Math and numbers or art and creativity?

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What's your forte?
Math and numbers. 13%  13%  [ 27 ]
Math and numbers. 20%  20%  [ 43 ]
Art and creativity. 28%  28%  [ 60 ]
Art and creativity. 39%  39%  [ 84 ]
Total votes : 214

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19 Mar 2012, 8:55 pm

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Both, goddammit. This poll is useless. The two are in no way mutually exclusive.


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19 Mar 2012, 8:59 pm

Tuttle wrote:
Point-set topology, algebraic topology, or something different?


Point-set. I am currently writing a master's thesis on inverse limits in a certain category, where the category has object class "topological spaces" and morphism class "upper hemicontinuous set-valued maps".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_limit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemicontinuity

The categorical definition of "inverse limit" looks a bit scary, but it is actually quite intuitive once you translate everything into topologese. It feels like you're following points on their infinite journey backwards through a maze of mappings.

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Specifically where I want to go is I want to get a PhD in mathematical logic


I like logic too. I like the idea that there is actually a formal account of what mathematicians are supposed to be doing, although it sometimes doesn't feel like that's what mathematicians are really doing. Sometimes I like to think about how topology would be affected if the foundations of mathematics were different. There's a completely central result in point-set topology which is actually equivalent (in ZF) to the Axiom of Choice! :-P



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19 Mar 2012, 9:10 pm

Ganondox wrote:
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Both, goddammit. This poll is useless. The two are in no way mutually exclusive.


I'm sorry... ._.



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19 Mar 2012, 9:20 pm

Both. I'm really good at math, but I'm also fairly creative. I have a lot of trouble translating most of my creativity into the real world, though, so I mostly stick with math and hard science stuff.



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19 Mar 2012, 9:42 pm

Art and creativity for me. My math skills are down the toilet.



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19 Mar 2012, 9:52 pm

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Art and creativity for me. My math skills are down the toilet.


Man, finally someone like me.



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19 Mar 2012, 9:55 pm

Koi wrote:
Pandora_Box wrote:
Art and creativity for me. My math skills are down the toilet.


Man, finally someone like me.


:)

We art people are a rare breed, lol. Kidding.



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19 Mar 2012, 10:10 pm

Declension wrote:
Tuttle wrote:
Point-set topology, algebraic topology, or something different?


Point-set. I am currently writing a master's thesis on inverse limits in a certain category, where the category has object class "topological spaces" and morphism class "upper hemicontinuous set-valued maps".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_limit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemicontinuity

The categorical definition of "inverse limit" looks a bit scary, but it is actually quite intuitive once you translate everything into topologese. It feels like you're following points on their infinite journey backwards through a maze of mappings.


I don't see the intuitive nature, but I can see how its useful and can somewhat see how it would be. That sounds interesting :).

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Specifically where I want to go is I want to get a PhD in mathematical logic


I like logic too. I like the idea that there is actually a formal account of what mathematicians are supposed to be doing, although it sometimes doesn't feel like that's what mathematicians are really doing. Sometimes I like to think about how topology would be affected if the foundations of mathematics were different. There's a completely central result in point-set topology which is actually equivalent (in ZF) to the Axiom of Choice! :-P



The relationship between logic and topology is quite interesting to me. I really enjoy the fact that first order logic is compact. As an undergrad I learned the definition of compactness in three different class-like things in three different fields (analysis, logic, and topology - though only one was in an undergrad class), and they all were the same definition just in the language of that field. I really enjoy those types of relationships between fields of mathematics.



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19 Mar 2012, 10:22 pm

I'm probably more of a "systemizer" (i.e. math and science) but I don't think that totally excludes appreciation for unstructured/emotional type of creativity. I have a lot of trouble writing stories and such though.



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19 Mar 2012, 10:43 pm

Koi wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
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Both, goddammit. This poll is useless. The two are in no way mutually exclusive.


I'm sorry... ._.


I don't mean to offend you, I'm just sick of the assumption that math and creativity are opposites when they are not. I happen to be exceptionally gifted in both regards. However, my approach to math is probably fairly creative, following algorithms that someone else created bores me.


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20 Mar 2012, 1:33 am

another "both" here.


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20 Mar 2012, 5:24 am

Ganondox wrote:
Koi wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
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Both, goddammit. This poll is useless. The two are in no way mutually exclusive.


I'm sorry... ._.


I don't mean to offend you, I'm just sick of the assumption that math and creativity are opposites when they are not. I happen to be exceptionally gifted in both regards. However, my approach to math is probably fairly creative, following algorithms that someone else created bores me.

I get offended... very, very easily... and I say sorry a lot, too...

In fact, I'm sorry about that as well! Guh... This is always my problem in social situations.



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20 Mar 2012, 6:52 am

Both
and have studied both at university
(Poll should have included "both" and "neither" - live and learn :roll: )



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20 Mar 2012, 6:55 am

I'm more gifted in math and sciences, though I ended up being an economist... I like music, but I'm not good at it. All-in-all, little art for me.


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20 Mar 2012, 9:08 am

I can't answer, as I'm both. In fact, for me, the two are entwined quite well and are not independent. Maybe it's because I'm quite a strong visual thinker and use this for arithmetic and maths as well as my art. I'm an amateur artist and my arithmetic/mathematical skills have allowed me to keep proportions/perspective correct, without having to think about it. Even colour has a scientific slant for me, as well as being emotion inducing.


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04 Apr 2012, 1:46 pm

I'd probably say neither. Math never interested me, nor art.

Although after graduating high school I took up studying art because I had no idea what else to do, and I was afraid of going through life without a hobby. It was just a spur of the moment when I sat down one day doodling heads =x

So I kind of "forced" myself to learn and study art for years. It's mentally and emotionally exhausting =o