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28 Sep 2012, 1:44 pm

@beneficii
How do you 'apply the stopper'?
Is there some sort of trick to this?



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28 Sep 2012, 3:14 pm

Braman wrote:
@beneficii
How do you 'apply the stopper'?
Is there some sort of trick to this?


I stay very aware for signs that communicating with the person, outside of a close relative, is becoming difficult. If I find the person fails to respond to my emails or phone calls three out of four times, then I assume they don't want to be friends, and back off until the person initiates further interaction. Needless to say, I find most do not initiate further interaction.



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28 Sep 2012, 3:44 pm

beneficii wrote:
Braman wrote:
@beneficii
How do you 'apply the stopper'?
Is there some sort of trick to this?


I stay very aware for signs that communicating with the person, outside of a close relative, is becoming difficult. If I find the person fails to respond to my emails or phone calls three out of four times, then I assume they don't want to be friends, and back off until the person initiates further interaction. Needless to say, I find most do not initiate further interaction.


It's doable with most randoms but it gets very tricky when the person is highly important or has something needed. Particularly when a special interest is involved. Communicating with people in general is difficult for an AS person. It is quite unfair for someone to take something then refuse to talk when the only avenue to get said something taken is through that person.



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08 Oct 2012, 10:22 pm

shameless bump. Does anyone care that this happened? How do people feel about this happening?



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08 Oct 2012, 11:57 pm

Right now, as I'm reading your posts, my 16 year old son is talking up a storm with his "friends" on WoW. He plays often even though he stopped playing for about a year because things went very wrong with his friendships on the game. He starts out OK but after a couple of days on Skype he just loses it. It's TMI, or it's weird sexual comments that he thinks are jokes. But mostly he gets obsessed with certain friends. If they aren't on the game when he is, his anxiety gets bad. He starts yelling at them, pestering them about why they weren't on. Then they "disappear" or avoid him. So sad really. He cannot respect boundaries. He pushes the friends away.

So I totally understand how someone can take advantage of a person like him.



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09 Oct 2012, 12:39 am

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This wouldn't happen to be your own personal experience, would it?



Braman pretty much described my marriage. :cry:



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09 Oct 2012, 1:38 pm

This is why I don;t talk to people on WoW. The only people I talk to are my husband and his immediate band of friends, all of whom I know in real life and know that if they did something like that to me he would kick their a***s. The first time I ever logged in to WoW, my husband set it up for me and then left me there to play, and this one character followed me around for 10 minutes saying obscene stuff, threatening me, saying he knew where I lived and was going to come rape me and stuff. After he didn't answer when I asked if he was ret*d or something, I ignored him until my husband came back and showed me how to block him. All I can say is bipolar kids or random idiots, people just suck.



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09 Oct 2012, 1:43 pm

I just wanted to say that this person's actions probably have nothing to do with being bipolar. I am bipolar, and I would never do something like that, even while manic. Blame her actions on being a pr*ck, not being bipolar.



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09 Oct 2012, 2:19 pm

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He was someone special in this game. Very high ranked, rich, the leader of a guild... Even had a 'world first'.

This is just my opinion and I may take some hate for this but Aspergers is like a double edged sword. It is both an advantage and a disability at the same time. The duality of it is what makes it different from other 'disabilities' which are strictly negative. I hope this can be agreed upon or at least take the heat off me calling it simply a disability.

and to answer the popular question: How does OCD get someone banned?

Here's where I'll elaborate for you some:

What the bipolar friend would do is start a discussion or argument outside the game (skype, phone, im, etc) and then abruptly end it leaving the helpless aspergers person fixated and obsessed over what was so abruptly ended. The aspergers person is then forced to message the person in the game to continue the conversation or discussion or worst of all 'problem solving'. Where the aspergers person becomes so obsessed with the situation at hand that it absolutely must be resolved or more must be known often leading to a lot of 'why' questions because something is so very misunderstood and wrong. "Why is this happening? Why act like this? Weren't things okay a second ago? Did I do something wrong? Please tell me what's going on? etc"
The above was just the hook. Then in game the bipolar friend would go on to ignore the aspergers person repeatedly and report them for harassment. In reality, it was the bipolar person exploiting a known weakness of the aspergers person (and she couldn't help it either when her rage takes over). She would be able to do this without fail 100% of the time if she ever got mad at the aspergers person. He would get banned for 'harassing' her when it was actually the opposite going on - he was the victim of her manipulation.

I'm willing to elaborate more on anything so people understand what's happening.


I know that one. I have experienced that type of behaviour, too (Getting falsely trapped into some problem by purpose). Just in a totally different context. And of course nobody would directly know about my aspergers. But that is how you can really drive nuts aspies.
Great that the friend apologized though. That didn't happen to me. And he knows what happened.
It could have easily gone like that that he would have stayed with the blame and still might even feel guilty.

Now there is this other problem, that he got the lawyers after him. But what the hell do they want? If a lawyer contacts you he'll have to present a reason.



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09 Oct 2012, 2:35 pm

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If he was breaking the rules, AS is not an excuse.

However the other player should have been banned to.


I don't like that idea. What is wrong about asking somebody for what is going on when he was talking to you in the phone before?
That is perfectly normal. And that you feel bad is also normal.
The only bad thing I can spot here is this abusive manipulative behaviour.

I guess that that girl didn't even tell him that she didn't want to talk to him to make him feel even more distressed.

It is probably very popular to report people for harassment where there hasn't been any.
Though the other way around that harassment is not reported is I think more common.



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09 Oct 2012, 3:15 pm

Just realised that I am OCD:ish, too.

Good to know. Thx for the input.

Once again the experience that wikipedia articles don't really describe the problems from the "aspie" right perspective.
Went through them before but it didn't cause any feelings that I'd have that one.
They'd just describe the typical symptoms on which you can't identify yourself.

Pretty bad to be triggered into it on purpose. That'll feel extra bad. I know too well.

Before I found it to be a result of my natural workaround strategy that fails when I can't figure out things.



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09 Oct 2012, 3:39 pm

thewhitrbbit wrote:
If he was breaking the rules, AS is not an excuse.

THIS!



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09 Oct 2012, 4:50 pm

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It's just a game. I mean, I got bored with it after only six months, I've never understood how people got addicted to it. I mean, you just feel like another schmoe, just like in real life, because EVERYBODY is an adventurer in azeroth, so it isn't anything special. I hope his social life improves as a result.


I could not play wow for more than 10 minutes.

I want to know how OCD gets u banned as well.

I do not think asperger is ever an excuse to get away with things that are wrong.



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10 Oct 2012, 3:12 am

If it weren't for bipolar people, aspies would have no friends.



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10 Oct 2012, 3:38 am

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If it weren't for bipolar people, aspies would have no friends.


I seem to be a magnet for bipolar woman.



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11 Oct 2012, 5:15 pm

onks wrote:
Braman wrote:
He was someone special in this game. Very high ranked, rich, the leader of a guild... Even had a 'world first'.

This is just my opinion and I may take some hate for this but Aspergers is like a double edged sword. It is both an advantage and a disability at the same time. The duality of it is what makes it different from other 'disabilities' which are strictly negative. I hope this can be agreed upon or at least take the heat off me calling it simply a disability.

and to answer the popular question: How does OCD get someone banned?

Here's where I'll elaborate for you some:

What the bipolar friend would do is start a discussion or argument outside the game (skype, phone, im, etc) and then abruptly end it leaving the helpless aspergers person fixated and obsessed over what was so abruptly ended. The aspergers person is then forced to message the person in the game to continue the conversation or discussion or worst of all 'problem solving'. Where the aspergers person becomes so obsessed with the situation at hand that it absolutely must be resolved or more must be known often leading to a lot of 'why' questions because something is so very misunderstood and wrong. "Why is this happening? Why act like this? Weren't things okay a second ago? Did I do something wrong? Please tell me what's going on? etc"
The above was just the hook. Then in game the bipolar friend would go on to ignore the aspergers person repeatedly and report them for harassment. In reality, it was the bipolar person exploiting a known weakness of the aspergers person (and she couldn't help it either when her rage takes over). She would be able to do this without fail 100% of the time if she ever got mad at the aspergers person. He would get banned for 'harassing' her when it was actually the opposite going on - he was the victim of her manipulation.

I'm willing to elaborate more on anything so people understand what's happening.


I know that one. I have experienced that type of behaviour, too (Getting falsely trapped into some problem by purpose). Just in a totally different context. And of course nobody would directly know about my aspergers. But that is how you can really drive nuts aspies.
Great that the friend apologized though. That didn't happen to me. And he knows what happened.
It could have easily gone like that that he would have stayed with the blame and still might even feel guilty.

Now there is this other problem, that he got the lawyers after him. But what the hell do they want? If a lawyer contacts you he'll have to present a reason.


The lawyers want him to stop contacting Blizzard and asking for his account back which he believes was unfairly banned. He would contact them every day for a year, multiple times a day, trying to explain the situation and insisting how he was not wrong or was forced into the situation or about his aspergers or about the bipolar girl or about how he cannot understand why blizzard/this lawyer refuse to see things his way etc. He tried stopping calling them for a week or a month at a time at some points but it made no difference. This only made him more angry. He believes that in order for justice to be done, he has to do something about it. He was also hoping he could get support from somewhere as doing it alone doesn't do enough.

He feels he was horribly mistreated by Blizzard with the consideration of his Aspergers and how it was force triggered as it was to concoct this scenario.