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25 Aug 2012, 3:55 pm

I call people with a foot in both camps (Asperger and NT) 'Bridge' people. I always used to see them as NT's with more autistic traits than normal but enough NT traits to be accepted as NT.
I seem to get on better with this type of person than most people with Aspergers but they can be a bit arrogant in that I can sense they judge my AS traits more harshly than another person with AS. They encourage you to raise your game though which is a good thing in my opinion. You aren't going to learn much from a person who is too like yourself.



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25 Aug 2012, 4:11 pm

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I think such a LF-NT could become very popular and powerful, although they probably wouldn't be great students or do well in the sciences.

No, but like I said they excel at business and politics.

In order for an autistic to be successful at business they need a hands on skill at their industry. Thus this explains Bill Gates. I can't think of any Autistics who excelled at politics. Other than the possible exceptions of Hitler or Colonel Gadaffi but I am sure that most here wouldn't want to be associated with either.


Why no? People who excel at business and politics aren't powerful and popular?



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25 Aug 2012, 5:48 pm

Your idea sounds great to me. I agree 100%. The majority of the people that I know at my university would be classified as NTs, but many do have a lot of traits that are fairly close to autism. In fact it also seem that many people on the autism spectrum have one or two different things common to autism that isn't applicable to them in particular.



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25 Aug 2012, 5:50 pm

thomas81 wrote:
I've watched NT behaviour for a while since being diagnosed ASD and its occured to me that some NT's are more 'normal' than others. Quite often I've come across NT's with ASD characteristics that are too 'normal' to be classed ASD while there are NT's without any discernable ASD traits and are masters in socialising and other abstract arts like fashion and trend following. This has led me to conclude that it is unfair to presume that the neurological spectrum should begin and end with autism, in fact it should stretch across the full range of neurological groups from what I call 'low functioning neurotypical' to 'low functioning autistic'.

Here is how i think it should look-

LF-NT----------HF-NT------------HF-ASD/AS-----------LF-ASD


I agree



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25 Aug 2012, 7:32 pm

Nonperson wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
Nonperson wrote:
I think such a LF-NT could become very popular and powerful, although they probably wouldn't be great students or do well in the sciences.

No, but like I said they excel at business and politics.

In order for an autistic to be successful at business they need a hands on skill at their industry. Thus this explains Bill Gates. I can't think of any Autistics who excelled at politics. Other than the possible exceptions of Hitler or Colonel Gadaffi but I am sure that most here wouldn't want to be associated with either.


Why no? People who excel at business and politics aren't powerful and popular?


Yes, people who are successful at business and politics usually ARE popular. At least within the remit of those who made them powerful or wealthy in the first place. There is no way a politician would succeed without the sort of populist electioneering that goes with it. On the other hand, Simon Cowell for example is unpopular but is wealthy because he does what he does well, that is communicating with and understanding what neurotypical people want.

Thats why I am saying they tend to be extreme, or as i put it, low functioning neurotypicals.



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25 Aug 2012, 7:39 pm

Oh, did you mean "no" do being successful in the sciences? Thought you meant the whole statement.



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25 Aug 2012, 7:43 pm

Nonperson wrote:
Oh, did you mean "no" do being successful in the sciences? Thought you meant the whole statement.


I think autistics who succeed at business succeed because they are able to put their tangible skills to good use. Bill Gates succeeded because he is good with programming and building computers, Temple Grandin did well because she invented the hugbox and circular cow herding system.

NT's on the other hand usually succeed because of intangible or abstract skills, such as talking, salesmanship and risk investing.