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Mostly what I was thinking is I help with brainstorming and ideas and help with building the website if needed and if necessary build it my self (although I may not be the best one for the job though since I am not the best at building websites and coding, but I can and would learn), other then that what I am mostly interested in is my actually getting my hands dirty with building a local autistic community and getting this web site idea off the ground so to help others like our selves and to help fund these kind of projects if possible. once I get on a roll I tend to get ideas pouring out of me, esp when it comes to projects I am interested in and focused on.
so no, I would not be the best one to run things, but I am willing to take a large part of the load to get things started if no one else will. as for actually getting payed for a job, I was thinking more down the lines of If we actually did start building on a community locally, then I would place all my time into it if possible and wouldn't mind doing so as a long term job. other then that my people skills are much like other Aspies and I would burn out fast if I ran acrossed too much conflict.. as for managing funds we can vote someone to do so possibly, I know I can be trusted but I wouldn't want to deal with any of the crap of people fighting over it.

for the most part if the people at wrongplanet will do so it may be best to see if they will add some of the ideas and projects and expand on them with wrongplanet since its already grounded and taken off as a website, this will also help there funds and we would be helping our selves as well.
the question is though if they are willing to add and put that much more work behind it all and willing to make a setup that we all can work with/on and as a people work with and choose where the funds goto and are used after costs.

Yep cool. I understand now. (brain needs as many bits of the jigsaw as possible to see the picture). Sorry about that.

Do you think the best place to start is with the book idea. Get people to start submitting pieces. Maybe for the first 6 months it can be poetry. Then next time something else.
Next question is wether WP want to do that through this site. If so cool, if not no problem. We then know the first step would be to set up site for book idea ready for growth.
I think the book idea is best because my brain cant think of too many other things. PLUS... it gives the community the opportunity to get personally involved with solid results of their hands on as a result. Wether they submitt work or vote.
Then publishing comes into question. I don't know what E-Books are so I can't understand why people would buy them. But if they do, it may be a cheap option to start with. Personally I love books. I love the feel and the smell and the look of books. As well as that, somewhere on a post here someone was talking about PRINT ON DEMAND where its printed as its ordered. I don't know too much about that either. I will find the post and check it out because there was a link too.

What do you think would be a good start point?

I think it would be good to support you in what you are doing, because if we can make it work in one place, we can model that and make it work in other places internationally supporting each other. And if you don't mind me saying aspergian mutant, you have been through the wringer. With that experience what you have to offer people comes from your heart and not from reading about it. Couldn't have a better resume.

ElfMan

With the book idea we do not have to do just one at a time, we can have an arts/poetry/autistic/etc sections so people can choose, the thing about us working together on things is that after people put so much time and effort into the work and their ideas and the like and when its done, people will most likely not only want to back its publishing but also buy it for them selves and pass the word as it being a good book for autistics.

OK lets see if we can brainstorm this book idea into existence if we all agree its a good thing to create, first off I think it would be best to keep the programing simple so no one has to download anything to work with it past perhaps java and HTML coding.

I picture in my mind something like the main book page, then a person clicks on the subject/chapter and it takes them to that chapter and give new directions to what part of that chapter their interested on working with.
also optionally they may choose just to read the book its self with editing options off. also for the actual editors (so to keep the trolls and debunker's and spammers out of the editors) we may need a 3 fold membership, just like wrongplanet being that only the most trusted can edit the actual book.
where others members can add suggestions and vote and non members can only read the book.

we would have to come up with subject matters for what chapters and what order there in, for basic starters perhaps we start off with what is autisms and then proceed according to ages of individuals affected first then other subject matter after.

on the editors the people may do as they do on WP and post according to chapter and/or subject and/or paragraph and/or page numbers, with the listings to the side of whats posted so others may click on it and read and debate the thoughts and ideas and where it should be added and how, or just vote the idea out entirely, and if the idea sounds good and is a sound idea and is voted in with a high ranking then the high members that can edit the actual book and add the thoughts and words to the actual book. and in the editor while not added to the book yet at the scrolling bottom on the screen perhaps whats been agreed upon so far and if it looks good then the main members can just copy paste whats been voted in, perhaps even when a voting get so high with a certain number of voters then the thought/words are automatically added below, there should also be an option for adding reference posts that goto the bottom of pages and the like, this is on the books, on art and music books/works the Arther's can be added instead.

these are just ruff draft ideas people, perhaps you can see what I may be overlooking and add your thoughts on this, come on lets brainstorm this.
spelling editors, grammar editors etc may also help.

also at the end of the book would need to be an index,
we would need to be careful or this book could turn into an encyclopedia and many like to read a handy book over paying for an expensive encyclopedia.

when done and if done right when we are finished then alls we would have to do is hit print, each page should shift into new pages so as to keep it all shored/formated up for printing.

or

Perhaps I am just letting my imagination get the best of me...........

Sounds good. I am no good at web sites as you can see from my practice run web site I have already.

Might be a good idea at this point to get opinions of the idea and wether people would be interested in submitting work. I can see this post has had lots of sightings but not many replies.

What are you other members thinking about what aspergian mutant is suggesting with the book site/etc idea? What comments do you have? There is not much point setting up something that does not work for people, so opinions would be ideal.

Do you like the idea?
Do you dislike the idea?
Do you have a different idea?
Do you have no idea?



ElfMan

I think it's a wonderful idea. I feel that we should do all that we can to raise money for our site. I like the idea about the different books on all the different subjects. This can benefit us in two ways. Of course we would be making money, but at the same time, the public can get a First Person account on what it's like to be on the Spectrum. I like this idea, very much.

As you can see many want to already share their poetry and arts and cooking and story's and words of helping others and them selves here on these forums, its all here already, it just needs a direction and a place to be placed and worked with/on as in those books and also places for trade and the like given. it can be done.

Thanks CockneyRebel.

Yep. I agree aspergian mutant. I too am one who needs direction. you see I love this idea and I would also be a particapant, so I want to help, but I'm in way over my head. What can I do to help?

ElfMan

By the way Alex. I've been thinking about the wallpapers and screensavers for WP and I beleive that I would want one in the format of WrongPlanet.

My offer is still there but I have decided it may not be the best solution. And that a WrongPlanet one could be better.

ElfMan

Alex, I have no idea how to make wallpapers and screensavers yet. If I did I would be glad too. I will look into it though. Hopefully there may be a member here who knows how and wouldn't mind offering to create it.

Is there anyone out there that can help with this?

And if we get someone savvy with making these, maybe then we could produce screensavers of different themes of the different artwork of those on the spectrum. We could have that on aspergian mutant's site too. Just an idea.

ElfMan

Sorry Alex. I'm having trouble figuring out what you are saying.

I'm not sure if you are asking me to design one in WrongPlanet colours or if you are saying to send you some art I've already done and leave a spot to put the WP Logo. And you will put the art into a WP format. And I'm not sure if I'm just confusing you more.

I have to say this is the most conversation I have had in the last couple of months so I am feeling a bit slow when it comes to understanding, sorry.

ElfMan

Maybe it could be a competition where members submit their creation of a picture for WP wallpaper and the winner gets their picture used for the wallpaper. We could vote for the winner.

It could be called the WP wp competition. (just joking)
ElfMan

My Mother in Law lives in a community like that. It isn't a commune, as most people work outside of the compound, as I call it, as doctors, professors, healthcare workers, etc. Some people work for the community and are paid a wage to do so. They do things like grounds maintenance, fire protection, building maintenance, etc. They also work in the general store, which carries organic foods, homeopathic and herbal medicines and more.

They have 830 acres in the Sierra Nevada Mountains. It is gorgeous up there.

They live together because they all have a common consciousness. My mother in law likes it, b/c she has a lot of environmental and food sensitivities and they cater to that by the nature of the community they have created.

The big problem that I see is that the longer she lives there, the less she is able to function in society and within our family. She is used to her needs being accomodated constantly and when they aren't she gets pissed off and she is surprised.

She finally admitted that she is less able to tolerate outside society and other points of view, b/c everyone where she lives agree with her and are just as weird as she is.

Thank G-d she realized this, b/c hopefully she realizes that living with us would be a disaster, as I won't cater to her needs. I have enough of my own, as well as my husband's and my infant daughter's needs to take care of.

I guess my point is that a community like the one you are talking about, would be a mixed blessing.

Tallgirl.

Is she aspie?

I am still trying to wrap my brain around the rest of Tim's post, but the community part of it was something we've talked about at length. I was thinkign of soemthign smilar to a Camphill village, except where the people would own the part of the land that their home is on, and their own garden, rather than it all being community owned. One thign I hate about communes is that wiht most of them, when you join, you contribute everything you have. You can live there for twenty years...and give it your all...and when you live, you leave with only the shirt on your back. I don't like that.