Attention Deficit Disorder in Adults
Well, it's a good question...what is the difference between the two? And contrary to popular opinion...ADHDers are not the social butterflies that they are thought to be....especially in childhood where over 1/2 of the hyperactive and combos would qualify for a diagnosis of ODD. A good number are totally rejected by their peers. ADHDers are also not a homogenous lot. There is a lot variance with ADHD.
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Callista,
WOW, you just described MY academic carreer! Early on, I was VERY smart. I certainly sounded smarter, had to dumb down my speech, and knew a lot of stuff concerning general science, electronics, woodworking, biology, etc.... Somewhere around my teens, people started to catch up to me in school. Of course I DO know a lot school never taught, etc... Heck, I finally DID start to learn german and in college got As and Bs in German II/III and did well at a short language immersion retreat. I never took German I, because I was self taught. I also went to denmark, and several people said I had a beautiful danish accent! I spoke danish, all self taught. WHAT A COMPLIMENT!
The armed services made a mistake, and graded my ASVAB(Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery) test in a higher grade.(Giving me a lower relative score) STILL, I got a LOT of recruitment calls. I was in the 9th grade, and they graded me as a Sophomore in college! Still, everyone in the military was calling me up, to recruit me, because I did so well. For the part dealing best with my studies, I was in the 93% for a person 5 grades ahead of me. I found someone that got a lower absolute score than I did that was graded at the proper level, and he was in the 99%, so I was obviously in the 99% or 100% for my grade level. Frankly, I wasn't feeling well, and really should have done better.
NO, it's been a while since I have studied EEGs and, even then, it was done in a somewhat perfunctory manner. Still, at least with me and apparantly a LOT of people are like this, I apparantly have NO discernable eye movement here. It is almost like my attention goes to something OTHER than my eyes, and I get a SENSE of the view. I have actually gotten to the point where I can imagine in a daydream like state, WHILE I am in this reality. The two are distinct. Still, in a REAL daydream state, I concentrate on the daydream. Eventually, the sense can seem like it is reality, and like I am really experiencing that. Reality almost tunes out. ALMOST! Since I believe my eyes are fixed, and some have told me they are, and I have seen this in others, including known autistics, I think it is fairly common. Bear in mind common could STILL be like .5%, etc... I simply mean I have seen enough that I know it isn't just me, etc...
BTW I just daydream at times. It isn't something I have NO control of. And HEY, I like it. As bad as my visualization is, it is probably better because of this.
Steve
Now that you mention it, there WAS a time where I wondered, I heard some people that described some problems I had, and the drugs seemed to help them, but I heard too many horror stories. 8-(
Still, that DOESN'T explain the skewed senses, hyperlexia, special interests, stims, etc... AS DOES! It also doesn't explain the early appearance.
Steve
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Looking up various things on medline on this. I've mentioned many times before that
maybe 50% of people who are on the autisic spectrum have ADHD also. And those
that do will be lowwer functioning (despite being intelligent). Yeah I'm one of those
people who daydream 99% of the time. I would run machine tools like a robot at work
feeding a lathe with parts while in a completely different world. The high rate of
daydreaming is not used in the offical dx of ADHD-I . I just mentioned it as an easy
thing a ADHD-I suffer could observe in their on lives. Are you daydreaming alot when you should be studying, cleaning, working, etc?
1: J Child Adolesc Psychopharmacol. 2006 Oct;16(5):599-610.
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Open-label atomoxetine for attention-deficit/ hyperactivity disorder symptoms associated with high-functioning pervasive developmental disorders.
Posey DJ, Wiegand RE, Wilkerson J, Maynard M, Stigler KA, McDougle CJ.
Department of Psychiatry and Christian Sarkine Autism Treatment Center at the Indiana University School of Medicine, Indianapolis, Indiana.
Objective: The aim of this study was to conduct an initial evaluation of the efficacy of atomoxetine for attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) symptoms in children with pervasive developmental disorders (PDDs). Method: Children with PDDs and a nonverbal IQ of >/=70 received atomoxetine (target dose 1.2-1.4 mg/kg/day) during the course of an 8-week, open-label, prospective study. Standardized assessments of efficacy and tolerability were collected at regular intervals during the trial. Results: Sixteen children and adolescents (mean age 7.7 +/- 2.2 years, age range 6-14 years) with autistic disorder (n = 7), Asperger's disorder (n = 7), or PDD not otherwise specified (n = 2) received atomoxetine (mean dose 1.2 +/- 0.3 mg/kg/day). Twelve participants (75%) were rated as "much" or "very much improved" on the Clinical Global Impressions-Improvement scale. The most significant improvement was seen in the area of ADHD symptoms as measured by the SNAP-IV and Aberrant Behavior Checklist (effect size = 1.0-1.9). Improvements of lesser magnitude (effect size = 0.4-1.1) were seen in irritability, social withdrawal, stereotypy, and repetitive speech. There were no significant changes on the Conners' Continuous Performance Test. Atomoxetine was well tolerated with the exception of 2 participants (13 %) who stopped medication due to irritability. Weight decreased by a mean of 0.8 kg during the 8-week trial. Conclusions: Placebo-controlled studies are indicated to determine atomoxetine's efficacy for ADHD symptoms in PDDs.
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: Can J Psychiatry. 2006 Aug;51(9):598-606.
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Inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity in teenagers with intellectual disabilities, with and without autism.
Bradley EA, Isaacs BJ.
University of Toronto, Ontario. [email protected]
OBJECTIVE: To explore inattentive, hyperactive, and impulsive behaviours in teenagers with intellectual disabilities (ID), with and without autism. METHOD: We identified teenagers with ID, with and without autism, in a single geographic area. Those with autism were matched for age, sex, and nonverbal IQ to those with ID only. We compared inattentive, hyperactive, and impulsive (IHI) behaviours in the 2 groups, along with adaptive functioning and medical circumstances. We further subdivided the autism group into those with IHI behaviours (autism IHI) and those without (autism non-IHI) and explored similarities and differences between autism subgroups. RESULTS: As a group, those with autism and ID had more IHI behaviours than those with ID alone. More in the autism group met criteria for attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder and hyperkinetic syndrome. Lifetime exposure to psychotropic medication was greater in the autism group, with stimulant and antipsychotic medications predominating. However, just under one-half of those in the autism group showed no IHI behaviours. Comparison of autism IHI and autism non-IHI groups showed that those with IHI behaviours were significantly more likely to have past (but not current) exposure to stimulant medication. CONCLUSIONS: One in 2 teenagers with ID and coexisting autism displayed clinically significant inattentive, hyperactive, and (or) impulsive behaviours, compared with 1 in 7 of those with ID alone. Most of the remaining teenagers with autism displayed no IHI behaviours. Our results support the need for further investigation into the prevalence and etiology of these IHI behaviours in individuals with autism.
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Child Care Health Dev. 2006 Sep;32(5):575-83.
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Impact of comorbid autism spectrum disorders on stimulant response in children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder: a retrospective and prospective effectiveness study.
Santosh PJ, Baird G, Pityaratstian N, Tavare E, Gringras P.
Department of Psychological Medicine, St Thomas' Hospital, London, UK.
BACKGROUND: In the recent past, psychiatrists and paediatricians have avoided prescribing stimulant medication, such as methylphenidate and dexamphetamine to patients with autism spectrum disorders (ASD) because of both doubts about efficacy and concern that these medications make stereotypies worse. Recently, a number of small trials have suggested that methyphenidate does have a role in the management of hyperactivity in children with autistic spectrum disorders. METHODS: Children with ASD and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), and children with ADHD without ASD received standard treatment with methyphenidate from one specialist centre. A combination of standardized and novel outcome tools was used to allow both an exploratory retrospective study of 174 children and then a prospective study of a further 52 children to be carried out. RESULTS: After treatment with stimulants, the subjects in both groups showed statistically significant improvements in target symptoms of 'hyperactivity', 'impulsivity', 'inattention', 'oppositionality', 'aggression' and 'intermittent explosive rage'. The Clinical Global Impression-Improvement and efficacy index measures also improved in each group. In both the retrospective and the prospective studies, there was no statistically significant difference in the degree of improvements between each group. Importantly, neither tics nor repetitive behaviours worsened in either group. Children in the 'ADHD-only' group who were prescribed stimulants experienced significant 'nausea', 'giddiness', 'headaches' and 'sleep difficulties', whereas sleep difficulties were the only side effect that emerged in children in the ASD with ADHD group. CONCLUSIONS: Both studies presented here support previous findings from smaller studies that show children with autism and ADHD can respond as well to stimulants as children with ADHD alone. Although randomized controlled trials remain the gold standard for efficacy studies, systems like this that allow clinicians to continue rigorous and consistent monitoring for many years have a valuable role to play. Furthermore, such monitoring systems which now exist electronically can easily accumulate large data sets and reveal details about long-term effectiveness and long-term side effects of medication that are unlikely to be discovered in short-term trials.
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: J Autism Dev Disord. 2006 Oct;36(7):849-61.
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Comorbid psychiatric disorders in children with autism: interview development and rates of disorders.
Leyfer OT, Folstein SE, Bacalman S, Davis NO, Dinh E, Morgan J, Tager-Flusberg H, Lainhart JE.
Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences, University of Louisville, Louisville, KY, USA.
The Kiddie Schedule for Affective Disorders and Schizophrenia was modified for use in children and adolescents with autism by developing additional screening questions and coding options that reflect the presentation of psychiatric disorders in autism spectrum disorders. The modified instrument, the Autism Comorbidity Interview-Present and Lifetime Version (ACI-PL), was piloted and frequently diagnosed disorders, depression, ADHD, and OCD, were tested for reliability and validity. The ACI-PL provides reliable DSM diagnoses that are valid based on clinical psychiatric diagnosis and treatment history. The sample demonstrated a high prevalence of specific phobia, obsessive compulsive disorder, and ADHD. The rates of psychiatric disorder in autism are high and are associated with functional impairment.
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(this study explain some differences in ADHD and ASD)
Am J Psychiatry. 2006 Jul;163(7):1239-44.
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The impact of ADHD and autism spectrum disorders on temperament, character, and personality development.
Anckarsater H, Stahlberg O, Larson T, Hakansson C, Jutblad SB, Niklasson L, Nyden A, Wentz E, Westergren S, Cloninger CR, Gillberg C, Rastam M.
Malmo University Hospital, Forensic Psychiatric Clinic, Sege Park 8A, S-205 02 Malmo, Sweden. [email protected]
OBJECTIVE: The authors describe personality development and disorders in relation to symptoms of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and autism spectrum disorders. METHOD: Consecutive adults referred for neuropsychiatric investigation (N=240) were assessed for current and lifetime ADHD and autism spectrum disorders and completed the Temperament and Character Inventory. In a subgroup of subjects (N=174), presence of axis II personality disorders was also assessed with the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV Personality Disorders (SCID-II). RESULTS: Patients with ADHD reported high novelty seeking and high harm avoidance. Patients with autism spectrum disorders reported low novelty seeking, low reward dependence, and high harm avoidance. Character scores (self-directedness and cooperativeness) were extremely low among subjects with neuropsychiatric disorders, indicating a high overall prevalence of personality disorders, which was confirmed with the SCID-II. Cluster B personality disorders were more common in subjects with ADHD, while cluster A and C disorders were more common in those with autism spectrum disorders. The overlap between DSM-IV personality disorder categories was high, and they seem less clinically useful in this context. CONCLUSIONS: ADHD and autism spectrum disorders are associated with specific temperament configurations and an increased risk of personality disorders and deficits in character maturation.
PMID: 16816230 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE
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(this study mentions how ADHD problems can be worst than ASD)
1: Brain Cogn. 2006 Jun;61(1):25-39. Epub 2006 May 6.
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Executive function deficits in autism spectrum disorders and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder: examining profiles across domains and ages.
Happe F, Booth R, Charlton R, Hughes C.
MRC Social, Genetic and Developmental Psychiatry Centre, Institute of Psychiatry, King's College London, UK. [email protected]
Deficits in 'executive function' (EF) are characteristic of several clinical disorders, most notably Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) and Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). In this study, age- and IQ-matched groups with ASD, ADHD, or typical development (TD) were compared on a battery of EF tasks tapping three core domains: response selection/inhibition, flexibility, and planning/working memory. Relations between EF, age and everyday difficulties (rated by parents and teachers) were also examined. Both clinical groups showed significant EF impairments compared with TD peers. The ADHD group showed greater inhibitory problems on a Go-no-Go task, while the ASD group was significantly worse on response selection/monitoring in a cognitive estimates task. Age-related improvements were clearer in ASD and TD than in ADHD. At older (but not younger) ages, the ASD group outperformed the ADHD group, performing as well as the TD group on many EF measures. EF scores were related to specific aspects of communicative and social adaptation, and negatively correlated with hyperactivity in ASD and TD. Within the present groups, the overall findings suggested less severe and persistent EF deficits in ASD (including Asperger Syndrome) than in ADHD.
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(Oh thought you might be interested in this Callista since I think you mentioned your
over your ideal weight. This study showed that ASD and ADHD kids were no more
over weight than the general population)
1: BMC Pediatr. 2005 Dec 21;5:48.
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Prevalence of overweight in children and adolescents with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and autism spectrum disorders: a chart review.
Curtin C, Bandini LG, Perrin EC, Tybor DJ, Must A.
Eunice Kennedy Shriver Center, University of Massachusetts Medical School, Waltham, MA, USA. [email protected]
BACKGROUND: The condition of obesity has become a significant public health problem in the United States. In children and adolescents, the prevalence of overweight has tripled in the last 20 years, with approximately 16.0% of children ages 6-19, and 10.3% of 2-5 year olds being considered overweight. Considerable research is underway to understand obesity in the general pediatric population, however little research is available on the prevalence of obesity in children with developmental disorders. The purpose of our study was to determine the prevalence of overweight among a clinical population of children diagnosed with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and autism spectrum disorders (ASD). METHODS: Retrospective chart review of 140 charts of children ages 3-18 years seen between 1992 and 2003 at a tertiary care clinic that specializes in the evaluation and treatment of children with developmental, behavioral, and cognitive disorders. Diagnostic, medical, and demographic information was extracted from the charts. Primary diagnoses of either ADHD or ASD were recorded, as was information on race/ethnicity, age, gender, height, and weight. Information was also collected on medications that the child was taking. Body mass index (BMI) was calculated from measures of height and weight recorded in the child's chart. The Center for Disease Control's BMI growth reference was used to determine an age- and gender-specific BMI z-score for the children. RESULTS: The prevalence of at-risk-for-overweight (BMI > 85th%ile) and overweight (BMI > 95th%ile) was 29% and 17.3% respectively in children with ADHD. Although the prevalence appeared highest in the 2-5 year old group (42.9%ile), differences among age groups were not statistically significant. Prevalence did not differ between boys and girls or across age groups (all p > 0.05). For children with ASD, the overall prevalence of at-risk-for-overweight was 35.7% and prevalence of overweight was 19%. CONCLUSION: When compared to an age-matched reference population (NHANES 1999-2002), our estimates indicate that children with ADHD and with ASD have a prevalence of overweight that is similar to children in the general population.
: Prog Neuropsychopharmacol Biol Psychiatry. 2006 Mar;30(2):312-5. Epub 2005 Nov 22.
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Low-dose venlafaxine in three adolescents and young adults with autistic disorder improves self-injurious behavior and attention deficit/hyperactivity disorders (ADHD)-like symptoms.
Carminati GG, Deriaz N, Bertschy G.
Division of adult psychiatry, Department of psychiatry, Psychiatry of Mental Development Unit, University hospitals of Geneva. [email protected]
In our clinical practice, we have had good experiences with venlafaxine in the treatment of self-injurious behavior (SIB) and attention deficit/hyperactivity disorders (ADHD)-like symptoms in patients with pervasive developmental disorders (PDD), and we report here three cases of possible therapeutic response: (A) a 17-year-old boy with autism and severe behavioral symptoms, including aggression toward self or property, SIB and hyperactivity, who appeared to respond to low-dose venlafaxine (18.75 mg/day); (B) a 23-year-old woman with autism hyperactivity who appeared to respond to low-dose venlafaxine (18.75 mg/day); (C) a 17-year-old girl with autism hyperactivity who appeared to respond to low-dose venlafaxine (18.75 mg/day). Follow-ups occurred respectively 18, 36 and 6 months after treatment initiation, making it possible to observe the stability of the clinical improvement in these cases.
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Subtle executive impairment in children with autism and children with ADHD.
Goldberg MC, Mostofsky SH, Cutting LE, Mahone EM, Astor BC, Denckla MB, Landa RJ.
The Kennedy Krieger Institute 707 North Broadway, Suite 232, Baltimore, Maryland, USA. [email protected]
BACKGROUND: The executive functions of inhibition, planning, flexible shifting of actions, and working memory are commonly reported to be impaired in neurodevelopmental disorders. METHOD: We compared these abilities in children (8-12 years) with high functioning autism (HFA, n = 17), attention deficit-hyperactivity disorder (ADHD, n = 21) and healthy controls (n = 32). Response inhibition was assessed using the Stroop Color and Word Test (Golden, 1978). Problem solving, set-shifting, and nonverbal memory were assessed using three tasks, respectively, from the CANTAB (Cambridge Cognition, 1996): the Stockings of Cambridge task; the Intra-Dimensional/Extra-Dimensional set-shifting task; and the Spatial Working Memory task (SWM) with tokens hidden behind 3, 4, 6, and 8 boxes. RESULTS: There were no group differences on the response inhibition, planning, or set-shifting tasks. On the SWM task, children with HFA made significantly more between-search errors compared with controls on both the most difficult problems (8-box) and on the mid-difficulty problems (6-box); however, children with ADHD made significantly more errors compared to controls on the most difficult (8-box) problems only. CONCLUSION: Our findings suggest that spatial working memory is impaired in both ADHD and HFA, and more severely in the latter. More detailed investigation is needed to examine the mechanisms that differentially impair spatial working memory, but on this set of tasks there appears to be sparing of other executive functions in these neuropsychiatric developmental disorders.
PMID: 16119469 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Am J Med Genet B Neuropsychiatr Genet. 2005 Jul 5;136(1):33-5.
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Sequence variants of the DRD4 gene in autism: further evidence that rare DRD4 7R haplotypes are ADHD specific.
Grady DL, Harxhi A, Smith M, Flodman P, Spence MA, Swanson JM, Moyzis RK.
Department of Biological Chemistry, College of Medicine, University of California at Irvine, 92697, USA. [email protected]
A high prevalence of rare dopamine receptor D4 (DRD4) alleles in children diagnosed with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) has been reported [Grady et al., 2003]. In this prior study, extensive resequencing/haplotype data of the DRD4 locus was used to suggest that population stratification was not the explanation for the high prevalence of rare alleles. In the current study, DNA resequencing/haplotyping was conducted on 136 DRD4 alleles obtained from autism probands, collected from the same geographic population as the prior ADHD probands (Orange County, CA). A number of studies have suggested that the susceptibility genes underlying these two disorders might partially overlap. Rare DRD4 variants were not uncovered in this autism sample beyond that expected by chance. These results suggest strongly that the high prevalence of rare DRD4 alleles in ADHD probands is due to ascertainment of the sample by diagnosis of ADHD. Copyright 2005 Wiley-Liss, Inc.
PMID: 15892149 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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1: J Autism Dev Disord. 2004 Jun;34(3):329-39.
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The comorbidity of Pervasive Developmental Disorder and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder: results of a retrospective chart review.
Goldstein S, Schwebach AJ.
University of Utah, USA. [email protected]
OBJECTIVE: To determine if a sample of children meeting diagnostic criteria for a Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) display symptoms and impairment related to Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) sufficient to warrant a comorbid diagnosis of ADHD. Further, do children with PDD displaying such symptoms demonstrate more impairment in daily life activities than those children only having PDD? METHOD: A retrospective chart review was conducted on children (N = 57) diagnosed with the PDD's of Autism or PDD-Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS), or ADHD. Comparative analysis of questionnaire and neuropsychological test data was completed to determine the severity of ADHD-like symptoms presenting among children with PDD. RESULTS: From the pool of subjects having PDD with sufficient data (N = 27), 7 or 26% met DSM-IV criteria for the combined type of ADHD. Nine or 33% met diagnostic criteria for the Inattentive Type of ADHD and 11 or 41% did not demonstrate a significant number of ADHD symptoms to warrant a comorbid diagnosis of ADHD. Results indicate that a subgroup of children with PDD displaying significant ADHD-like symptoms may in fact have ADHD thus warranting a comorbid diagnosis of ADHD. Current data did not suggest children with PDD and the combined type of ADHD demonstrated significantly more impairment in daily life functioning than those children only having PDD. However, this appeared likely the result of small sample size. The data, however, does indicate such children experience more difficulties in daily situations as rated by parents and teachers. CONCLUSION: These findings reinforce clinical observations indicating that some children with PDD may also experience an independent comorbid condition of ADHD, suggesting that a comorbid diagnosis of ADHD with PDD be considered in such cases. If further findings are replicated, the current exclusionary DSM-IV-TR criteria of making such a comorbid diagnosis should be re-considered.
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I had a good think about this.
I don't think I daydream much at all, I tend to remain entirely focused on what I'm obsessed with, even while I'm doing anything else.
Meaning its been music for a while, so everywhere I go, everything I do, I have a rhythym or song idea running in my head all the time. When my obsession was a particular girl, no matter what I did, I couldn't get her out of my head 90% of the time.
The only time I daydream is when I can't sleep (every night) I dream of this certain desert world, which enables me to get to sleep as its not a particularly logical or thought-churning process, my imagination only seems to come out in this moment, or in terms of music.
Meaning I don't find it difficult to study something I'm interested in, I find it encompasses ALL of my focus, whereas when I'm trying to study something I don't find interesting, I find it nigh impossible.
Also, impulsive decisions are only made by me under extreme stress, otherwise I need a LOT of planning to go out anywhere, if I go out without planning for example its a very traumatic experience.
I tried dexamphetamines when I was younger (about a year ago was the last time) and I must say they worked differently for me to those around me, I definately was incredibly racey, but it wasn't a body high like those around me, for me it was my thoughts became twice the speed, and it felt like I couldn't keep up with my own logic, if that makes sense?
I think these point away from ADHD.
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Hi. I'm new here, and apologize for barging in on the discussion. I've always been interested in ADHD because it sounds, when described, so much like ASD. I often wonder if it's part of the Spectrum.
I went to a very good NeuroPsych for testing. My son and I both have ASD. He told me that ADHD behaviors/inattention is part and parcel of ASD and he does not dx. seperately. Sometimes ADHD meds work, sometimes not. They didn't work for me, and my son, who is PDD-NOS, got mean and aggressive on stims!! !
I have always daydreamed a lot. I often do it on purpose, when I'm bored. I'll make up stories in my head and block out everything else. I'm an e-published write (granted, I can't quit my day job...lol), but I love to write and make things up, especially when the world is either boring or scary. Teachers used to call my mom suggesting I had deep psycological issues because of it.
I'm diagnosed with ADHD on the side of all my other disorders (Tourette's Syndrome and AS). It's not uncommon for AD(H)D to entwine in to another disorder.
Ask yourself this:
Do I all of a sudden forget what I was doing to look or do something else that caught my eye/attention "all the time"?
If so, you probably have AD(H)D. It's bassically like getting bored for a split second only having to instantly become interested in something else. I hate it when I'm talking to someone and a marble rolls by >.>
Nope, never happens to me.. (except when I used to smoke too much ganja)
I will never lose focus on something I'm doing, in fact, I don't even hear people talking right next to me when I'm focused, I can't do anything else till its complete.
This has led me to obsessing over relationships till I snap.
Its also led me to create some wonderful things.
Anyway, I think this pretty much cancels out ADD for me.
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I would like a list of any resources any of you know, which have to deal with ADHD in general, and especially in adults. I am non-hyperactive (except for my mental processes, which are usually fast).
For any of you who are interested, the following quote box contains the reasons I think I might have ADD.
I'm also very easily distracted, mostly by my own thoughts, but also by any environmental stimuli, like an air conditioner or a coughing classmate. If I'm distracted by my own thoughts, it's generally "daydreaming"--going from concept to concept, making connections from one to another. Within seconds, I can be totally off topic. If it's something around me, I'm usually annoyed because I'm trying to pay attention but can't.
I have to multitask to get anything done. Right now I'm listening to music as well as typing here. I'd lose track or feel bored if I didn't do more than one thing at a time. I'm usually keeping more than one train of thought in mind, too.
I have a very, very low tolerance for boredom. I can't tolerate my job, cleaning a church, if I'm not listening to books on tape at the same time. Enough boredom, and I'll have a very Aspie-style meltdown. Thankfully I don't have tantrums anymore; but the usual "cry, run off and find a corner to curl up in and hide" thing happens often enough.
I also crave intense stimulation. In my case, this isn't thrill-seeking--it's intellectual stimulation. I always have to be thinking about something interesting. TV is too slow for me; there isn't enough to think about. Sitcoms are horribly boring to me; so are most movies. The TV news, informational programs, action/adventure, and some cartoons are OK--but only if I have something else to do at the same time, usually crochet or chores. When I read, the book has to keep my attention constantly, or else I find myself three pages further than I was the last time I paid attention to the book--but, thankfully, books are more information packed than TV, and can keep my interest much more easily.
I have trouble with planning. A complex task overwhelms me unless I have a concrete set of steps to follow.
I'm a perfectionist because I don't know how to balance between speed and accuracy when I do something--so I do it as accurately as is possible, and sacrifice speed. Just yesterday I spent five and a half hours scrubbing a room at a cat shelter--it was spotless when I was done; but I spent three hours longer than anyone else would have spent.
Bills are often unpaid, despite my having the money in the savings account.
I constantly miss appointments, work, and meetings with friends because I've lost track of time.
I know how to plan my decisions, but I am impulsive: I often don't plan decisions unless I slow down and determine to plan them. Usually, impulsive decisions are something like not going to work that day because I have a headache.
My room is either perfectly organized or a cluttered mess. I can't work if my room is messy; so I've learned how to clean it by following a set series of steps--one piece of furniture at a time, then the floor, then trash, then laundry, then dishes. There are sub-steps to that, but they're boring so I won't list them.
At school, I was a good student. Having a high IQ allowed me to pass classes without studying or even paying much attention. My love of reading allowed me to gain almost everything I needed to know from the textbooks, which I generally read within the first month or so of school.
Caffeine, a stimulant (just like Ritalin is), allows me to become more productive and to concentrate better.
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Caffeine does work for a few persons with ADHD (not a cure) and works for them better than Ritalin (also not a cure).
http://www.ericdigests.org/2003-5/auditory.htm
http://www.associatedconditionsofcerebr ... /adhd.html
http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/adhd/adhd.htm
That was stressful just trying to read. I don't know if I have ADHD but I am the complete opposite of what is described there. Always punctual, easily stressed out by too much going on in my environment, hyper-focused when working on projects, rarely bored. etc. I'm assuming I don't have ADHD, never diagnosed with it anyway, but not sure what it is entirely. An inability to focus or concentrate on one thing, I'm assuming. Sorry I have no resources but find the topic interesting.
I was diagnosed with it at the age of three because I couldn't sit still and would go from one place to the other without staying interested for long. I just wandered around, always moving and became easily bored. No one could keep up with me. My mom thought something was up, even though three year olds tend to be active. She took me to my pediatrician who told her I was indeed too active and she wasn't just out of shape.
To-do list?
Don't trigger some other routine? (Impossible on the computer. "Oh, I'm sitting down to the computer... therefore, I should check the forums." And then I don't research agricultural yields in the middle ages.)
Talk to yourself? "This is what I'm doing, so I should continue with steps A, B and C. Okay, now I'm on step C, what next? Well, since I'm here and I want to be there, I should..."
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