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10 Jul 2012, 10:31 am

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Do you guys tend to get paranoid about whether or not you've upset someone, or suspicious why people change their attitudes towards you? I'm hoping this is part of being an Aspie. . .(or maybe everyone has this problem occasionally--I probably tend to worry about it more than most though since I've had such a bad track record with coworkers)

Hmm, so today I'm feeling exceptionally paranoid about my co-workers. I like and trust almost all six of them. There is only one that hates me and I do not trust at all (because she is extremely two-faced, and then accused me of backstabbing her--which I think i may have done, but it wasn't out of malice, I was trying to help people get along--little did I know, then, that I am definitely not the person to do so). Well this morning when I came in, she was talking to another coworker, so i didn't do my normal thing which is to say "good morning" out loud to anybody in the area. The lady that dislikes me yelled "Good Morning, Nichole!" as I walked by. This makes me very suspicous since she usually doesn't acknowledge me. Also the coworker she was talking to, whom i like very much, has been very irritable lately. The problem is that, unfortunately, I can't tell if it is just me or if it is work in general--work is not going well for all of us since we are losing funding and people.
I also think that while I don't know why people are upset with me, I am at least fairly good at picking up *when* people are upset (in general or with me).
So yeah, now I'm all paranoid that they were talking about me, or at the very least, maybe I have been getting on people's nerves since they are all stressed out. . .
What about you guys?


Oh, yes, I feel like that all the time, even though there are lots of people who like me and enjoy my company and most likely aren't saying negative things about me behind my back. I don't know where in the world it comes from - maybe from my anxiety, and maybe from how I know my stepmother talks about me behind my back to my dad. Once she even did this when I was only one room away from the two of them and could hear everything being said about me if I listened carefully enough. An accident? I think NOT. :x


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10 Jul 2012, 10:33 am

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I don't know where in the world it comes from - maybe from my anxiety, and maybe from how I know my stepmother talks about me behind my back to my dad. Once she even did this when I was only one room away from the two of them and could hear everything being said about me if I listened carefully enough. An accident? I think NOT. :x


wow, I don't like your stepmother at all. . .I'm sorry you have to deal with her.


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10 Jul 2012, 10:50 am

"It's not paranoia if they really are after you." -heard that somewhere.

How many times does something have to go wrong before ppl will quit calling an issue Paranoia? (this is not sarcasm)
One time?
Fifty times?
A thousand times?

If something goes wrong 999 times is it still paranoid?
How many times have social situations gone south on you?

random Joe. . .
Say 20 years, 52 weeks each, a thousand weeks.
How many times in a week? Once?
For me it's close to 40 times a week in someway something goes weird.

So is it still paranoia if it's happened 40,000 times?

Mathematically: No
Emotionally: Yes

You're just paranoid that it's paranoia. =D


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10 Jul 2012, 10:50 am

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LtlPinkCoupe wrote:
I don't know where in the world it comes from - maybe from my anxiety, and maybe from how I know my stepmother talks about me behind my back to my dad. Once she even did this when I was only one room away from the two of them and could hear everything being said about me if I listened carefully enough. An accident? I think NOT. :x


wow, I don't like your stepmother at all. . .I'm sorry you have to deal with her.


Thanks. :) Sometimes she's okay, but she just gets into these moods sometimes...she gets angry over things that are really trivial in the grand scheme of things, or over things that are being taken care of or are easily solved.


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10 Jul 2012, 11:10 am

I think everybody feels like this at times, but I suppose some are worse than others. I often worry about upsetting people. A few weeks ago I was worrying that I had upset one of the other volunteers at my voluntary job, but when I went in the next day I don't think I did because she liked me that day as much as she did when I last saw her so I doubt I did upset her, it was probably just me being too paranoid.

This is why I hate standing up for myself in awkward situations. I prefer to be passive, rather than arguing back and causing hostility, because I seem to fear rejection or hostility. The atmosphere affects me.


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10 Jul 2012, 11:26 am

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Raziel--I don't know what kind of trauma you had, but when that whole back-stabbing thing went down, I was pretty traumatized. I had no idea that, in real life, people actually conciously manipulate someone else (I thought that only happened in fiction). But after that event I was very cautious about who I would talk to in general because I *was* concerned that I couldn't tell if someone was just trying to get information out of me, or if they genuinely wanted to talk.


I had a meltdown at the airport, the police arrived and instituationaliced me against my will in a mental institution for 2 weeks. Later on I found out that I could have left after 3 days, but I didn't know that and the same with the medication.
The problem was that I had claustrophobia and was scared all the time and they didn't realize it what was going on. :cry:
Afterwards I was nearly paranoid when I had to talk to a psychiatrist and I'm still scared of them. :?
But at least it is getting better now. :D

Neurotypical people can be hard to understand for autistic and vice versa.


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10 Jul 2012, 11:34 am

Yes, due to actual experiences with people. Also, sometimes people are not straightforward with me noticing my issues and treat me like a kid.

I get very anxious about things in general, and reminiscing about unsure times, I've usually been correct.

So I wouldn't call it excessive paranoia, but all AS people who want to get along probably have it.


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10 Jul 2012, 12:16 pm

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OliveOilMom and Blownmind--you guys are right. I know people are stressed and it might be just that, and also that maybe they were talking about me. I actually don't care what people think about me, but I do care if I hurt people that I like and trust. Since I don't know for sure if people are just stressed in general or if I have ticked them off (perhaps on top of being stressed in general) I think I'll lay low for awhile. . .


You can always go up to her and say sincerely "If I've done anything to upset you, I didn't mean to and I'd like to apologize." If she seems confused you could tell her "Sometimes I have trouble picking up on stuff or I'll say something the wrong way without meaning to. I just wanted to ask in case I accidentally did". Even if you did tick her off, that should be disarming enough to make her see how she was being to you, and soften up and try and work together better.


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10 Jul 2012, 12:30 pm

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drgoodietwoshoes wrote:
OliveOilMom and Blownmind--you guys are right. I know people are stressed and it might be just that, and also that maybe they were talking about me. I actually don't care what people think about me, but I do care if I hurt people that I like and trust. Since I don't know for sure if people are just stressed in general or if I have ticked them off (perhaps on top of being stressed in general) I think I'll lay low for awhile. . .


You can always go up to her and say sincerely "If I've done anything to upset you, I didn't mean to and I'd like to apologize." If she seems confused you could tell her "Sometimes I have trouble picking up on stuff or I'll say something the wrong way without meaning to. I just wanted to ask in case I accidentally did". Even if you did tick her off, that should be disarming enough to make her see how she was being to you, and soften up and try and work together better.


Great idea, OliveOilMom! :thumleft:


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10 Jul 2012, 12:33 pm

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IfYou're just paranoid that it's paranoia. =D

:lol: Yep, I think you are right!


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10 Jul 2012, 12:37 pm

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I had a meltdown at the airport, the police arrived and instituationaliced me against my will in a mental institution for 2 weeks. Later on I found out that I could have left after 3 days, but I didn't know that and the same with the medication.

Yep, that is definitely way more traumatizing than what I went through, and I'm sorry that they did that to you. Don't be afraid of all the psychiatrists though, it is just hard to find one that clicks. I prefer my therapist to my psychiatrist though. While i know my pscyhiatrist cares, he is good at giving meds while my therapist has been good at getting to the root of the problem.


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10 Jul 2012, 12:43 pm

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Yep, that is definitely way more traumatizing than what I went through, and I'm sorry that they did that to you. Don't be afraid of all the psychiatrists though, it is just hard to find one that clicks. I prefer my therapist to my psychiatrist though. While i know my pscyhiatrist cares, he is good at giving meds while my therapist has been good at getting to the root of the problem.


What did you went through? :(

My Psychiatrist I have at the moment is very nice and cares a lot.
But sadly she doesn't know much about autism. :(
(but that's hard to find in my area, where autism is a very new diagnoses, and wasn't (and still isn't) very common)


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15 Sep 2012, 12:12 am

I get paranoid sometimes. It is for the reasons mentioned - difficulty reading people. I have memories of being a kid and thinking I'd made an awesome friend, following them around, talking to them all the time, until BAM! They explode and shout, "YOU'RE SO ANNOYING!!" and my little autistic heart would break.

This led to bullying by a group of girls from age 9-12. These formative years were fraught with a bunch of catty evil children actually talking about me behind my back (accusing me of "copying them", saying I was trying to touch their butts or whatever, running away from me at recess, etc.) and it was always for some abstract reason that I didn't understand. This, of course, made me paranoid to do ANYTHING, and made me paranoid that people were always talking about me behind my back... because during this time, that's actually what they did. Talking about me behind my back and deliberately making my life a waking nightmare was like, the main source of entertainment for these she-devils.

I also trust my judgment of people less and less. I've gotten myself into some very negative relationships and situations simply because I can't tell if peoples' intentions are good or bad before I observe their patterns of behavior for a while. This has gotten me into some really bad situations... like I took on a roommate, a woman 20 years my senior who turned out to be a hopeless alcoholic, and she wound up burning down the apartment building. So, 22 people (including myself) lost their homes because of my sh***y judgment call. I really don't trust my judgment of people anymore.

... so yeah, I'm socially paranoid. Sometimes I hear people say my name in conversation (just my imagination, probably, most of the time)... sometimes I pass a group of people and they laugh, and I think they are laughing at me and my heart sinks... It can be pretty bad. I'm pretty sure it's directly a side effect of the bullying, and poor understanding of what others really mean.

But the funny thing is, I'm less paranoid now than I've ever been in my life... I think it's because I'm gradually caring less and less what people think. So it's crossed over to, "sure, everyone might be talking about me behind my back, and I might be a big joke to everyone... but I am so sick of caring, that I just don't care anymore!" ... and oddly enough, this attitude helps... in a weird sort of way. Though I do get quite lonely sometimes. If anyone has any other coping suggestions, I would be completely open to them.



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15 Sep 2012, 12:39 am

Yes, I definitely have that same 'are they talking about me/have I offended them' kind of paranoia. I also have that wonderful paranoia that accompanies my trying to work out other people's intentions. That's when my imagination goes into overdrive . . .



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15 Sep 2012, 5:19 am

I know how to not offend people so I don't always need to worry about that (although sometimes I do but only to a certain degree, like everybody does). What I get more paranoid about is how other people view me. When I hear people laughing, I always assume they're laughing at me, when people stare at me I always assume they're judging me negatively, when people say things like ''what time are you going home/having lunch?'', I assume they're asking that because they don't want me talking to them. I even think that I'm just annoying and nobody wants me around, and I take it personally because other people are wanted but I don't feel I am.

I talk to my bus-driver (because I have a crush on him), and I've been talking to him for nearly a year, and I can tell he likes having a chat with me; he's asked for my name in a friendly way, he's given me a Christmas card, I know people will just say ''oh maybe he's trying to be polite'' but it's still encouraging me to want to talk to him more, also it's natural to want to talk to your crush, surely he's mature enough to realise that. But sometimes I get paranoid that he might not want me talking to him. He's a kind-natured type of man who enjoys chatting so I don't think he minds, but I still get paranoid in case he might think, ''oh, here she comes again! Stupid weirdo!''

It's just me being paranoid - ignore me!


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15 Sep 2012, 6:21 am

Gosh, me too, all the time.