In what ways are Aspies "luckier" that NT's?

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09 Mar 2012, 10:11 am

I'm not luckier than NTs. I think that having AS is unlucky, and causes grief throughout my entire life. Giving off vibes (due to difficulties giving off correct body language or having a ''kink'' in my body language) makes me unlucky for a start, because it jeopardises me from ever being able to get anywhere, like get a job (due to poor expression at interviews no matter how hard I try to be proffessional), and making friends (I can't tell you what is odd about the way I interact but there is something there, again a slight ''kink'' in my social personality, otherwise I would have more friends), and so it seems to affect me in such a tiny way no matter what I do to improve, and I can never quite put my finger on what needs to be changed about me, since the oddities are so minor yet they affect me in a harsh way.

I consider that all just to be bad luck. I am very unlucky, just by having AS itself, especially it being as mild as it is, because I am aware of what I'm missing or struggling with yet I have difficulties improving because I know I will always screw it up.

Plus I'm not very clever either. I have just under average IQ, and I find logic very hard (if logic is the right word, I don't know).


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09 Mar 2012, 10:16 am

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8. Logical Decision Making
Your ability to make logical and rational decisions and stick to your course of action without being swayed by impulse or emotional reactions allows you to navigate successfully through difficult situations without being pulled off-course.


I'm ever skeptical of this claim, I don't see any more or less logic in autistics, but people mistake "articulate" for "logical".


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09 Mar 2012, 11:58 am

We don't need social contacts and relationships as much as NT's do.
NT's may think that we are lonely individuals but the truth is that we are simply alone without feeling lonely and thus sad. That's a problem that I have experienced a lot. People think I'm lonely and isolated while I perceive things in a totally different way. I need and want to live my life on my own for most of the time. There is just no other way for me so STOP TRYING TO CHANGE ME! :evil:



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09 Mar 2012, 12:43 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I'm not luckier than NTs. I think that having AS is unlucky, and causes grief throughout my entire life. Giving off vibes (due to difficulties giving off correct body language or having a ''kink'' in my body language) makes me unlucky for a start, because it jeopardises me from ever being able to get anywhere, like get a job (due to poor expression at interviews no matter how hard I try to be proffessional), and making friends (I can't tell you what is odd about the way I interact but there is something there, again a slight ''kink'' in my social personality, otherwise I would have more friends), and so it seems to affect me in such a tiny way no matter what I do to improve, and I can never quite put my finger on what needs to be changed about me, since the oddities are so minor yet they affect me in a harsh way.

I consider that all just to be bad luck. I am very unlucky, just by having AS itself, especially it being as mild as it is, because I am aware of what I'm missing or struggling with yet I have difficulties improving because I know I will always screw it up.

Plus I'm not very clever either. I have just under average IQ, and I find logic very hard (if logic is the right word, I don't know).


I agree with you, I think that if I had Asperger's Syndrome and was actually smarter life would be easier. I was blessed with Asperger's Syndrome without the smarts a lot of people with Asperger's Syndrome seem to have. When it comes to logic, left brain vs right brain I'm right in the middle, it's kind of weird. Like you my IQ is slightly below average, the last IQ test I did I got a 94 thanks to all of the wonderful math they put on it...I was always well below grade level when it came to math. I'm a little bit above average in English and language arts. One thing that I'm lucky that I have is I don't really have too many sensory issues. Socially, I'm not too bad, I'm not that bad at picking up social cues, my problems lie with that I'm way too shy and I need my alone time. Also, I have a hard time showing my emotions. My fine motor skills suck as well.



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09 Mar 2012, 1:20 pm

lostgirl1986 wrote:
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I'm not luckier than NTs. I think that having AS is unlucky, and causes grief throughout my entire life. Giving off vibes (due to difficulties giving off correct body language or having a ''kink'' in my body language) makes me unlucky for a start, because it jeopardises me from ever being able to get anywhere, like get a job (due to poor expression at interviews no matter how hard I try to be proffessional), and making friends (I can't tell you what is odd about the way I interact but there is something there, again a slight ''kink'' in my social personality, otherwise I would have more friends), and so it seems to affect me in such a tiny way no matter what I do to improve, and I can never quite put my finger on what needs to be changed about me, since the oddities are so minor yet they affect me in a harsh way.

I consider that all just to be bad luck. I am very unlucky, just by having AS itself, especially it being as mild as it is, because I am aware of what I'm missing or struggling with yet I have difficulties improving because I know I will always screw it up.

Plus I'm not very clever either. I have just under average IQ, and I find logic very hard (if logic is the right word, I don't know).


I agree with you, I think that if I had Asperger's Syndrome and was actually smarter life would be easier. I was blessed with Asperger's Syndrome without the smarts a lot of people with Asperger's Syndrome seem to have. When it comes to logic, left brain vs right brain I'm right in the middle, it's kind of weird. Like you my IQ is slightly below average, the last IQ test I did I got a 94 thanks to all of the wonderful math they put on it...I was always well below grade level when it came to math. I'm a little bit above average in English and language arts. One thing that I'm lucky that I have is I don't really have too many sensory issues. Socially, I'm not too bad, I'm not that bad at picking up social cues, my problems lie with that I'm way too shy and I need my alone time. Also, I have a hard time showing my emotions. My fine motor skills suck as well.


I'm rather similar to you here. I got low to average grades at school, I needed support all through school with my work, and I was always put in the Special Ed group at the primary schools. There was actually another Aspie in my class, but she was really, really clever. She got top grades in every subject, and didn't need any extra support at all, and all she did was study. I never got a chance to hang out with her because all she wanted to do was read in the library at lunchtimes and not interact with anyone, and I never went in the library because I've never been into reading or studying.

I only have sensory issues with my ears. With taste and temperature and touch I don't always believe it's necessarily an Aspie trait because I hear NTs complaining that they're too cold or they're too hot all the time, or they are always commenting on texture and taste of food. Once when I was eating a biscuit, and my Mum spat her's out and said, ''urgh, it has a twangy taste to it!'' and I was like, ''they taste all right to me.''

Socially I'm not too bad either. I can easily read non-verbal (and verbal) cues without any difficulty, even from a young age. But I don't think that always necessarily helps that much, because it's a matter of knowing what to say to people and having the confidence to speak up, not so much how good I can read others. I find myself more difficult to ''read'', if anything! And like you, I am very shy in social situations. I clam up and don't know what to say or how to be, and I just feel awkward all the time and worry about how other people might see me, and I'm not very good at reacting fast enough. So I tend to avoid social situations like weddings and nightlife.

The only thing is I don't suck at showing my emotions. I show my emotions all the time, which also causes problems, believe it or not.


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11 Mar 2012, 6:13 pm

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We don't give a $%^T about anything. (keeps us young)

bar animals that is.


Lol, good point, and you don't look 35 at all!


And not wanting to do anything normal people want to do helps to.(apparently)

One aspie young lady said how much "fun" she likes to have with her aspie mate, another aspie lass said that was not "on" so I proceded with the teasing by illustrating all the "fun"
activities which Nt's like to do partake in (at their expense) she called me a "charmer " :D and went on to say the things that I say is the reasons she doesn't like been in the company of autistics we never want to do anything normal people enjoy. :)



I wont be listing those things again as I can't be bothered though I think you know what it's all about it includes boozing, bronzing, and brawling preferably in Bali because it starts with a "B" and you get plenty of "B's " for your buck in that place , your right on the money. :wink:


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11 Mar 2012, 6:30 pm

Phonic wrote:
kg4fxg wrote:

8. Logical Decision Making
Your ability to make logical and rational decisions and stick to your course of action without being swayed by impulse or emotional reactions allows you to navigate successfully through difficult situations without being pulled off-course.


I'm ever skeptical of this claim, I don't see any more or less logic in autistics, but people mistake "articulate" for "logical".


I agree with the logical decision making. Wether this is always good decision making is perhaps the better objection.

I had no emotional response with making redundancies at my previous employer. There was no emotion, it was all survival of the company. I was so rational and logical about it, I could have even suggested making myself redundant. This was making friends and even my wife redundant!

I'm always good in a crisis for the same reason. Eg. When I was in the car behind an accident, check safety, secure car, check driver, call for help, instruct other cars to move out the way as they were going to cause another accident. Etc. completely logical and structured. Meanwhile my passengers were just checking out the damage and milling around.

I have loads of examples of this, usually in circumstances where fear and other emotions would have got the better of people.

Jason..



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11 Mar 2012, 6:45 pm

I can't speak for all Aspies, but as far as my own traits go - I feel lucky that I don't get lonely, or need friends, or sex, or a social life. I am completely happy to just be a lone wolf, and I'm grateful for that. Most people seem to be more "needy" and unfulfilled and never satisfied, so I think I'm lucky to just feel happy with what I've got!