Aspies and Gender

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I'm actually shocked at how little self assessing is possible related to this on the internet. Here's a link to a few gender related self assessments, including the popular COGIATI, on which this SAGE test is heavily based. Be warned, though, that the COGIATI is aimed more at individuals who already self identify as male to female transgendered to some degree. It is more refined, but has less breadth. It doesn't try to assess as much about you, so it doesn't stretch and give weird results.

http://www.genderdynamix.co.za/componen ... temid,206/

However, I have to say that the more I read and the more gender identity assessments and discussions I see, the more I realize that aspergers is a major confounding factor in both personal and cultural gender identity. There is a level of aspergers compulsion that takes over certain areas and behaviors typically related to gender based compulsion in individuals of both sexes. There are also some areas in which aspergers related difficulties don't allow the luxury of gender related choices that are present to NTs.

I've seen this test mocked on some trans* sites. It's apparently the invention of a single person and not scientifically validated in any way. It's just someone's opinion of how gender relates to various things like cross-dressing and "autogynephillia" and such. So, I wouldn't take it too seriously.

Yeah, there are serious issues with both the SAGE and the COGIATI. There isn't a publicly available gender identity assessment of any serious validity or modernity, though. It's a shame, as it seems like an important thing for the public to have and something I'm seriously interested in.

I am physically female but I feel more androgynous than anything else. I mean honestly I haven't even bothered shaving any of my bodily hair for quite some time....I prefer having it honestly so yeah. I also tend to dress a bit more masculine than feminine and I feel awkward when people try to give me specific female advice because I feel more somewhere in between male and female rather than specifically one or the other.

Anyways I suppose I'll take a look at the quiz thing.

Damn I guess my computer doesn't like it...oh well.

Just to see if this test tells *everyone* they're androgynous, I had my (very very patient) husband take this. He is a former military man, war veteran, former police officer.... high school football, no gender issues kinda guy. He has had training in the military and the police work on how to professionally interact with women. What I'm saying is, he's manly, but isn't a total ignorant cave-man-misogynist or anything. I feel it pegged him fairly accurately. He has no problems with the results, but did get a chuckle out of some of the questions.

I basically had him take the test, to see if we could agree it accurately describes him, so that it might have a bit more credibility for what it says about me.... as pointed out already by several people, this test does have some serious shortcommings... but overall, he doesn't dispute his results, except that he does not have 'doubts about his gender identity'.... what is up with that? are they saying that just because a person took the test in the first place? it contradicts itself two lines later, when it says "No conflicts, you appear to fully accept your physical sex and gender identity." (um, yeah, that's more like it)




S.A.G.E. Test Results

Your Raw Score is: -565, which indicates that overall you are Masculine

Your appearance is Quite Masculine

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.

You appear to socialize in a masculine manner.

You believe you have normal doubts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Male.

ANALYSIS:
No conflicts, you appear to fully accept your physical sex and gender identity.
NOTES:
[none]

I think it means that it's normal question gender to some degree at some point in ones life. It would be moderately abnormal to not have any thoughts about ones gender.

Also, note the crucial "you believe" at the beginning of the sentence referring to normal doubts.

Your Raw Score is: 295, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous

Your appearance is Androgynous

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.

You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.

You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Crossdresser
NOTES:

You are in a statistical minority as a anallophilic crossdresser. Most crossdressers are heterosexual. Your motivation for crossdressing may be driven by the undirected nature of your sexuality, as a way to more fully explore the Male gender role.


My analysis:
All androgynous, yeah, accurate. My conflicts about gender identity is approximately that gender doesn't exist in my world view as more than something others care about that I don't understand - closest word I can find is agender, but its not quite right even. I have no clue why it says I'm a crossdresser. About the anallophilic thing, its wrong, but it was the closest option so I eventually forced myself to answer it. I'm actually demisexual.

S.A.G.E. Test Results

Your Raw Score is: -635, which indicates that overall you are Masculine

Your appearance is Masculine

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Male person.

You appear to socialize in a masculine manner.

You believe you have major conflicts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Transsexual, either post-operative or in transition
NOTES:

Your answers indicate you have altered your physical appearance to look like the opposite sex.
Your Answers indicate your psychological state has likely prevailed since you were quite young.

S.A.G.E. Test Results

Your Raw Score is: -485, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous

Your appearance is Androgynous

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.

You appear to socialize in a masculine manner.

You believe you have normal doubts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Transsexual in doubt about your ability to successfully transition.
NOTES:

Your Answers indicate your psychological state has likely prevailed since you were quite young.



I enjoy wearing makeup from time to time and feminine clothes but I feel like I'm crossdressing when I do that, even though I am female. It's like I forget my gender sometimes. Could that be part of androgyny or am I just a bit strange?

Whatever you decide it means to you, "strange" isn't a real psychological option.

S.A.G.E. Test Results

Your Raw Score is: -615, which indicates that overall you are Masculine

Your appearance is Quite Masculine

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.

You appear to socialize in a masculine manner.

You believe you have normal doubts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Male.

ANALYSIS:
Normal doubts/curiosities about life as the opposite sex, but you generally accept your physical sex and gender identity.
NOTES:

[none]

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My opinion:

My real problem is that I have a kind of immature personality. That brings about uncertainties with regards to how I feel as a 'man'. This test seems unable to indicate that.

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