Another article sensationalizing autism

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Safeminds is a curebie group so how unbiased are their articles or "research" - which is often funded by fellow curebies in grants to researchers and doctors who are connected to their cause. There are tons of pollutants in the environment- why stop at mercury and proclaim IT to be the cause which these groups do. Also - I used to be on (guess I still am because I didn't unsubscribe )- a lyme disease/autism group where some claimed they could not get any funding from these types. The objective was to look at the number of kids who developed what appeared to be autistic behaviors after contracting lyme disease. Their contention is that lyme is very undiagnosed and could also have some sort of interaction with the mercury in the vacs. However that doesn't promote the exclusive mercury agenda.

Once a person has said that, you need not bother with anything else, except perhaps to worry if anyone will swallow it.

Its genetically utter nonsense and if he's implying that the 1 in 166 are burdens equivalent to a medical condition, he should up the total to include the "mild cases" "suffered" by the teachers and classmates of these children.

Spit.

Well, I've had to rethink my statements and I am only part of the way there. It isn't right to lump all behaviors under one heading like "autistic" just because they resemble someone's idea of what autistic is. Sitting and rocking one's self does not point to one syndrome or pathology any more than a fever points to the flu. Look for autism, you will see autism. Think of it as negative, a person will see it as negative, associate autism with negative outcomes later in life, and even see their worries as evidence.

How could I tell someone who has so many years in college and so many years "experience" that a particular symptom, even if autistics don't display that symptom, isn't autism? If they haven't figured it out by that time the only force on Earth that has a chance is someone higher up in their own hierarchy.

Mercury exposure causes certain problems that may cause children to exhibit behaviors that some adults identify with autism. Some of the problems that I know about, poor socialization, poor physical coordination, lack of empathy whether real or imaginary, can easily come from chronic irritation of the nervous system, or a damaged nervous system. The symptoms can be caused by simple physical and emotional pain, and social rejection. I know that I was given the pain and rejection treatment so it might be superfluous to blame mercury for my condition early on. Did mercury somehow cause neighborhood children to treat me as a pariah and inflict severe pain on me for the crime of existing? It might have caused my mother to have the bad judgement that she did, but that would have been mercury in her nervous system, I would hope. There is the fact that some children and adults picked up on certain behaviors that indicated that I was different, so they made the decision to trash my life. Part of trashing my life included efforts to "correct" my behavior by inflicting a lot more pain and injury.

If mercury is causing some kind of pathological condition those boobs don't have a chance on Earth of finding out and dealing with it. Autism isn't necessarily a disease at all. Symptoms of autism are probably not caused by the condition but by the responses of others to it, when those symptoms even exist.

So what are we talking about? Proving that autism isn't caused by vaccines does not prove that vaccines do not damage the brain. Some of the deaths caused by vaccinations occur before any such diagnosis can be made, too, and have been mistaken for shaken baby syndrome. Maybe damaging the brain that way prevents some of the indicators of autism. Saying that mercury may cause autism makes it confusing. There is a lot less doubt that it causes brain damage.

I think that organic sulfur helps keep mercury from causing damage.

Even if vaccines do cause it... which would you rather have, AS, or polio? A side order of Hepatitis B maybe? Maybe some Rubella for the ladies?

What's bloody next?? Join the Walk To Find The Cure For Autism??

Auughghghghhghhhhh.

I bloody hate the medical/pharmaceutical/military/industrial complex. They parade the "poor autistic child ravaged by this insidious disease", and then beg for money to support themselves so they can look for a "cure." Not a social, working together type cure, like these forums. NOOOOoooooo, they want a nice patentable phamaceutical pill that will cure the "poor ravaged children." Like, oh, Ritalin. We all know how sucessful that's BEEN for ADD kids.

Yuck.

Like Uncle Fester, I'll take the mercury straight up, please.

That number is always used by people claiming that autism has soared recently, however, the number is a bit skewed, and people can use statistics to do whatever they want. Previously, only low-functioning autistic children were classified as being autistic. Today, kids with Aspergers, ASD and anywhere else on the spectrum are being thrown into the same number... Although we're not comparing apples and oranges, when you count only red apples, and then suddenly start counting green apples too, you're gonna end up with more apples!

People like me with aspergers were never really figured out by the mental health public back when we were growing up. I was classified with all sorts of stuff that didn't really fit. The most common one being ADD/ ADHD, but I wasn't hyper, but also said being OCD, and schitzophrenic. Mental health doctors didn't know what to think of me. Suddenly Aspergers comes around and it all fit together. This leads to another thing. People like me that were born years ago with autism that are only recently classified. People like us skew the statistics created TODAY, not 31 years ago when I was born!

What STUPIDITY!! !! ! Equating autism, etc.... with republicans and their supposed lack of environmental concerns. Never mind the people who had their lives OBLITERATED by a GOVERNMENT project in the US! What did the head of THAT administration do? He effectively declared this piece of the US a sovriegn country(of course he remained its ruler), and NOT subject to ANY US laws, restrictions, treaties, or concerns! It EXPLICITLY stated that they were NOT to help doctors of the injured parties by giving any information about any chemicals they were exposed to etc.....

The COUNTRY? Groom lake(aka Area 51). The head of that administration that actually created, agreed, and signed that order against all treaties, etc???? BILL CLINTON!

Why didn't HE get any flack for THAT!?!?

Frankly, I HATE people that try to exploit causes like autism for their own stupid ulterior motives.

Steve

Exploitation goes with the territory I'm afraid. The people who know anything about it, are too busy actually 'doing it' to bother with the press, that's how these stereotypes become so universal and magnified.
Best wishes
http://whitterer-autism.blogspot.com

I think that rather than saying 1-in-83 parents are also affected by the autism gene, he was implying that the parents are 'affected' in the sense that they have to look after an autistic child. (Oh, the horror!) The point I was trying to make was that it's mathematically nonsense - there are so many families out there with single parents, (and even where the child is also looked after by housemates, grandparents or other relatives) that saying exactly twice as many adults are 'affected' by autism issues as the number of autistic children, is completely ridculous. It would only work if every family, autistic or not, had exactly two parents involved - which many many don't.

But either way you look at it, he's not presenting a good impression of credibility.

With 2.5 children per household, the number affected would be something like one in 80 families or one in 80 parents.

And remember, it would be ANYWHERE on the spectrum, so that means it could anywhere from blatantly obvious to near un-noticable.

Well, I am entirely unimpressed with "normal" so I would urge those who build big charities for getting money to "try to find a cure" to get a freaking life.

Quote from the 'Getting The Truth Out' website: "I didn't realize people were still thinking when they didn't talk. Do you think my daughter thinks?"

And this is from a parent, one of the people who think they're normal.

I have to tell you. By todays circumstances, I certainly could have been considered autistic. I could even have been put on ritalin. FRANKLY, I wish they were more like I was, or even as I am.

Oh well, I once was invited to a meeting to help solve the homeless problem. There were several there!

1. A jerk looking to raise money, with his getting a nice commission.
2. a couple self serving people there to claim to be helping by having us there.
3. A person INTENT on arguing, and creating problems.
4. A police officer stating the problems, and a possible solution.
5. Then there was ME! Who was I???? Someone that had a SOLUTION to #4s problem!

#3 argued with EVERYTHING, so she argued with ME!
#1 couldn't raise money for something already UP AND RUNNING, so HE wasn't interested.
#2? Well, I guess they couldn't take credit.

ALL I asked for was more info, so that police officer could EASILY find a LOCAL charity that could help even at 12Midnight.

Yet NOBODY would help me! They wanted to SPEND MONEY, so they skim some off the top.

Do we need more people like THAT? Heck no! Let there be more like me or that police officer. He was on HIS time struggling to help prevent the NEXT family needing shelter at 12mn from having to sleep on the street or at a police station.

It is ironic that the two that weren't paid to be there were the only two really trying to help.

The same is true of nearly everything else including autism!

Steve