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22 May 2012, 10:29 am

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Is there a possibility of guilt from him having to die alone?


yeah, that is what Chris71 was saying. But...don't we all "die alone"!?!? I mean, you can't enter nothingness with anyone...that would not be nothingness.


You don't die with them, but people do tend to be there as people transition from life to death - that's part of hospice care, along with just being made comfortable at the end of life.

Whether or not you're religious, people seem to care about having somewhere there at that point. When my grandmother died, one of the things that people focused on was that her last thing she did before she went to take a nap that she didn't wake up from was have a conversation with my grandfather. When my grandfather died, his three children were there, even though he was unconscious.


However, it really comes down to, the guilt is a form of grief. It will go away with time. It's probably not feeling like she could have prevented his death, but might be thinking she might have been able to make it a little more pleasant for him.



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22 May 2012, 10:37 am

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CanisMajor wrote:
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People sometimes want to think that their actions could have changed things. I think this is a normal stage of grief. A sort of denial. There wasn't anything she should have done differently. Hopefully she will realize this.


Denial? But I think her entire problem is that she is accepting the fact that he is dead. ??


It's more a denial of the circumstances than the fact that he is dead, I think. She's in denial that she was helpless to change things. As has been said, there really wasn't anything she could have done. But she can't accept that yet and feels some sort of undue burden, denying that she really had no way to save him.


Oh. Hmmm. I still am of the opinion that that line of thinking is ridiculous given the facts.


Also, denial in the sense of accepting the reality of someone's not being there anymore. There's a transitional period where it doesn't seem real that the person is gone and you try to gain control by thinking there was a way you could have impacted events.



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22 May 2012, 10:38 am

Tuttle wrote:
zombiegirl2010 wrote:
Tuttle wrote:
Is there a possibility of guilt from him having to die alone?


yeah, that is what Chris71 was saying. But...don't we all "die alone"!?!? I mean, you can't enter nothingness with anyone...that would not be nothingness.


You don't die with them, but people do tend to be there as people transition from life to death - that's part of hospice care, along with just being made comfortable at the end of life.

Whether or not you're religious, people seem to care about having somewhere there at that point. When my grandmother died, one of the things that people focused on was that her last thing she did before she went to take a nap that she didn't wake up from was have a conversation with my grandfather. When my grandfather died, his three children were there, even though he was unconscious.


However, it really comes down to, the guilt is a form of grief. It will go away with time. It's probably not feeling like she could have prevented his death, but might be thinking she might have been able to make it a little more pleasant for him.


Oh ok


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22 May 2012, 10:40 am

Ann2011 wrote:
zombiegirl2010 wrote:
CanisMajor wrote:
zombiegirl2010 wrote:
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People sometimes want to think that their actions could have changed things. I think this is a normal stage of grief. A sort of denial. There wasn't anything she should have done differently. Hopefully she will realize this.


Denial? But I think her entire problem is that she is accepting the fact that he is dead. ??


It's more a denial of the circumstances than the fact that he is dead, I think. She's in denial that she was helpless to change things. As has been said, there really wasn't anything she could have done. But she can't accept that yet and feels some sort of undue burden, denying that she really had no way to save him.


Oh. Hmmm. I still am of the opinion that that line of thinking is ridiculous given the facts.


Also, denial in the sense of accepting the reality of someone's not being there anymore. There's a transitional period where it doesn't seem real that the person is gone and you try to gain control by thinking there was a way you could have impacted events.


Oh I see. I have experienced the unreal/fictional/oddness that accompanies someone's sudden death. I have lost a few close family members. It does take a little bit not to expect them to be say...in there favorite recliner or something.


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