Am i the only one with NO empathy for the Cinema Massacre?

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25 Jul 2012, 8:16 am

i don't feel anything for this its so small to whats happing in the world really this does not matter at all



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25 Jul 2012, 8:20 am

I haven't seen the new Batman movie yet. I heard it was to die for.



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25 Jul 2012, 8:25 am

You know, I don't have a problem with how people feel or don't feel about things like this but I believe that people shouldn't hurt others. To me this includes making fun or making light of the difficulties they face.



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25 Jul 2012, 8:25 am

Am i the only one with NO empathy for the Cinema Massacre?

naaa..... my lack of empathy is bigger than your lack of empathy!

oh yeah, well .....



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25 Jul 2012, 10:22 am

my main sympathy is with the survivors, who are in a world of hurt right now. the dead [in my spiritual opinion] are presently being taken care of in a higher [supernatural] realm.



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25 Jul 2012, 10:44 am

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If you dont feel bad for a the man that lost his six year old daughter and possibly his wife too then there is something (more than aspergers) wrong with you.


What this guy says, and I also hate children:
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I don't feel anything for that. Why would I? I don't know them. I'd feel bad if it happened to someone I cared about.



minervx wrote:
I haven't seen the new Batman movie yet. I heard it was to die for.


:lol:



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25 Jul 2012, 10:59 am

I mean this literally, not in a rhetorical sense and I'm not trying to be mean.

If you fell down the stairs and broke your arm and I laughed at you and made jokes about it would you be ok with that?



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25 Jul 2012, 11:00 am

Empathy and sympathy are two different terms. Empathy means being able to "put oneself in another's shoes," (being able to precisely understand what the person is feeling) while sympathy is simply feeling sorry for the person without actually having any knowledge as to what the person is feeling. One can sympathize with the victims and survivors but not always necessarily empathize since the person may not be able to comprehend a certain emotion. For me, it's love. I can see that someone loves someone, but I do not possess an understanding as to what that really entails; I just associate the physical cues (hugs, kisses, words), but not the actual emotion.
An emotion (or lack thereof) is one thing, but posting images and comments meant to be offensive is an entirely different issue altogether.



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25 Jul 2012, 11:04 am

Yeah I don't care either, but that's because we don't know these people, it's perfectly normal.
Still didn't need to post it about on these forums though.



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25 Jul 2012, 11:34 am

While I think what happened was terrible and would have been better if it never occured, I don't really care either. I have a hard time caring if it doesn't directly effect me in a negative way. Of course I'd prefer it if it never happened at all but I'm definitely not losing any sleep over it. It is what it is.

I do get emotional when I read or hear about animal abuse, though. One thing I cannot take is the thought of people abusing/hurting animals that are completely innocent and helpless.



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25 Jul 2012, 11:42 am

I used to be disturbed by things like this, but by now I just worry about what sort of political agenda it's going to be used to push, what stereotypes it might reinforce, who's going to be scapegoated (other than the perp) etc. I'm sure I would feel bad for the people involved if I were to go read in some detail about them, but I'd rather not. It doesn't help anyone.

However, you seem proud of the fact that you're able not to care or something. Perhaps you overestimate the degree to which NTs feel genuine emotions over this sort of thing? I don't really think most of them do - they just express fake emotions because it's socially expected.



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25 Jul 2012, 11:49 am

Nonperson wrote:
However, you seem proud of the fact that you're able not to care or something.


This is what rubs me the wrong way.



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25 Jul 2012, 11:58 am

I feel genuinely bad for the families who lost loved ones that night, and to a lesser degree I feel bad for the parents of John Holmes as they will live the rest of their lives with the knowledge that they raised a screw up of a son who is probably going to end up in the injection/gas chamber or electric chair.

On a much less serious note, its rather a shame that this cinematic release is going to be tainted by the actions of one lunatic.

What gets me more though, than the immediate tragedy is the blatant double standards. A quarter of million Iraqis died in the NATO onslaught in that region. Countless more are being killed and mutilated in the crossfire between the Afghani Taliban and NATO. However we seem to tolerate this because its in the 'grander scheme' of the establishment. The Aurora massacre wasn't 'planned' so we lament it. How dare someone spill the blood of privileged westerners on the soil of 'the land of the brave'.



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25 Jul 2012, 12:00 pm

There are several ways to look at it. At one level, you have people who will get overly emotional about things like this and will allow it to sway their opinions without thinking logically about the situation. Then there is also news overload, where you grow gradually indifferent to things over time because it just melts into the aether of tragedy that is our society and the 24 hour news cycle. I am sort of half way between the two. I don't like that something like this happened and I do sympathize with those it happened to, but it almost doesn't seem real to me. It's just becomes another tragedy that will be politically exploited as an excuse to try and take away guns from ordinary people and/or to scapegoat some group that normal people can't relate to. I dunno. When I was younger, things like this affected me more than they do today. I don't think it has anything to do with AS, but rather it's part of the cynicism that comes from the constant tragedy overload that comes from the huge amount of data available in the internet age.


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25 Jul 2012, 12:07 pm

What it boils down to is America needs to reverse the constitutional right on firearms coupled by a initiative to take firearms out of public circulation once and for all. Out of the hands of criminal gangs.

Sorta similar to the way that the British government were able to get guns off the IRA in this country.

You seldomly see gun related murders in Europe, precisely because its so difficult to get hold of guns in this country.



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25 Jul 2012, 12:14 pm

thomas81 wrote:
What it boils down to is America needs to reverse the constitutional right on firearms coupled by a initiative to take firearms out of public circulation once and for all. Out of the hands of criminal gangs.

Sorta similar to the way that the British government were able to get guns off the IRA in this country.

You seldomly see gun related murders in Europe, precisely because its so difficult to get hold of guns in this country.


Ummm... no. Sorry, but I do not want the government to b the only ones with guns. Plus, taking the guns out of the hands of the citizens is NOT the same thing as taking them out of the hands of the criminals. Criminals are not going to surrender their weapons just because the government says so. Plus, it will make many otherwise law-abiding people criminals. Most Americans with guns will not surrender them to the government, and more than a few would likely join together to resist the government with force if they tried to take them. If the government tries to take them, I would fully expect a revolt to occur and blood to run in the streets.

You also have to remember just how easy it is to make a gun. Someone with a modest set of machine tools can turn out Kalashnikovs fairly easily. Heck, they do it all day long in the Pashtun region of Pakistan, many times without electricity. Take away the legal ones, and there are plenty of unscrupulous gunsmiths that are now out of work who will turn to making and selling them for whoever will pay for them.


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