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14 Dec 2006, 1:01 pm

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I get that. I can have a few months where I'm going fine, acting for the outside world as if I am NT. Then I will burn out and go hyper-Aspie. Anxiety, weird behaviour, avoiding socialising - and all of it in overdrive.

I'm in a' burn out' now, and I think this ones been enough for me to fail University.


Pretty much where i'm at, had some Real Life issues to deal with and feel pretty similar dude.


Well I'm going to the Doctors, hoping he'll be able to come up with enough to save my degree.


Question is, are these crashes part of the Aspergers or due to depression connected to it? I'm suspecting the latter.



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14 Dec 2006, 1:17 pm

The level of my autistic traits waxes and wanes depending on my level of life anxiety. The worse the anxiety, the more autistic, and vice versa.


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14 Dec 2006, 1:19 pm

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The level of my autistic traits waxes and wanes depending on my level of life anxiety. The worse the anxiety, the more autistic, and vice versa.


See I dont get why we refer to it as autistic - ok its all part of the same spectrum - but Aspergers is utterly different to austism in practice, isn't it?



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14 Dec 2006, 1:31 pm

celtic1985 wrote:
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The level of my autistic traits waxes and wanes depending on my level of life anxiety. The worse the anxiety, the more autistic, and vice versa.


See I dont get why we refer to it as autistic - ok its all part of the same spectrum - but Aspergers is utterly different to austism in practice, isn't it?


HFA and Aspergers often occur in the same families. What differences there are are likely more a degree of severity. Even the more classic IQ profiles they associate with AS vs. HFA could be easily explained because the childhoods and therefore adaptive cognitions are different. For a person who doesn't get language until later, they are going to have begun depending and refining different skills than someone who has better language ability.

I could explain this to you in terms of brain anatomy which is coming to light, if you like, to show how severity can play a large part in presenting different profiles while still have similar underlying genetic similarities?


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14 Dec 2006, 1:37 pm

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HFA and Aspergers often occur in the same families. What differences there are are likely more a degree of severity. Even the more classic IQ profiles they associate with AS vs. HFA could be easily explained because the childhoods and therefore adaptive cognitions are different. For a person who doesn't get language until later, they are going to have begun depending and refining different skills than someone who has better language ability.

I could explain this to you in terms of brain anatomy which is coming to light, if you like, to show how severity can play a large part in presenting different profiles while still have similar underlying genetic similarities?


I don't think I'll keep up with you if you start with the brain anatomy - unfortunately I've never obsessed much about biology so my knowledge is limited. :wink:

It just seems that Autistic and Aspies, in practice, are thoroughly different.



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14 Dec 2006, 1:58 pm

celtic1985 wrote:
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HFA and Aspergers often occur in the same families. What differences there are are likely more a degree of severity. Even the more classic IQ profiles they associate with AS vs. HFA could be easily explained because the childhoods and therefore adaptive cognitions are different. For a person who doesn't get language until later, they are going to have begun depending and refining different skills than someone who has better language ability.

I could explain this to you in terms of brain anatomy which is coming to light, if you like, to show how severity can play a large part in presenting different profiles while still have similar underlying genetic similarities?


I don't think I'll keep up with you if you start with the brain anatomy - unfortunately I've never obsessed much about biology so my knowledge is limited. :wink:

It just seems that Autistic and Aspies, in practice, are thoroughly different.


On the surface, we can be. But underlying mechanisms, according to more recent research, seem to be quite similar, only different in the level of severity. Even the slightest of neural differences can creat great change in personality.


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14 Dec 2006, 2:04 pm

HEY, I wouldn't mind your explaining how you view autistic development. I haven't OBSESSED with it, but I know an AWFUL lot about it!

I've been trying to refer to autism only when they were traits common to autism. And Sophist is obviously right. HECK, I figured I had aspergers because of the AUTISTIC symptoms! It was like having a puzzle with several pieces changed slightly. It was OBVIOUSLY the same basic picture, but there was a problem. The AS diagnoses changed those pieces, and it was the exact same picture. Take away the autistic pieces, and I might look elsewhere. I originally thought I was simply a wierd(Different physical tolerances, likes/dislikes, etc...), unfortunate(weak in some areas, including social), gifted person. To this day, my father feels that way. AS, with the autistic basis taken away, explains some of the unfortunate stuff, and gifted. Add the autistic, and it even answers questions I never even asked, like why I rock sometimes, etc...!

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14 Dec 2006, 2:47 pm

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On the surface, we can be. But underlying mechanisms, according to more recent research, seem to be quite similar, only different in the level of severity. Even the slightest of neural differences can creat great change in personality.


Well thats true I guess.