteristics from yourself?
4) Do you make yourself as a character in the other world?
5) What point of view do you see the world? are you seeing it from the characters point of view OR watching over the characters.
6) If your world does not have people in it, what is in it?
7) Do your worlds follow the same laws of nature/physics etc. as earth?
8) How much time do you spend each day in your other world?
9) Does stimming and movement (ex. pacing around the house) help you to get into the other world?
10) If there is more than one character in your world, do you create them to have a wide variety of different personality types?
11) If you have come forward to someone about your world, do they often assume it might be a multiple personality disorder?
12) If you've told people about it, how do they react?
13) If you have not told anyone about it, why not?
14) How long have you been in your other world? years, months?
15) Do you have more than one other world?

1) Yes, I would
2) Yes, there are
3) Yeah, in my main "story" the main character has a very similar personality to me but the rest of the characters are very different
4) No, I'm not a character
5) Sometimes I play as the character who is more similar to me, sometimes I'm just an observer
6) /
7) Some do, some don't
8) It depends, If it's a bad emotional period a very long time (2/3?), otherwise just when I'm alone
9) The two things are related but I'm not sure in which way
10) Yes
11) It seems pretty normal because I draw comics
12) Same here
13) I don't hide it, I am caught drawing too often
14) In normal time or in my world's time?
15) Yes


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23 Jan 2012, 8:04 am

Wow! I just thought of something that I have not thought of in a very long time. I use to get bored in school, hated school and couldn't care less. I would draw a lot and get in trouble for drawing in class. Anyway is was kinda like a comic strip. It had characters, and stories and the story would continue, day after day. The main character was an old lady with a bun in her hair called Grandmama. I was not a character in these stories. I can't even remember what the stories were about. I do remember being very emersed in them and could do it for hours, if I was allowed to. Ah, one character was a princess whole has a bell dress like cinderella.

Before that (I was an only child till age 8, I would draw and cute out paper doll type figures and would do basically the same thing. Mom would get man at me because I would have bits of cut up paper all over my room. She called them Jibblets. Oh how she would fuss about the Jibblets of paper I would make messes with. I would be very immersed in that too.

During hurricane, Camile or Betsy (not sure) we were in a hotel room in New Orleans. She brought me to a drug store to get me something to keep me occupied. We we in the middle of moving to Louisiana from Texas. All my toys were packed up. Why they had not known we were headed right towards a hurricain, I will never know. LOL Anyway, I picked out a paper doll set. Oh how I loved it. I could sit there for hours with it.

Mom use to call me a chatter box because when I was playing I would be talking the whole time, I would be talking like the different characters. For a man, I would have a deep voice, high for a baby etc. Looking back now, I don't think she thought that was normal and come to think of it, I do not remember my children doing that. Maybe when playing with kids with Barbies or some thing. My kids were 2 years apart though so they weren't an only child.

Come to think of it, I do like creating 3D worlds on a 3D chat place. I just started doing it again.



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23 Jan 2012, 10:33 am

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I am quite astonished though. I thought I was the only one who did this sort of thing. :D


me too! except growing up I thought maybe everyone else did it. Then after diagnosis I thought I might be one of very few people who did it, but now I see there must be more. Its very interesting, I dont think its a topic thats often brought up when I read articles explaining aspergers or autism.



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23 Jan 2012, 10:39 am

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Wow! I just thought of something that I have not thought of in a very long time. I use to get bored in school, hated school and couldn't care less. I would draw a lot and get in trouble for drawing in class. Anyway is was kinda like a comic strip. It had characters, and stories and the story would continue, day after day. The main character was an old lady with a bun in her hair called Grandmama. I was not a character in these stories. I can't even remember what the stories were about. I do remember being very emersed in them and could do it for hours, if I was allowed to. Ah, one character was a princess whole has a bell dress like cinderella.

Before that (I was an only child till age 8, I would draw and cute out paper doll type figures and would do basically the same thing. Mom would get man at me because I would have bits of cut up paper all over my room. She called them Jibblets. Oh how she would fuss about the Jibblets of paper I would make messes with. I would be very immersed in that too.

During hurricane, Camile or Betsy (not sure) we were in a hotel room in New Orleans. She brought me to a drug store to get me something to keep me occupied. We we in the middle of moving to Louisiana from Texas. All my toys were packed up. Why they had not known we were headed right towards a hurricain, I will never know. LOL Anyway, I picked out a paper doll set. Oh how I loved it. I could sit there for hours with it.

Mom use to call me a chatter box because when I was playing I would be talking the whole time, I would be talking like the different characters. For a man, I would have a deep voice, high for a baby etc. Looking back now, I don't think she thought that was normal and come to think of it, I do not remember my children doing that. Maybe when playing with kids with Barbies or some thing. My kids were 2 years apart though so they weren't an only child.

Come to think of it, I do like creating 3D worlds on a 3D chat place. I just started doing it again.


I remember doing similar things as a kid. In addition to my imagination I would like to have physical ways of creating too, I would draw story books/comics. I probably played with dolls til I was 12, and it was hard to accept that I was too old for it. Then someone introduced me to playing The Sims 2 and that helped a lot, I still play sims games on the computer.



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23 Jan 2012, 10:47 am

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Do you have more than one other world?
Yes, most of them are movie or book based(Harry Potter, Animorphs, Alien vs Predator, Werewolf the apocalyse), but I also have some "rooms" (not big enough to call them worlds) where I have conversations with some of my characters, I ask them for advise or I tell them things (I use them as psychologists, once I talked to my brain :lol: ), and I learn new things about myself, I get answers to questions I didn't know I knew. But sometimes I fall in paradox(?), like this one:

-The problem is that I have spent more time talking to your imaginary you than your real you... Ouch! I'm doing it again.

And I have a room that I've created to work on my self following intructions from a book(The power of alpha thinking), but most of the times I try to get in there I get sleep :lol:, the last time I went there I had to clean it because I hadn't been there for many time and it was full of ugly things I fear, but I have put some of my world's characters as guards (They won't defeat my dragon, my werewolf and my toy poodle 8))


I remember I started creating a world that was based around the Hellboy movies, where there were a whole-bunch of non human creatures living secretly in a world with humans. it didnt last more than a couple months, but its interesting to have non-human characters.
I've never had anything like the "rooms" I find that very interesting.



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23 Jan 2012, 10:52 am

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Oh yes! I feel like my day to day life consists of cataloging things for my world. I will often catalog textures, patterns, tastes, physical feelings, and add them to my 'world'. Daily, I sit in my room with the lights off, and the music on in the middle of the night to add to my world 'Cynetca'.

My world doesn't really have characters in it, but it does have scenery, cities, and creatures. More often, I like to imagine different realities of existence. I like to imagine myself as something very small and universal, moving through various patterns, shapes, and colours. Or something infinite and vast, taking up a large enough space that I would need to keep track of various parts of my being by concentrating intently on it. I haven't gotten too big yet, the concept hasn't quite been grasped.

I like to dissect things, and create creatures starting with bones, arteries, organs, muscles, exterior, colours, sounds, living arrangements, behaviours, ect. I want to know how it moves from the inside out, so that it feels more alive to me. It's a lot harder to do this with scenery and architecture, as I don't have a very good grasp of it, but I'm practicing!

I usually set a goal for myself when I go to sleep. I'll try and remember something. Like, "Tonight, I want to know what it feels like to have a paw, and it is a lot easier to feel it and imagine it in my sleep." So I'll set my hand down on the ground, and work on disassociating myself with the digits in my fingers. How would the pressure feel if my fingers were smaller, had thick nails, were round, had pads. I would probably feel the ground with slightly less sensitivity due to thicker skin of the paw pad, but the tissue where each toe connects would be more sensitive. How would it feel to walk with dirt? Mud? Grass? Moss? Ect. If it had fur, then the feeling of the hair on my head would be more similar than bare skin.

At some point, after I'm done with art school, I would like to animate what I'm working on inside my head so that I don't put it to waste. Maybe not so much the patterns, but the various worlds with unique fauna and flora would be interesting to bring to life.

I didn't know anyone else even made up worlds. Until now, it's a secret I've never talked about.


Thats amazing! I was wondering how people who dont have human characters in their worlds experience it. I think this would be a great tool to have with a career in design or animation



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23 Jan 2012, 10:59 am

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Wow, some of you guys are far more creative than me! I guess I tended to create my own "characters" that would interact, but they were a bit less exotic and the worlds less intricate than what many of you have discribed. It segued into creative writing for me, and eventually into my career.

I never thought of it as stimming (since I was never diagnosed as a kid), but I have always paced like crazy when I write. It drove my roommates a bit crazy in college, and it drives people I work with crazy today. But it's something I really have a very hard time controlling. I have always figured it was just being a bit hyperactive, but I guess it probably is just an Aspie thing.

One positive aspect of the whole pacing thing was that in college, I was able to compose whole 10-15 page research papers in my head in just an a half hour or so, then sit down and type them out quickly. I have always had a hard time concentrating, but when I pace, it is as if I am hyper-concentrated and very efficient, both on creative projects and more analytical ones too. But I imagine it must look a bit strange to others.


haha I find my pacing very hard to control, I dont always notice what my body is doing I'm so concentrated on what I'm thinking. I usually notice it when I get injured tho, I could jump and land funny on my foot, with no intention of jumping in the first place, or slide into a wall. Never any serious injuries. I just get so focused and excited sometimes in my worlds. I live in a basement under my family's house now so it doesnt bother anyone, But next year I plan to move for college and be in residence. I've been thinking about how I will manage it there, I dont want to disturb anyone :P