What happens to people with AS once the DSM-V comes out?

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06 Nov 2012, 7:51 am

When AS is removed, my diagnosis would best be described as "NVLD with SPD." But, oh, wait- neither of those are in the DSM-5, either... :thumbdown:


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06 Nov 2012, 7:54 am

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06 Nov 2012, 11:36 am

@aspi-rant: Ok, I take it's a reaction to my latest statement. I think achieving a "normal" life (as described above) without significant help implies no significant help during one's whole life, from infancy to adulthood. If someone can do it (I think it's rare, there's always some kind of intervention, but might happen), he/she is not on the spectrum, even if there's an early diagnosis (criterion "D" was probably not met, it can be subjective and only justified in retrospect).


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06 Nov 2012, 11:41 am

From what I've heard, those diagnosed with the "Asperger's Syndrome" label will instead have the "Autism Spectrum Disorder {insert number}" label. I don't really see why people are making such a big deal out of it. If anything, it will be a good thing, as the last thing a minority group needs is many different categories within it.

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You know this, reminds me of something else about this I do not like: Calling it a "disorder."


It IS a disorder. And for the vast majority of people on the spectrum, they ARE disabled in one way or another. Only the extremely mild might be able to get by with "quirkiness" or "I have a 'difference'". The rest of us are disabled to some extent, whether we want to admit that or not. All of the characteristics of an ASD scream "disability". People misunderstand the word, but it is really quite simple. People on the spectrum have a DIS-ability in understand social relationships, social cues, certain forms of communication, etc. This disability makes it perfectly reasonable to call ASD a disorder.


I understand your point, but I still disagree. "Disorder" is an inherently negative world, and to use it only perpetuates the negative views that society hold over us.

I think that "disorder" is an inappropriate description because it implies that Autism only has bad aspects, whereas, it also encompasses good aspects.

"Condition" seems like a more appropriate description to me, as it doesn't necessarily imply that Autism is positive or negative. I recently received a letter from the Scottish government concerning some Autism research I'll be taking part in, and the term "ASC" was used. It may not be as immediately catchy as "ASD", but it's much more appropriate.


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06 Nov 2012, 7:35 pm

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Being on the spectrum means you have a dis-ability. All the people who claim they are ONLY different (ASD-wise) AND they can live a normal life (have a job, family, kids, can provide for themselves and others too) WITHOUT significant help are considered Broader Autism Phenotype by definition. Not even a former dx counts in this respect.


OK, firstly, I consider it a disability, but not a disorder.

Disability, in my usage, doesn't mean 'something wrong with you'. It means a mismatch between your abilities and what society expects people to be capable of, which causes significant difficulty or a need for accomodations most people don't get/need.

I don't think it's a bad thing to be autistic. The way my brain is wired is no better or worse than anyone else, it just is. But I live in a society made by NTs for NTs, and as a result, I have trouble functioning.

Secondly, the 'functional impairment' thing is screwy. What if you used to have significant impairment and now don't, not because you changed but because your environment changed? For example, many high functioning autistics function better in university than high school, not because of any change in themselves, but because university is a more autistic-friendly environment (encourages obsessive interests, culture more accepting of quirkiness, more freedom to adapt your education to your learning style, etc).



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07 Nov 2012, 10:45 am

This again. People keep missing the point that you have to take yourself back in to be reassessed under the new diagnostic criteria to be "undiagnosed" or whatever. Besides, I call myself autistic anyway, Asperger's is on the spectrum, it shouldn't have been so differentiated and "highlighted" in the first place. imo.