Which 'Attitude of Consciousness' fits u?

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when ur own mind rails against something so profoundly....it is often ur consciousness saying i know there is something in this...i just don't want to go there right now

some science to back up the other link: http://www2.hawaii.edu/~bemorton/Polari ... apter.html

Patriarchal/masculine.

PS- Gender Identity, while it can be influenced by the environment, is largely biological and is decided by the presence or absence (at varying levels) of androgens during specific developmental times in the foetal period while the brain is being sexually differentiated.

Sexual Identity is the identity of the body.

Gender Identity is the identity of the brain.

Sexual and Gender Identities are both biological in origin, despite that learning can also influence gender identity in some measure.

Masculine and feminine are not either/or scenarios. There is a spectrum of identity and each person has varying degrees of each. (Despite that I don't believe that's what this Jungian type distinction is implying. It's not focusing on sexual or gender identity but something more ethereal.)

For a fuller account on the biology of these identities, see The Sexual Brain by Simon LeVay.

Besides, male and female brains are different, PROVEN FACT! Of course you have to look closely to see some of the most profound differences, and that won't happen with a CT scan or MRI. ALSO, the bulk of the brain is practically identical from a structural standpoint, just like most computers have the same type of memory. That part of the brain apparently has little to do with personality, and identity.

In fact, there ARE correlations between intelligence, autism, and structure, They ALSO can't be identified very easily through the mri/ct.

ALSO, it is interesting to note that I have a mix of right/left brain qualities according to that site. And some CHANGED! I USED to be able to recall dreams VERY well, was more private, and neat! NOW I don't remember dreams that well, am less private, and less neat.

Even the matri/patripolar doesn't fit me. OH WELL.

Steve

Masculine, definitely! Because I'm a man!

there are men in either category lars

i'm a man too...but definately live like the matriarchal stuff

for instance in the below example i am very much the 1st one here over the 2nd 1...

***only thing i would say is alcohol maybe should be on the other side as it is a linear drug and therefore fits the 'dynamic and linear ' patriarchal side...then again it also makes u forget ur cares and worries..whch is dionysian..hmm


matri - highly value: world of nature, life, matter, instincts, urges; birth, death, sex; all elements and forces which weaken reason and conscious control (drugs, alcohol, sleep, dreams); all entities which are regarded as natural and emotional

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patri - highly value: all spiritual phenomena, law morality, tradition, convention; all contents capable of conscious realization; things invested with “sacred” might and right; all entities which are regarded as rational, spiritual, and ideological (political, social, and economic institutions)

Last edited by Deutha on 07 Dec 2006, 10:32 pm, edited 3 times in total.

First, my name is Jason.

Also, the only thing I know for sure about myself is that I have the trace amounts of testosterone that all men have when they hit puberty.

Other than that, I have nothing at all. I am just who you thought I was

its cool...sorry for the name error Jason ... just as Sophist said: despite that I don't believe that's what this Jungian type distinction is implying. It's not focusing on sexual or gender identity but something more ethereal.
being one of the other is more in line with ur instincts regarding consciousness and the world..how u approach life etc

I sometimes use this trace amount of testosterone when I mimic women because I am upset. For example, I'm not saying I know someone like this, but if an Australian woman named Mary upset me, and people would want me to talk like a woman, I would say, "Mary, you've really upset me!," accent and all. This is one of the juvenile things about me and how I react when I am upset.

reading thru ur thoughts in this thread....you sound fairly patriarchal to moi if i had to guestimate?

this isn't about the differences in men's/women's brains as both men/women are in both types..tis more about whats been mentioned in the above posts concerning how u live life etc..the way u interact with the world

this importance u place on the emotional side of things would lead me to guestimate matri for u

tis important to note...no side is better than the other...and as the earth kicks along...it seems we have been oscillating back and forward between the 2 for prolly 100000 years.... possibly acceptance and understanding of both sides would lead to the best outcome?

cos i hear a lot of women are all such n such on these forums and men are all this n that.....when people could be missing some key elements of peoples behaviour regardless of gender/sex etc

I voted "patriarch," but it's too late to change my vote!

cool u prolly are....was just playing guestimater....which is naughty....but i can't help myself sometimes

thanku for voting!!

You're welcome!

I am very literal!

I understand that! EVERYTHING is equal, except for 3-4 that show MASCULINE! So that is what I put. If it helps, they just eeeked them out a little. If they hadn't, I would have shown up in the middle.

Steve

>>>I understand that! EVERYTHING is equal, except for 3-4 that show MASCULINE! So that is what I put. If it helps, they just eeeked them out a little. If they hadn't, I would have shown up in the middle.

yup...on further thought im having reconsiderations i think infact i exhibit stuff on both sides too to a degree...creating another option for mixed(edit..nope im not..can't create another option eheh)...still think overall i reside on the matri side..but it could def be a spectrum thing with aspies..

infact if my original senario2 is what creates aspies....the mat+pat parental mix...then it would be logical for aspies to exhibit both sides to some extent....probably favouring one over the other....but still having atleast understanding or more understanding than NT's for both sides.....

maybe this is part of the 'wrongplanet' issue....that we don't fit into one of them neatly?

maybe thats why some feel a bit androgynous etc too?