Special Ed?
You were lucky. I took the short bus to 4 different schools and not once did they ever pick me up in front of my house even though everyone else got picked up in front of their houses.
I'm in my 30s and back then I got put in what was pretty much the class for kids that were stupid and/or bad. There were people with varying levels of intelligence and all different kinds of problems in there.
You were lucky. I took the short bus to 4 different schools and not once did they ever pick me up in front of my house even though everyone else got picked up in front of their houses.
I don't get it. If they were picked up, why weren't you?
I went to mainstream school all the way through, and I needed extra support. I was put in a class just like everybody else, but there was a ''special ed'' table, where a small group of kids that needed some extra support on their work were put on most of the time. The other kids on the special ed table had learning difficulties, or things like Dyspraxia, Dyslexia and ADHD or ADD, but I didn't feel cleverer than any of them. I didn't feel dumber but I didn't feel cleverer. I felt on their ''level'', so that then proves that I'm not a clever Aspie.
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I don't get it. If they were picked up, why weren't you?
I'm not sure. At least one year they gave some bs excuse about too many one way streets in my area but that didn't stop them from picking up the girl on the dead end street in front of her house. They didn't make her wait on the corner.
The first year they sent me to a special class it was just ridiculous. I had to be waiting on a corner two blocks from my house at 6 in the morning. In the winter it was dark and cold out. Then it would take 2 hours to get to the school because I was the first picked up and then the last dropped off on the way home.
It seemed very unfair that everyone was in their warm houses and didn't even come out until the bus was there and honked the horn.
The only good thing about being sent to a school so far away was double the chance of a snow day. If there was a snow day at the school the school was closed. If there was a snow day in my city I didn't have to go because the school buses in my city would be off the road.
My son is 7 yrs old, and started out in special ed classes when he was 3 yrs old with the public school system. At first he was grouped with children with different disablities, but the older he gets, they are grouping him in a small class with 6 or 7 students that have Asperger's or HFA. He is mainstreamed for some of the classes as he is able. He just has social difficulties and a few behavioral issues, but academically, I believe he is in line with other kids his age. It was scary at first, because I did not want him to be grouped with children that were severely autistic, not that I have a prejudice against them, it is just that my son tends to mimic behaviors, and I did not want him to pick up behaviors that he didn't have. But at the same time, I knew he would be overwhelmed in a class of 20 plus kids, so this strategy seems to be the best fit. So far, we have had a good situation, but if I ever feel that he is not in a good situation, I will be more than happy to homeschool him. I guess the school systems now are finally learning how to handle these issues.
As far as sports and physical education goes, my son was a very late walker, and he has motor planning difficulties. He can get around a classroom just fine, and he can run pretty good, but when it comes to sports and games, he just really can't or won't keep up the pace with the other kids. I can see how they would place him with other children with other disabilites. I am not sure that all Aspies have motor planning difficulties, but my son does, and it can be a real challenge.
I have always been in mainstream classes. Particularly when I was first diagnosed aged 7, I imagine my parents wanted to send me to a special school as I was struggling with school. A year later I was still having major issues with socialisation and anxiety, but I was bossing the lessons so moving me would have made little sense. All my primary teachers were aware of my condition and made various efforts to help me.
My secondary school made a lot of effort to accommodate me when I started, I missed lessons to have group counselling and I had a support group before school. My support was given along with two low/medium functioning auties and was tailored for them, so over time (once I had settled in) I found what they were offering less useful. I think there were letters next to my name in the register letting my teachers know that I had autism, but this barely resulted in any support.
In retrospect I was lucky to stay in mainstream education. Having done some volunteering at local special schools, I would have struggled to progress as well there as their curriculum seems to make sure nobody gets left behind rather than everybody meets their potential. The NTs and higher functioning Aspies or kids with ADHD and so forth don't benefit from being in the same class as kids with Downs.
Two extreme examples- one of my friends who is oblivious to his surroundings a lot of the time but goes to a mainstream school has more qualifications than an NT who spent 8 years in mainstream school and only goes to a special school because he can barely walk.
I was mainstreamed for most of my school years, though early on I went to extra sessions to "catch up" on reading, etc. For the most part, I was just another kid, though my handwriting was quite bad (and still is to some extent), I hated fitness/PE, and I usually (though not always) played on my own during breaks. My brothers and I were also homeschooled for a while when we first came to the US, but I was homeschooled for a bit longer than they were and given a more gradual transition to a US middle school. Aside from starting middle school, I did not receive any support through high school. Even then, I still ate lunch on my own, but things got a little better socially by the senior year, when I started taking more classes with the other "smart kids".
I sometimes wonder how different things would be if I went to a "special" school - I probably wouldn't have been bullied, but then I would have been able to take all those honors/AP courses and gain experience in real social situations.
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As far as sports and physical education goes, my son was a very late walker, and he has motor planning difficulties. He can get around a classroom just fine, and he can run pretty good, but when it comes to sports and games, he just really can't or won't keep up the pace with the other kids. I can see how they would place him with other children with other disabilites. I am not sure that all Aspies have motor planning difficulties, but my son does, and it can be a real challenge.
I see. Just curious when u say your son has social issues what kind of social issues do u mean?
Well, he just has very little interest in interacting with his peers. He would rather spend all of his time talking to the teachers and aides about his special interest (car makes and models) He has great difficulty in having an age appropriate conversation with kids his own age. He also makes remarks out of context and repeats non-sensical words and phrases. At times he will flap his hands or make circular gestures with his hands as if he is drawing in the air. He has difficulty reading social cues from his peers.
The ones I know fall into two categories. Most, like myself, were mainstreamed, but received special ed support when they needed it. The other group had to go through mainstream education without any supports or diagnoses as they were not diagnosed yet.
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Given a “tentative” diagnosis as a child as I needed services at school for what was later correctly discovered to be a major anxiety disorder.
This misdiagnosis caused me significant stress, which lessened upon finding out the truth about myself from my current and past long-term therapists - that I am an anxious and highly sensitive person but do not have an autism spectrum disorder.
My diagnoses - social anxiety disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorder.
I’m no longer involved with the ASD world.
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Sorry if i am confusing anyone.
I mainstreamed special ed from second grade and up. When I did sports, I was in a normal league, no special league.
I was thrown in a classroom with kids of different disabilities who ranged from low to high functioning when I was six and seven. That didn't help me because I learned the wrong behavior in school and it held me back in education so I had to catch up in it when I was eight in special ed. When I was 3-5, I went to a special school for kids with developmental delays and I was in a classroom with kids who were high functioning. Most of them seemed normal and some of them were obviously different.
They no longer throw kids with disabilities in one class because we have inclusion now. Kids with disabilities now have a right to be in a classroom with normal kids and mainstream special ed. Some are still against it because sometimes they tend to disrupt class and it takes the teacher's attention away from her teaching and it effects the other kids. It's a controversial topic and issue.
My eldest (who is awaiting assessment for AS) used to be in a school which had a high proportion of children with SENs. She suffered a lot of physical bullying from both boys and girls. I was constantly up at the school or writing letters about it. My issue is that some children with SENs definitely shouldn't be in mainstream school. I mean the ones who are very disruptive and physically attack other children. It might be considered best for them but it's certainly not best for the majority. My daughter is highly intelligent, is way above national averages in most if not all subjects, and was also held back in class in the school she went to after the aforementioned one. The teachers attitude was that "it's good for all the children because the ones with learning difficulties can benefit from the help from the more able students". Really, so my child should suffer and not realise her potential because they think it's more important to help the other children. I should have charged them an hourly fee for the service my child provided the school. I think it's a big problem, certainly here in the UK, when to save money on having special schools for the children that need it, they lump everyone together to the detriment of at least the more able children, if not to the detriment of all. And children with AS who don't have any learning difficulties, other than the anxieties caused by their condition need a different kind of help. Their education is affected by the problems with socialising and being accepted into peer groups, which can totally destroy their wellbeing and prevent them from enjoying any aspect of their education.
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@The_Walrus
So it seems the same problem happens at the special schools as does in the mainstream schools (see my above post). Bl**dy typical of the UK system isn't it.
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So it seems the same problem happens at the special schools as does in the mainstream schools (see my above post). Bl**dy typical of the UK system isn't it.
I know someone who works in a school and her son is on the spectrum. She said that the problem is, is that we have a curriculum that doesn't seem to cater for everyone. I was put in a mixed set for science and failed badly. I wanted to go ahead; but everyone else was going at a much slower speed than myself.

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