Has anybody gotten in trouble for pointing out the truth.
Do you know what bothers me is when people challenge what I say but they have no interest in backing up their claims with factual information. I have no problem with new information provided they take the time and interest in making an effort to verify their counter claims. Why spew uncorroborated anecdotes at me? Why aren't they interested in learning?
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All the time; I naturally speak very succinctly outside of jokes.
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Yes, in a previous job I had, I constantly gave "fair warning" before technical issues arose in order that we could prevent them or be able to handle them better. Previous managers loved this, but the new guy hated being told this truth before, and when the problems happened, didn't care that they affected our clients. Because of this, I was considered to be "disruptive" and "not getting along" with him and one of his buddies he brought in and I was eventually removed. To say it infuriated me that I was basically fired for doing a good job and trying to make our clients first, while the #1 priority for him was to pretend everything was "ok" and that no one's feathers were ruffled, is an understatement.
I was railroaded out of my first job after 7 years and I now realize that it wasn't because I was lazy or suddenly making mistakes: I just started speaking too much truth. I pointed out how inefficient the supply chain was (being the most highly educated person there) and how redundant certain higher up jobs were. Shortly after making that statement, I was literally getting written up daily. I also made several suggestions that were laughed at, only to be amazingly thought up by the same 'redundant' people in the organization. How ironic!
I have that happen all the time, especially by young males. I'm frequently called out and challenged and when I try to ask for proof, they just walk away convinced they already won the argument or get angry when I counter their unfounded and ridiculous claims. I was puzzled by this behavior until my GF pointed out that it's because I intimidate Alphas because I don't need to show off and I probably make them very insecure.
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I was once kicked out of a church during communion...I asked if Jesus wanted us to be cannibals (bread for the body, wine for his blood.)
On my way out I yelled "Jesus wants me inside him, I thought he hated gays!"
Good times.
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I took my kids to church to try to give them some kind of community. My youngest, AS, was brilliant. The kids were called to the stage at Thanksgiving to say what they were thankful for. I think they must have been coached because they gave all these saccharine answers that made the audience happy. There was a big hush when my boy stood up and said: I'm thankful that it's almost Halloween and I'm gonna get a whole bunch of candy. Honesty :0).
Another time, and he was just six years old, he told the congregation about the origins of the planet - and particularly about Gondwana land and continental drift. For a nice touch, he elaborated on a theory of alien colonization provided by his aunt and which had him intrigued. It was a United church which can have a more "open" stance and we were not run out with torches and pitchforks. What mattered and what I am proud off is that he spoke his own mind and did so so eloquently for someone his age.
I used to always be kicked out of everywhere for uttering truths that everyone knew but no one said outloud and everyone pretended not to know. Till the day I discovered you're not supposed to tell inconvenient truths, because people prefer sugar lies. Someone told me the below, so I think telling them ugly truths is a great way to destroy those who try to destroy me just for being "different".
People lie for many reasons:
1. to protect the fantasy they've built about life
2. to convince their own selves
3. to project a certain image
4. to make others believe the things they want them to believe, to manipulate, gain power, control
5. to be considered polite
6. to avoid conflict
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I think I recently pissed off my boss when I pointed out that it is mathematically impossible to maximize more than one variable at the same time... (you'd think that people would have picked up on that 68 years after von Neumann & Morgenstern and 44 years after Hardin).
Pretty much challenged his entire world-view... and that of his boss... and that of *his* boss... and that of *her* boss...
I've gotten into trouble for speaking my mind. If two things are contradictory, one cannot believe both at the same time. I used to point to such contradictions in theology and the bible to people in a bible study I once attended. I often reduced the group to silence with my observations. Even the "leader" of the study had no answers, probably because he is a moron. Church was often a terrible experience for me because it made so little sense and was so dull.
I'm much happier and liberated without church and its stifling dogma. There was supposed to be such freedom in Jesus, but it was just BS. Christianity is full of rules, mostly "thou shalt nots". I told people this, also, which was not appreciated. I'm shunned by my former church which is just fine with me.
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I'm much happier and liberated without church and its stifling dogma. There was supposed to be such freedom in Jesus, but it was just BS. Christianity is full of rules, mostly "thou shalt nots". I told people this, also, which was not appreciated. I'm shunned by my former church which is just fine with me.
I endorse that view of religion.
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I recently used my expertise in radio communications to correct some misconceptions and explain how things actually work. In response, I get nasty-grams from several members of the audience who resented that I seemed to "purposely enjoy taking jabs" at them.
The funny thing is that each one of them thought that my lecture was directed solely at him or her alone!
Even funnier was that my lecture was based on over 100 years worth of science in the field of radio communications, and I was the only one in the room who has training, degrees, and licenses in radio communications, and yet those people who complained barely knew how to change the batteries in their iPhones!
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I'm much happier and liberated without church and its stifling dogma. There was supposed to be such freedom in Jesus, but it was just BS. Christianity is full of rules, mostly "thou shalt nots". I told people this, also, which was not appreciated. I'm shunned by my former church which is just fine with me.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience with christians, it seems to be a growing issue these days. All I can say is, the Bible is confusing to those who don't understand that depending on where you read in the bible, the rules for society and such were different, for instance the old testament happened years (hundreds actually) before the new testament, so they had different rules, and that's why the bible seems contradictory to itself at times. Not alot of religious leaders these days know enough about the bible to teach it properly, and some use it to their own advantage, sadly. But regardless of who misuses it, it still holds true words and lessons that can be learned.
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