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Logicalmom
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20 Aug 2012, 5:18 pm

I had to laugh at the first one - so, I ask, what is the 'last' number of infinity? - hahaha! We can assign an arbitrary number to 'start' - and there is no reason that we can't go forward and/or backward infinitely.

Anyways, a number so big that mathematicians don't know what it starts with but they know it ends in a seven - good heavens - well, if you are giving such a number a definite value - any value - so that has to end somewhere - it will have a last number - one can argue many such numbers exist - many end in seven, and many also end in 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,8,or 9. No one has to know what the number starts with to know that if the number that is 'so big know one knows what it is or what it starts with' has a limit - that it does actually come to an end - the end has to be a number, a last number - I can just know it will end in one of the numbers - we 'all' know it will end in one of the numbers. I can correctly say some number so big exists - and I don't know what it starts with - but it ends in a 7. Such a number, I am certain, exists - so what? I am just pointing out - other 'facts' on this tumblr page are lacking.

Blah, blah, blah - anyways - these presented 'did you know' - 'facts' - are generalizations. The 'fact' about the number - the 'fact' about autism and yawning - truth? Sure - you are going to find cases where it is true and cases where it is not true - as the studies mentioned here as well as the shared personal experiences demonstrate. Anyways - if you google contagious yawning and neurological disorders or brain disease - I don't know that I would be too quick to say this 'fact' is unique to autism spectrum. It is interesting - I am just saying the 'fact' as stated on tumblr is a generalization - interesting as it may be. And, yeah - look at jtuk's post. I am sorry I got so long here - wow - is 'not being able to leave things like this alone' contagious? Well, now I have put time in it - I am going to submit my post. Sorry guys. LM



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20 Aug 2012, 5:47 pm

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My son will happily watch me yawn, but feel no urge to yawn himself. As others have mentioned, there have been various studies on this and they have observed lack of contagious yawning when seeing and hearing others yawn.


I'm not doubting you, but just out of curiosity, how old is your son? I've read that children don't start to yawn contagiously until they're about five years old. Perhaps this is another developmental delay found in Asperger's?


He's 10, will be 11 in December.



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21 Aug 2012, 4:05 am

I've yawned at least three times since opening this thread and reading this.

ps. I yawned twice more upon hitting the "submit" button. These yawns must too count!



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21 Aug 2012, 12:27 pm

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Yawning is contagious because it is related to one´s empathic capacity which is why autistic children do not find it contagious"


Wha??????

Another BS thing about empathy - NTS HAVE NOT GOT MORE EMPATHY THAN AUTISTICS!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !


I understand your anger but empathy is a nuanced term which people use to mean different things.

In this context when people say that autistic people "lack empathy" they are not trying to say that autistic people are cold and uncaring. They are using empathy to mean the ability to intuitively read other peoples emotions from things like their body language, their facial expressions, their tone of voice and, having so read those emotions, being able to intuitively understand (edit: and even to feel) just how the person is feeling at that time. It is a valid usage of the word. I don't think it is an insult or an error to say that a random aspie is likely to be less good at or might have to work harder at those things than a random nt of the same gender. The ability to do this (or not rather) is even one of the diagnostic tests for autism (reading the mind in the eyes).


So....empathy is a shorter way of saying ''ability to instinctively read body language and tone of voice''? Because if it is, it makes a little more sense, than going around thinking ''lack of empathy'' means ''lack of understanding for others'', when it is obvious that most NTs have a lack of understanding of anyone outside the norm, or even of things that they haven't experienced themselves. I once knew of 2 women who the first one had serious tragic issues in her life and the second one was there for her but it wasn't a deep friendship, but suddenly the second one experienced similar tragic issues and so became much more understanding of her friend, and they became best friends.


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21 Aug 2012, 3:35 pm

Joe90 wrote:
invisiblesilent wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
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Yawning is contagious because it is related to one´s empathic capacity which is why autistic children do not find it contagious"


Wha??????

Another BS thing about empathy - NTS HAVE NOT GOT MORE EMPATHY THAN AUTISTICS!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !


I understand your anger but empathy is a nuanced term which people use to mean different things.

In this context when people say that autistic people "lack empathy" they are not trying to say that autistic people are cold and uncaring. They are using empathy to mean the ability to intuitively read other peoples emotions from things like their body language, their facial expressions, their tone of voice and, having so read those emotions, being able to intuitively understand (edit: and even to feel) just how the person is feeling at that time. It is a valid usage of the word. I don't think it is an insult or an error to say that a random aspie is likely to be less good at or might have to work harder at those things than a random nt of the same gender. The ability to do this (or not rather) is even one of the diagnostic tests for autism (reading the mind in the eyes).


So....empathy is a shorter way of saying ''ability to instinctively read body language and tone of voice''? Because if it is, it makes a little more sense, than going around thinking ''lack of empathy'' means ''lack of understanding for others'', when it is obvious that most NTs have a lack of understanding of anyone outside the norm, or even of things that they haven't experienced themselves. I once knew of 2 women who the first one had serious tragic issues in her life and the second one was there for her but it wasn't a deep friendship, but suddenly the second one experienced similar tragic issues and so became much more understanding of her friend, and they became best friends.


Yes it is used to mean exactly what you said sometimes :) I also agree on the other part. I think it might be that NTs are more likely to react to a situation based on how it feels so for a certain kind of NT if they feel that, for example, a person with a mental problem is capable of working and is just being a layabout then no amount of explaining will counter that feeling (that's not to say that I think NTs have the monopoly on being stubborn fools - aspies can be horrible people too :p).